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The Future of SRC
I don't mind linking books and authors or even book covers, but I sometimes read editions of older books that I can't find in GR--and no ISBNs to track them down so I just list Title, authors, pub date, and number of pages. I would hate for those books to not count because there is no link.
Donna Jo wrote: "I don't mind linking books and authors or even book covers, but I sometimes read editions of older books that I can't find in GR--and no ISBNs to track them down so I just list Title, authors, pub ..."It seems to me you could link to the edition on here, and put a note on your post saying that the edition you read was not available on GR.
Donna Jo, I've found some things on Amazon that aren't on Goodreads. I'm sure they would accept a link to the Amazon page - a little extra work for you though. And I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule - my personal beef is just when there are no links, period. No explanation either.
I can understand disliking no links, but what if the book is out of print? For the winter challenge I read one of my great-grandmother's books, which hasn't been in print for quite some time. It don't know how often something like that will come up, but it would be a shame if out-of-print books with no GR or Amazon entries to be excluded outright.
I said there'd probably be exceptions. But it would require someone explaining in their post, "Hey, this is out-of-print, there isn't a link for this one." That's just common courtesy, and personally I think that's what the link issue really comes down to - common courtesy both to the moderator and other participants who are looking for interesting new books to read. If there's no link available, a simple explanation as to why would probably be sufficient. What I would like to see avoided is people not linking just because they plain don't want to or don't care to learn how.
Ms Anderson wrote: "I can understand disliking no links, but what if the book is out of print? For the winter challenge I read one of my great-grandmother's books, which hasn't been in print for quite some time. It do..."A brief note stating that fact should suffice. There are always exceptions to every rule.
I'd prefer to keep the current rule: either a link OR both title & authorLinks are easier for the moderators and should be encouraged, but not required.
if a book is out of print, you can also contact a GR Librarian (i'm in) or apply to be one (you have to have at least 50 books on your shelves) and then you can add books...you can also edit metadata on books if its wrong, add covers and the like
I'd prefer to keep the current rule: either a link OR both title & author PJ, I give you a "totally agree" on this:)
This has nothing to do with the rules or anything, but I will say that I personally appreciate it when people list both title and author, and link to the title. I get so many book ideas from the completed tasks thread, and it helps me out! So, for those of you who do that, THANK YOU :)
AshleyFL wrote: "This has nothing to do with the rules or anything, but I will say that I personally appreciate it when people list both title and author, and link to the title. I get so many book ideas from the c..."Totally agree with You
I completely agree with El, I think it is common courtesy to the moderators to make their job as easy as possible. They are doing so much for us as is, why not make their job a bit easier?
Aleksandra wrote: "AshleyFL wrote: "This has nothing to do with the rules or anything, but I will say that I personally appreciate it when people list both title and author, and link to the title. I get so many book..."That's what I usually do. I only link to the author if I'm claiming a Goodreads Author ticket in the belief that makes the moderator's job easier.
Deedee wrote: "Aleksandra wrote: "AshleyFL wrote: "This has ...I only link to the author if I'm claiming a Goodreads Author ticket in the belief that makes the moderator's job easier."
Yes it does!
Sara Grace wrote: "Can I ask a slightly off topic question here? I don't want be annoying, but I don't think it will take a long time to answer. What makes an author a "Goodreads author"? I haven't read not one all c..."There's a list:
http://www.goodreads.com/author/on_goodreads
Mostly I find them by a link in the Completed Tasks thread or I stumble on them looking for a book.
Looking at the books on your shelves, GR Authors have an asterisk by their name.
As mentioned above, there's a note when you look at the author or book page.
Sara Grace, there are some authors (like Neil Gaiman) who actually have a Goodreads profile and updates his page just like the rest of us "little people". :)I don't usually search out Goodreads authors myself, but I might read something by someone who turns out to be on Goodreads. I'm sure there's a list somewhere too, but I suck at that sort of thing.
Man - I have been forgetting all about including whether the author is a GR author or not. I definitely have to get better organized!
Sara Grace wrote: "Nope, I'm wrong. It's free.Oh dear and Neil Gaiman is a Goodreads author! I have been so lost. :-)"
Amazing Grace
How many books I found
to thrill a reader like me
I once was lost
but now am found
was bored
but now I READ
Sorry, I couldn't resist......it popped in my mind and I had to post it.
Beth NC(US) wrote: "Sara Grace wrote: "Nope, I'm wrong. It's free.Oh dear and Neil Gaiman is a Goodreads author! I have been so lost. :-)"
Amazing Grace
How many books I found
to thrill a reader like me
I on..."
SNERK! This is wonderful!
One other idea (although I have only read through half of these posts, but I got to run - so not sure if it was said already) is to eliminate all the extra things in a task, like having to give a book away or volunteer or play a game or post a review or post a certain comment or a non-reading thing that is in addition to the book(s) you have to read. That often (in my experience) is the problem with not posting correctly and that might save the mods from having to get people to fix their posts. Just a thought. I see it was changed to ask task designers to possibly make those optional, but maybe that could be firm. No worries either way, but I completely understand how there is just more and more for the mods to keep track of and maybe we could simplify it for them.
Julie wrote: "One other idea (although I have only read through half of these posts, but I got to run - so not sure if it was said already) is to eliminate all the extra things in a task, like having to give a b..."I think getting extra points if you do the optional extras would be a good option.
Beth NC(US) wrote: "Julie wrote: "One other idea (although I have only read through half of these posts, but I got to run - so not sure if it was said already) is to eliminate all the extra things in a task, like havi..."right now extra points sounds like a nightmare ... maybe after we have 4 moderators for a while we can see if that will work
When are we expecting the move of the group/new fall tasks posted/etc to happen? I'm assuming it would be in the next week or so?
Christine wrote: "When are we expecting the move of the group/new fall tasks posted/etc to happen? I'm assuming it would be in the next week or so?"Sandy's planning the poll for the new group name for Sunday. Whatever name a group is created under is the group name (can't edit it). I'm hoping to get the new group set up to the point that we can do the Group Reads polls there by the end of next week (barring more surprises).
The 5/10/15 point tasks for the new challenge are usually posted about 2 weeks before the challenge starts. That's what we're aiming for.
You guys and everyone that is helping you are phenomenal.
Pj that's great thank you. Have you got the extra people that are needed for the new group moderator wise? If there is any job that you need filled maybe just posting them on here may be a good idea as some people may be happy to volunteer for specific jobs rather than say they'll be moderator as that can sound scary! Just a thought and of course if you've got the people you need it's a redundant thought!I like the rule that you either have to post the books author AND title OR add link to the book. If you are claiming it as a GR Author link to author must be included.
Maybe getting rid of the extra requirements for tasks may be a good idea just for the next challenge. That way it will ease the 4 moderators into it and see how you all get on. Then if it's felt that extra requirements could be added they can be for the Winter Challenge.
Has Sandy been able to sort out creating a poll within this group for the new one? I hope so as it will make it easier to choose the new name otherwise I guess you could on the amount of times one is backed in the Rename thread.
Are there only going to be ten 25 point tasks and then if more people finish be 30 point tasks or are there going to be just sets of ten 25 point tasks? I'm sorry if that is already mentioned in the rules and I've missed it. Don't want to check back now as will lose this post doing so!
Thanks PJ and Sandy (and anyone else who may be now working behind the scenes) I think you realise by now that we all want the challenges to continue so appreciate all your work!
Alice x
Alice wrote: "Pj that's great thank you. Have you got the extra people that are needed for the new group moderator wise? If there is any job that you need filled maybe just posting them on here may be a good ide..."Hi Alice...In post 159 PJ put all the new rules. From my understanding the 1st 5 people who complete the challenge will have the 30 point task after that anyone else who completes the challenge will get a 25 point task so if only 6 people complete a challenge there will be only one 25 point task. (Somebody please correct me if I am wrong). But if 20 people complete the challenge there will be 15 25 point tasks.
Hi Megan,Yes I just read over the rules and I saw that the task points were confirmed in there. Thanks though!
I wondered if rule 18 could just be tweaked a bit to say: That a person can choose another person to create their task. I think that saying that a person can pass their task to someone else isn't quite clear if you have never done the challenge before. It may confuse you!
Alice
GR STAFF JUST ADDED ME AS A CO-MODERATOR!!!
pjreads wrote: "GR STAFF JUST ADDED ME AS A CO-MODERATOR!!!"Oh, yay!!!
pjreads wrote: "GR STAFF JUST ADDED ME AS A CO-MODERATOR!!!"Which means you can add Sandy and anyone else and . . .
It's about time the GR staff woke up and made pjreads and Sandy moderators. Congratulations - this should make things a whole lot easier for everyone.
Heather KS wrote: "Could you set up a poll to see how many people want the tasks to end 2 weeks early? I love the full 3 months and there are tasks posted at the beginning that can be started on before all the 20, 2..."Honestly, every challenge has me reading one book right up until 10:00 pm of the last night, and ironically they are always the most challenging books of the challenge
pjreads wrote: "GR STAFF JUST ADDED ME AS A CO-MODERATOR!!!"Whew! That's awesome.
Kristi (Passion for the Page) wrote: "pjreads wrote: "GR STAFF JUST ADDED ME AS A CO-MODERATOR!!!"Whew! That's awesome."
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!
YAY!!!! That is awesome I am so glad that they are not making you and Sandy go through all the work of making a whole new group.
so we don't have to switch groups?
Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "so we don't have to switch groups?"My question, too!!!! Pjreads...that's awesome!
Heather in KS
Yay! *dances* The challenge will go on! ^_^
Brilliant. From our previous conversations we still need more moderators. Is it likely for GR to add more?
Hooray, hooray! :DCongrats for persisting pj and thanks again to everyone who is helping! Wonderful news :)
pjreads wrote: "GR STAFF JUST ADDED ME AS A CO-MODERATOR!!!"Woo hoo!!!!! Great news!!!!!
The Seasonal Reading Challenge
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