We'll Always Have Summer
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who should Belly end up with?
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Feb 10, 2011 01:28AM
I agree that she'll love Jeremiah but not the "soul-mate" kind. She will always have that special place in her heart for Conrad however I can't picture them getting back together because not only would it hurt Jeremiah but the whole dating your ex's brother seems almost incestual (yes, I do know the literal meaning of the word but just saying). In the end, I think she will not choose either of them. Maybe Cam Cameron rides in on his white horse...
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hello! you're all crazy! Yeah, Conrad loves Belly, but he doesn't do anything about it- he only hurts her, and he doesn't even tell her why!!! Jeremiah is per-fect for Belly. He's evrything she needs!!!!!!!
So far that's all Conrad has done..but if you read the description for the book, it looks like he's going to change. Lol @ Cam. I didn't really like him but I think it would be funny if it were someone else altogether that she ends up with.Also did anyone ever think that maybe that 'white dress-rain scene-picture forever' scene isn't at the end? Now that I think about it, it could be in the middle of the book and she could swap up with another brother at the very end...remember the first book, the ending chapter turned out to be in the beginning of the second book.
Just a thought :)
OK, here's what's gonna happen:She'll end up with Conrad. Jeremiah will show his true colours (that he's a lying, cheating little scum bag), and Conrad will finally wake up to himself and tell Belly how he's always loved her and that he wants them to be together forever.
I refuse to even think about her ending up with Cam!!!! There's just no chemistry there..........
Jeremiah was NEVER Belly's first choice. And they all know it. She only ended up with him because Conrad rejected her. Belly can tell herself that she's over Conrad until she's blue in the face but she knows it's not true. Conrad and Belly are meant to be together! And of they don't end up together I'm not going to be happy!!!
I find it hard to believe Jeremiah would do something to hurt belly, he's always looking out for her.....maybe he does it drunk....btw, if there's a part in Conrad's p.o.v., then we'll get to see what he's thinking when he's a jerk to her and why!
Abigail wrote: "I find it hard to believe Jeremiah would do something to hurt belly, he's always looking out for her.....maybe he does it drunk....btw, if there's a part in Conrad's p.o.v., then we'll get to see ..."
IKR! I was just thinking the same thing too!!! Thats something to look forward to if Jenny writes it in his pov. Whats going through his head when he's being such an ass!! It'd be sweet if we get a flashback to when Belly's making out with Jeremiah in Its not summer without you and Conrad walks up and sees them and we get to see his thoughts on that! But yeah its hard to think Jere does something so awful. Its like he's always there for her and maybe he DOES do it drunk! But its gotta be cheating though. Thats the worst thing a boy can make while in a relationship!
i don't think there's any valid reason for why Conrad could be so disgusting to her when he loves her!Healani, Belly has a special place in her heart for Conrad, but it's just a crush. I think the point of the whole thing will be that sometimes, u have to get over ur childhood crush and realize your real soul mate (ie Jeremiah) was right there all along!!!!!!!!!!!
Abigail, I don't agree that Belly's feeling for Conrad is a mere crush. It probably started as one but it endured seven years. And as much as I love Jeremiah, I don't believe he is her soul mate either. Belly loves Jeremiah, but not the soul mate kind. He was a safe choice at the time (ie rebound love). I hate to say this but I predict in book three we will finally have Conrad's point of view and it will redeem him for all of his "jerk" behavior. It would be too weird tho if she ends up with the brother of her ex.
Also, the summary for book three on Jenny Han's site say that Belly's relationship with Jeremiah "hasn't exactly been the happily ever after Belly had hoped it would be". Doesn't sound too soul matey.
Healani wrote: "Abigail, I don't agree that Belly's feeling for Conrad is a mere crush. It probably started as one but it endured seven years. And as much as I love Jeremiah, I don't believe he is her soul mate ..."I beg to differ. Look at Peyton and Lucas and One Tree Hill. Peyton had been in an off/on again relationship with Nathan in the begining of the series and in the end she married the brother of her ex!!! But yeah I do think we'll finally get a look in Conrad's head and see what goes on in that mind of his. See why he is the way he is and find out why the hell he won't admit that he's in love with Belly. (Cough*excuse my language*cough)
AMEN to that, Healani! Besides, conrad isn't Belly's "ex" really, cuz they hardly dated! it was a one-sided relationship...
Olga, *ouch* comparing this book series to a superficial teengage tv series and as much as I LOVE THIS SERIES, thank you, thank you to Jenny Han for her professionalism in bringing closure to this series instead of dragging it on like some other book series (ie House of Night) or a teenage tv series where the same plot lines get beat to the ground. Abigail, I wasn't referring to Conrad as the ex, instead I was referring to Jeremiah if Belly gets together with Conrad in book 3.
Healani wrote: "Olga, *ouch* comparing this book series to a superficial teengage tv series and as much as I LOVE THIS SERIES, thank you, thank you to Jenny Han for her professionalism in bringing closure to this ..."Just saying sometimes it isnt always awkward ending up with the brother of your ex when that guy is right for you. Just sayin.'
I like both brothers equally, I really do. It's obvious that Jeremiah loves Belly, and we're unsure of Conrad. But if this book description is true to heart, then I really think that we'll get to finally see why Con loves Belly and maybe get to look inside his head. I've personally been routing for him all along, but I do agree that Jeremiah has seemed like a worthier candidate. But cheating is cheating, and we'll have to see how Belly reacts. Maybe the ending will leave it open to where she could end up with either one? (I personally hate that idea, but meh)
Jordan wrote: "one more thing jereimaih doesnt really protect her like in its not summer wihtout you wen shes drunk and wants to go swimming jere said sure and conrad said no. so thats an example of how conrad ca..."Well thena gain he was most likely drunk as well, or at least a little smashed, and most definitely not in the right mind.
Conrad is such a jerk.JEREMIAH FOREVER!
Hmmm....the hardest descion a girl is to make....witch guy!? You have a choice between two amazing guys...but who do you pick...theres jere...sweet sensitive level headed...always there and not scared to show belly how he feels...than there is conrad...90% he is a really big jerk ans than 5% hes moody..but than that glimpse of when he opened up as much as he does to belly shows her and us as readers what he can be...hes a gamble and a chance she never really...will know how he feels and what he wants but...does she stay with safe jere or the dnagerous conrad....my..bote is on conrad...whats love without a challenge jere and her have it "to" easy no sparks its just kinda boring...GO TEAM CONRAD:D
Hmmm....the hardest descion a girl is to make....witch guy!? You have a choice between two amazing guys...but who do you pick...theres jere...sweet sensitive level headed...always there and not scared to show belly how he feels...than there is conrad...90% he is a really big jerk ans than 5% hes moody..but than that glimpse of when he opened up as much as he does to belly shows her and us as readers what he can be...hes a gamble and a chance she never really...will know how he feels and what he wants but...does she stay with safe jere or the dnagerous conrad....my..bote is on conrad...whats love without a challenge jere and her have it "to" easy no sparks its just kinda boring...GO TEAM CONRAD:D
ok so i understand that the amazon and a publishers website says that when "belly and jeremiah decide to make it forever," but think about it, it could mean he gives her a promise ring or something like that (you know that engaged-to-be-engaged type thing). han could be messing with our heads in that epilogue by saying belly is in a white dress and make us think its her wedding day but i doubt it. in every book its summer it could just be a white summer dress. anyone think about that lol. i agree with the team conrad fans cuz you just dont let go of something so strong no matter what. i know it wasnt that big what they had but in its not summer without you, in the hotel room, conrad realizes what an ass he has been and tells belly the truth. you dont just give up on that. and i believe that the worst mistake is probably something he says to her about conrad or how they never cared for her or something. idk i love jenny han but i feel like she might be trying to steer us in a direction just so we can be shocked when she goes in another.
Bfisher wrote: "ok so i understand that the amazon and a publishers website says that when "belly and jeremiah decide to make it forever," but think about it, it could mean he gives her a promise ring or something..."True. But Conrad didn't completely tell the truth. He just says that he didn't mean it when saying he never wanted her. He never said he loved her, just that at one point he did want her. But in the epilogue of Its Not Summer Without You it begins with Belly talking about Forever and how this wasn't how she pictured Forever and how shes running off with Him (whoever it is) in a white dress. So to me that means a wedding. But I'm just gonna wait and see who's right and who's wrong when April 26th is here.
I mean when she says "this isn't how I pictured it" that doesn't have to mean boy-wise. And I've thought either/or on the white dress/wedding thing, but it might not be a wedding at all. I'd really kind of be annoyed if it was her wedding with Jere and then Conrad comes in and she leaves with him...I hope that's not the case.Who knows but I CAN'T wait until April :))
yea your right olga about him not telling the complete truth but i think in pure "conrad fashion" that that's probably his way of pouring out what he has to say like feelings wise. and ya at first i did feel the wedding thing but then i tried thinking of other conclusions and i just thought maybe it could just be coincidence or whatnot. and ya kelsey i agree cuz if it is a wedding and she leaves one for the other, there would be a massive heartbreak that i dont really feel is the way belly would want to end things with either one. we may all be completely wrong and it may be something none of us even expect like cam coming back or something lol. i mean the title makes me feel she could give them both up and i really dont want that. either way im just so excited for april. can it come any slower?
Bfisher wrote: "yea your right olga about him not telling the complete truth but i think in pure "conrad fashion" that that's probably his way of pouring out what he has to say like feelings wise. and ya at first ..."Yeah. Maybe Han is just getting our hopes up? But if Belly ends up with A.) No One or B.) A Non-Fisher boy I will be SOOOOOOO mad!!!! She's gotta end up with ONE of them!! I just hope Conrad will finally suck it up and admit to Belly he loves her!! And/or this one will be in his POV. Make some sense out of his "Ass-hat" ways. lol. Like i said, guess we'll have to wait and see!! Just TWO MORE MONTHS AND COUNTING!!! :) :) :)
Well with everyone thinking she will ditch one of the Fisher boys, what if she and one of the guys, are eloping (I think I spelled that right). I mean running through the rain, not how she pictured it, it might fit. I wish we will be able to see Conards p.o.v. But i like J better, and people say you are supposed to marry your best friends.
i didnt think of that i mean it doesnt mean she will run away FROM a boy but maybe shes running AWAY with a boy
Jordan wrote: "i didnt think of that i mean it doesnt mean she will run away FROM a boy but maybe shes running AWAY with a boy"Now THAT i definitely can work with!!! Would make sense! Besides it would add all the more spark to the final book! I read in an interview with Jenny Han about the third book saying how its taking so long is because shes trying to tie up all the lose ends. So maybe this is a good thing? But yeah I soo can see the whole elopement thing going on. Now im hopin thats whats going on!!
I just re-read the little chapter at the end of the second book and i definitely see the whole running away with a boy thing. also i definitely think it's Conrad. It says "When I used to picture forever, it was always with the same boy." Meaning conrad. The next line is "This wasn't the way I pictured it."I'm thinking she ends up with Conrad but it's just not the way she imagined her fairy tale.
Here's another thought...if I made a literal translation of the title "We'll always have summer", it would be that Belly would be sharing summers only with one (if she finally choose between one of the brothers) or maybe both (if chooses none of the brothers). The last 2 titles of the series pretty much matched the story. Or, it could just mean the Fisher boys finally got the house in their name....hmmm
Healani wrote: "Here's another thought...if I made a literal translation of the title "We'll always have summer", it would be that Belly would be sharing summers only with one (if she finally choose between one o..."Wow. I never thought of it like that. Really does make sense. Every title DID match the story almost perfectly. The Summer I Turned Pretty - Belly was finally noticed and blossomed. Its Not Summer Without You - Susannah died and summer wont be the same without her. We'll Always Have Summer - Mmmmm. My best guess is Belly will always share her summers with one of the boys or something else. Guess we'll have to wait and see!!! But yeah Healani I never thought of it like that. Thnx for pointing that out!!! :)
Or in the end they agreed she shouldn't be with either but they will always have summer. I really hope that isn't what happens.
Lexy wrote: "Or in the end they agreed she shouldn't be with either but they will always have summer. I really hope that isn't what happens."
Oh GOD i hope that isnt it!!! But then almost every fan doesnt want that and if Jenny Han does that dont you think she'll be getting a ton of hate mail or dislike mail for the final installment? Thats what keeps me hopin that she may just not do that. Keep your fingers crossed everyone!!!!
I want i to be Conrad but I would hate her if she hurt Jeremiah. I want him to be happy.
EVERYONE--Jenny Han just twittered an hour ago that she had a surprise for everyone who've emailed her, CHAPTER OF OF WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE SUMMER!!! Hurry email her now!!!
Healani wrote: "EVERYONE--Jenny Han just twittered an hour ago that she had a surprise for everyone who've emailed her, CHAPTER OF OF WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE SUMMER!!! Hurry email her now!!!"!!!!!!!!! okay someone should post that on this (if its not illlegal or something) because ive tried to emial her and my comouter just wont do it
here is an email that is provided on her website. jenny@dearjennyhan.com Im gonna try it! but SOMEBODY POST IT OR SEND IT TO MY EMAIL PLEASE AT WRITERGRL14@YAHOO.COM AND IF POST IT IF THEY CAN AND IF ITS NOT I REPEAT NOT ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jordan wrote: "one more thing jereimaih doesnt really protect her like in its not summer wihtout you wen shes drunk and wants to go swimming jere said sure and conrad said no. so thats an example of how conrad ca..."hey where did u guys read it's not summer without u. was it online ?!!
Michelle wrote: "OK, here's what's gonna happen:She'll end up with Conrad. Jeremiah will show his true colours (that he's a lying, cheating little scum bag), and Conrad will finally wake up to himself and tell Be..."
OMG! WHOO! Go You! I totally agree.
Conrad and Belly forever.
Yes, he was a jerk. But his mum died. Anger is one of the five stages of grief. I think.
He is so sweet, he and belly work together, so perfect
On Jenny Hans page theres even a heart saying B.C + C.F. Its fate. You can't mess with fate.
Jeremiah is going to screw up and she will end up with Conrad, who will have realised how much he loved her and needed her and make some sweet declaration & Jeremiah can go get drunk somewhere.I can't wait :)
Olga wrote: "here is an email that is provided on her website. jenny@dearjennyhan.com Im gonna try it! but SOMEBODY POST IT OR SEND IT TO MY EMAIL PLEASE AT WRITERGRL14@YAHOO.COM AND IF POST IT IF THEY CAN AND..."
Please email it to me too!! at okaydokey4689@aim.com thanks so much!!
ahhh omg i found the third book summary on jenny han's website here it is: It's been two years since Conrad told Belly to go with Jeremiah. She and Jeremiah have been inseparable ever since, even attending the same college-- only, their relationship hasn't exactly been the happily ever after Belly had hoped it would be. And when Jeremiah makes the worst mistake a boy can make, Belly is forced to question what she thought was true love. Does she really have a future with Jeremiah? Has she ever gotten over Conrad? It's time for Belly to decide, once and for all, who has her heart forever.
I read that this one book reviewer got an advanced copy of We'll Always Have Summer (much to her utter joy) and wrote her review and chose to read it - SUCH A BAD MOVE!!! Turns out yes there are some chaps from Conrad's POV (THANK GOD)but apparently he just "pops up now and then, " and there is a ton of emotion for Belly who is serious in her relationship with Jere who spill a "big secret" to their families and rejection from her mom about something but of course the book reviewer refused to tell who Bells ends up with but i guess Conrad's been giving Jere and Belly some "space." But she does say that when reading "Conrad's thoughts" she had an "Oh wow," moment. But cut off there. Let me just say she is SOOO lucky!!!! Maybe I should become a book reviewer. So she does give a little summary of her own of the book but barely gives any detail about the story itself. But it sounds sooo good and couldn't believe she was soo damn lucky to get an ADVANCED copy!! ('Scuse my language.)She says it was beyond great and she couldn't put her down. So if u wanna read this review go ahead but heed my warning, it might just make u want to punch something. To think she got an early copy!! Oh and here is a quote she leaks to us on page three of the book.
"My two great loves. I think I always knew I would be Belly Fisher one day. I just didn't know it would happen like this." Which in my view is no different than the epilogue of Its Not Summer Without You.
Here is the link!!
http://sheknownasjess.blogspot.com/2011/...
olga wrote "My two great loves. I think I always knew I would be Belly Fisher one day. I just didn't know it would happen like this." Which in my view is no different than the epilogue of Its Not Summer Without You...I think it means that they both asked her to marry her or like one did and the other one is trying to make her go elope with him or something like that...but i think in th eend she wont end up with either fisher boy cuz that is like how it happens in every book that has a plot like this.I think thats why it is titled We'll Always Have Summer, meaning that its done now its like time to move on, that we will always have the memories of summer even if we dont see each other anymore. I would hate if it ends like this, I would extremley hate it but...it could happen.:( I really wish the book would come out know!!.(In the link she gave us it says Belly and J have big news to tell everyone and that is that either there getting married or J got Belly pregnet, atleast thats what i think, and that could be the big mistake he like forget or something to use a condom/ just my thoughts and not even sure if they make since)
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.. NO PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME WHO SHE ENDED UP WITH! IM LIKE DYING HERE! OMG PLEASE PLEASE DUN LET HER END UP WITH NON OF THEM ILY CONRAD!
Jordan wrote: "tell us who you think deserves belly and why"I think that she should go with Conrad only if he loves her back because I think their love would be true. Jeremiah is just really a boyfriend who Belly can't always love, even though he loves her. It's like Conrad and Belly have this connection that is so true to each other that I think they are perfect
Emma wrote: "Jordan wrote: "tell us who you think deserves belly and why"I think that she should go with Conrad only if he loves her back because I think their love would be true. Jeremiah is just really a bo..."
LOL dudeeeeeeeeee, he has always been in love with her haha from like the very first book. it's so obvious
I found this link on We'll Always Have Summer and figured I'd show you guys. http://mrslightreads.blogspot.com/201...
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I just learned from some of the reviews I have been reading from people who have gotten the eARCs from the publishers website. Jeremiah DOES cheat on Belly. However when he cheats on Belly they are apparently on some sort of break. Before Spring break they have a huge fight and take a temporary break from the relationship i guess and Jere goes to Cabo with some fraternity brothers. While there he sleeps with some girl:( But then he comes back from spring break and they get back together. Jere doesn't tell belly what he did and lies to her about it untill she hears it from another source. This sounds very similar to the whole Ross and Rachel situation on Friends, where ross and rachel take a break and ross immediately sleeps with some girl he met in a bar.
My opinion on this: break or no break if you love a girl like Jere says he loves Belly then sleeping with someone else immediately after you have a fight is still cheating. And maybe I'm just saying this because I'm a HUGE Conrad supporter but you have to admit its a pretty low thing to do. And on top of everything he doesn't tell her himself and poor Belly has to find out from someone else:(
BOOOOOOO!!!! JERE
GO TEAM CONRAD!!!!!!
Mia wrote: "**SPOILERS****SPOILERS**
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I just learned from some of the reviews I have been reading from people who have gotten the eARCs from the publishers website. Jeremiah DOES cheat on Belly...."
What website??? Please tell me!!! Personally i LOVE spoilers!!
I just found this one website that reveals alot on WAHS so *MAJOR SPOILER ALERTS!!!!* But it also reveals a HUGE HUGE HUGE detail, well dialogue part from one of the characters. And lemme just tell you, its MAJORLY heart wrenching. So if u wanna take a peek go right ahead! Here is the link!!
http://theendingunplanned.blogspot.co...
Don't say I didnt warn you!!
Hey this is the same site i got my spoilers from lol
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