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message 1: by Ravenclaw26 (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments I've been hearing that this group isn't really about hating twilight anymore and that there is too much randomness so... I created this discussion!

(I figured we needed a plot discussion)

Twilight's plot is pretty pathetic... it only appears in the last 50 pages of each 400 page book. Also, most of the time it's because Bella does something stupid and someone tries to sacrifice themselves... and someone (sadly D:) stops them.

Twilight: Bella tries to sacrifice herself to James because she can't tell when someone's bluffing. Edward saves her.

New Moon: Edwards tries to commit suicide because he thinks Bella committed suicide but Bella stops him.

Eclipse: Bella tries to commit suicide, but GASPS instead and saves the day! (WTF!?)

I just noticed how much suicide is glorified in this series... shudder.

Breaking Dawn has some semblance of a plot and it doesn't only appear in the last 50 pages. -BUT this time Stephie forgot a CLIMAX- instead she gives her characters a happily ever after. YAAAAAY! (:/)

Feel free to continue my rant- I'm ranted out.


message 2: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments Nice! And I just noticed how much suicide there was too....


message 3: by Ravenclaw26 (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments The suicide thing is pretty scary.

Wow, no one ranted. I feel really dumb now.


message 4: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments I CAN'T STAND HOW SHE COMPARES TO OTHER AUTHORS LKHLKADG;KAEJHNG;NV- ;LAEJRHGPIJERGKJAHRG;-AAAAHHH!

THERE ARE NO WORDS TO EXPRESS MAH RAAAAAAGE!


message 5: by Christopher (new)

Christopher Herald | 3 comments The ending to breaking dawn was horrible. someone needed to die.


message 6: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments I thought that ending was extremely stupid. The fans had their sheilds raised to protect their chests, their swords sharpened and pointed outward to the Volturri. And...

They talk it out.

It may be a good life lesson, but according to Mrs. Meyer, it's romantic to be a stalker... so how much can you really trust to be a good life lesson?


message 7: by Ravenclaw26 (last edited Jul 15, 2010 07:41PM) (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments A climax to the book and the series is more important than a last minute life lesson. No one cares. The entire time I was like "C'mon, get to the part where Jane kills Edward" and then- nothing. What an empty feeling... What a ripoff.


message 8: by Kimathy (new)

Kimathy yah, having some one die, anyone really. would have raised it's rating for me.


message 9: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments WHY DIDN'T THEY HAVE ACTION I THOUGHT IT WAS GUNNA HAVE ACTION WHY DID IT NOT HAVE ACTION BAAAAAAAAAAW!!!


message 10: by Ravenclaw26 (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments The only suspense was wondering when it was going to end.


message 11: by Ravenclaw26 (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments I don't like Alice "The Plot Device" Cullen. Her predictions are just crappy plot devices with tons of plot holes.


message 12: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments I don't like it when characters in books get a gazzilon and eighty nine prophecys or visions or something.

It's like in a video game, where if you go to some guy or something, they'll give you a hint on what to do next.


Devan, Sarcasm Expert (curiouscat) | 81 comments Sort of like the 4th Final Destination Movie or that show Heros.


message 15: by Kimathy (new)

Kimathy O.O i loved Heroes!


Devan, Sarcasm Expert (curiouscat) | 81 comments I disliked that Hero's always showed the future in every season then up- they got to change it for the next season.


Devan, Sarcasm Expert (curiouscat) | 81 comments Canceled? Hmm well I stopped watching it anyway after reason 2 so. As for the future deal I dislike it when things just got too crazy ridiculous, which started to form holes in the story line.


message 19: by Kimathy (new)

Kimathy i freaking loved Elle and That Irish chick! :/ what is wrong with writers these days?


message 20: by Kimathy (new)

Kimathy MYHAPPYMONSTER wrote: "http://yourworldoftext.com/IHATETWILIGHT

YESH!"


what was the point of that?


message 21: by Kimathy (new)

Kimathy stupid *sexy* sylar....


message 22: by Kimathy (new)

Kimathy *sexy* Spock!


message 23: by Kimathy (new)

Kimathy *sexy* Spock!


message 24: by Kimathy (new)

Kimathy me too! haha, except i failed at holding it in and annoyed everyone! :D


message 25: by Kimathy (new)

Kimathy >.> i guess that's good... :D


message 26: by Devan, Sarcasm Expert (last edited Jul 19, 2010 08:57AM) (new)

Devan, Sarcasm Expert (curiouscat) | 81 comments Rose wrote: "Oh god you sound like my brother.
NO ONE LIKED THE IRISH CHICK! EVERYONE HATED HER!
GET. OVER. IT."


Its not that I liked or disliked her its just that I had no clue what happened to her. Peter's all like "I'll come back for you", and then he never did. I felt like What the Hell he loved the girl and then he forget her? But in all honesty she's as good as dead, but all I wanted is just them to mention her death.
Well its a good thing I didn't finish Lost because all those questions would have upset me too.


message 27: by Ravenclaw26 (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments I love how rose manages to geek out in every topic! Yay nerds!


message 28: by Ravenclaw26 (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments I never watched Heroes, though. I have watched the new star trek! Loved it! Has anyone watched the Big Bang Theory?


message 29: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments Yes, she has a very large... um, what is the word? Whatever, she knows so much about Star Trek and the like that she manages to find a connection between our current topic and some... obsession? of hers....


message 30: by Ravenclaw26 (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments YAY! Sheldon is hilarious! Leonard is the lamest of the characters though...

Sorry... I don't know much about Trek besides the new movies... *shrinks back in fear*


message 31: by Ravenclaw26 (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments I think "The Wrath of Khan" was mentioned in TBBT... was it the Ka'ah episode?


message 32: by Ravenclaw26 (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments Ya know "DIE WILL WHEATON DIE!"


message 33: by Ravenclaw26 (new)

Ravenclaw26 | 105 comments You won't pity him after you watch the episode.


message 34: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments I feel so left out.... Whatever.


message 35: by Kimathy (new)

Kimathy don't worry i do to....


message 36: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments Yay!!


message 37: by KarmaSc0rpi0n (last edited Apr 23, 2016 10:51PM) (new)

KarmaSc0rpi0n Her plot is mainly taken or "inspired" by Romeo & Juliet which she stupidly thinks is a love story. That alone tells you her intelligence level isn't quite up to par. But apparently I'm guessing when she read the play she wished to have a romance like theirs (again believing what they had was actual love) but wished they'd survived. So she builds a plot where suicide is an option because in her mind you really don't love a person until you're willing to die when they die, but at the misunderstanding that Shakespeare would have written that ends in death, now ends solved for the happily ever after that seemed even to me like a flimsy reason to die. Unfortunately her method sidesteps any and all consequences making everything in her story completely pointless because now it's as though nothing ever happened and nothing might as well have happened. No one changes, no one evolves, love doesn't conquer all because love was never in her story. I didn't care that there was no show down or that any and all action was not seen in the books because it's a romance novel and that's it. But what I did hate was that because it was a romance novel it was supposed to be very character driven and paced correctly for them to fall in love, which never happened. They started in obsession and stayed in obsession and their romance was derived from a story that's not a romance so she failed in all aspects in which her plot was supposed to go.


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