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Word Challenge
Do they have to be English? I like the idea of making it multicultural.How about "cerezas"? :)
It's Spanish for "cherries."
Spanish word for cherries. Seems like a tough one to work into a conversation, unless you're speaking Spanish.
I have faith in you, Jonathan! You can make it work. I know you can. :)
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Heidi wrote: "I have faith in you, Jonathan! You can make it work. I know you can. :)"Vale, lo puedo hacer.
Jonathan wrote: "Vale, lo puedo hacer."I have good instincts about these things... clearly. :)
ok, here is how my lunch went at scoops ice cream shop (not shoppe with the ppe on the end):me: Pardoname, yo quiero un helado con una cereza por favor
girl: whut?
me: yo quiero un helado con una cereza por favor
girl: [grinning while wrinkling nose and closing one eye:] huh?
me: almond joy, one dip in a sugar cone
girl: $2
Yo Sorry, I mixed up my Spanish and French verbs for "to eat" there. :)
I wanted "comer" not manger.
Hmm. ¿Qué hiciste ayer con las cerezas precisamente?
Yo tengo cerezas en mi comida.How'd I do? (It's true! I brought too many though, so I had some for lunch, and I will have some when my head starts to fall off later in the day.)
Sarah Pi wrote: "Yo tengo cerezas en mi comida.How'd I do?"
Depends. Did you want to say that you have some cherries in your kitchen or that you have cherries in your food (or meal)? Cocina = kitchen. Comida = food.
Jackie, fantástico que comiste esas sabrosas cerezas ayer. Y sin duda, hay más en el mercado.But you did eat them in the past tense, I hope...
Jonathan wrote: "Sarah Pi wrote: "Yo tengo cerezas en mi comida.How'd I do?"
Depends. Did you want to say that you have some cherries in your kitchen or that you have cherries in your food (or meal)? Cocina = k..."
I meant in my lunch. I could only think of the Hebrew for lunch. Sometimes I think I should just learn Ladino so I could be equally misunderstood in Hebrew and Spanish.
Lunch = almuerzoIs Ladino still spoken by anyone as a primary language? Or is it kind of dying out, like Yiddish?
Dying out faster than Yiddish, to my knowledge.
Interesting. I've never heard it spoken, or seen it written for that matter, whereas you still occasionally meet people in New York who can speak Yiddish, like for instance Jackie Mason, whom I saw on the street outside Fairway market last week. He's remarkably short.
Fairway! I miss New York.Sascha Baron Cohen's brother Erron put out an album that includes a song in Ladino, "Ocho Kandalikas" -- you can hear a snippet on iTunes without buying it, I'm sure.
Jonathan wrote: "Jackie, fantástico que comiste esas sabrosas cerezas ayer. Y sin duda, hay más en el mercado.But you did eat them in the past tense, I hope..."
Hee! See, this is why I should stick to French. My one year of Spanish no es suficiente. I speak caveman Spanish... "I eat cherries yesterday, yum." :)
I'll check it out. Is it a Hannukah song? It involves eight (ocho) of something... And kandelika sounds kind of like candela, a blazing fire... So maybe a kandelika could be like a small fire or a candle or something like that?
You got it. The album is a Hannukah album for adults. It's the coolest Hannukah album I've ever heard.I believe kandelikas are little candles, since the chorus counts them and then says "ocho kandelas para mi", so the kandelikas must be diminutive.
eight candles for me? es una cancion del cumpleanos?
That's funny. I just found a snippet of it on You Tube, although by a different artist, not Cohen. The modern Spanish word for candle is vela. Una candela is actually more like a four alarm fire. Must have been different in older Spanish.
Do you know the song "El cuarto de Tula" from the Buena Vista Social Club Album? The chorus is "Candela, candela, el cuarto de Tula se cogio candela..." In that instance, the fire is both a literal and figurative one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFM6GK...
Here are two samples from Wikipedia:Judeo-Spanish (Ladino)
El Judeo-Spanish, djudio, Judezmo o ladino es la lingua favlada por los sefardim, djudios ekspulsados de la Espanya enel 1492. Es una lingua derivada del espanyol i favlada por 150.000 personas en komunitas en Israel, la Turkia, antika Yugoslavia, la Gresia, el Maruekos, Mayorka, las Amerikas, entre munchos otros.
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El judeo-español, djudio, djudezmo o ladino es la lengua hablada por los sefardíes, judíos expulsados de España en 1492. Es una lengua derivada del español y hablada por 150.000 personas en comunidades en Israel, Turquía, la antigua Yugoslavia, Grecia, Marruecos, Mallorca, las Américas, entre muchos otros.
That's so interesting, Sarah--completely comprehensible to anyone who can read Spanish, but it has a slightly antique quality to it. One example of this is using an f in place of the h in the word hablada ("spoken"), which is apparently favlada in Ladino. That's a very common spelling difference between modern and 15th-century Spanish. The words for "my son," or "mi hijo" in modern Spanish, would have been written "mi fijo" back then. A fig tree, "una higuera" in modern Spanish, would have been "una figuera," etc.
Anyway, fascinating stuff. And good to know that there are still 150,000 native speakers around!
I think most of the native speakers are aging, though. And I think there are more people trying to save Yiddish. My youngest sister's high school had FOUR mandatory languages - English, French, Hebrew, and Yiddish. BMy father speaks it fluently since it was the language his parents had used when they didn't want him to understand them, and so he taught it to himself.
Jackie "the Librarian" wrote: "Hee! See, this is why I should stick to French..."Practice makes perfect, Jackie. I'm sure that French can be a big help in learning Spanish: for instance the gender of most of the nouns is consistent in both languages. Anyway, my Spanish is very rusty. I don't really use the language very much these days, although I once did. So it's nice to take it out for a spin.
Sarah Pi wrote: "My father speaks it fluently since it was the language his parents had used when they didn't want him to understand them, and so he taught it to himself..."That's hilarious. Yiddish may or may not die out, but I think that Yiddish-accented English will probably live on forever. What would comedians do without it? There's no better voice in which to deliver one-liners...
I got a bag of Rainier cherries from the kitchen and presented them to my mother & son."Would either of you care for some cerezas?"
Yummy.
Ooooh, Rainiers are GOOD!
excellent phil. that's the spirit of the challenge
I am at a marked disadvantage because my wife and kids are out of town so I don't talk with many people. If my kids were here this would be easy.
RA, you have all of us. Work it into a "Random" thread.
If this were winter, I'd say, "It's so cold out my testicles are the size of cerezas."
does TC count Kevin, if one is desperate to use the word?
nope. gotta say it out loud to an unsuspecting person
OK. But any chance you can pick before 10am Eastern, RA? I'm likely to have my only social interactions of the day at the gym tomorrow morning.
Thanks, Kevin! Jonathan gets to pick the next day, ok? And my mom is...God knows where my mom is, Gail...The word for tomorrow, Friday, after consulting with Jackie, who really came up with the word, is...
peripatetic
And you talk with people at the gym, Jonathan? I'm not chatty at the gym. But I go real early and we all sort of stumble in the doors wearing our headphones and hit the machines.
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I have a friend who is a pastor and we give him words right before he speaks in public to use. While in India last year he had to use the word "pile driver" in front of 10,000 people and using an interpreter. He killed it and glanced at us when he did much to our delight.
A word suggestion to start things off?