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[Sagajo]

Kaje wrote: "I'm anticipating starting The Tempering of Men. I really liked the first book in this series; one of the best bonded-to-animals fantasies I've read and with m/m sex as a central poi..."

Is there an ebook version of A Companion to Wolves? Didn't see any on Amazon.

[Sagajo]

I hate this "not available in your region" thing... Why not use the beauty of internet? *pissed*

[[deleted user]]

Sagajo wrote: "Is there an ebook version of A Companion to Wolves? Didn't see any on Amazon."

I don't think so. I looked for one a few months ago and came up empty.

[Sagajo]

Kate Mc. wrote: "Sagajo wrote: "Is there an ebook version of A Companion to Wolves? Didn't see any on Amazon."

I don't think so. I looked for one a few months ago and came up empty."

I found this one but it's not available in Europe. http://www.amazon.com/A-Companion-to-...

I am trying to see if I can cheat the system...

[Kaje]

It's available from B&N as a Nook book - and I own a Nook (although I have this one in the dead-tree version; I still love paper books.)

[Sagajo]

Kaje wrote: "It's available from B&N as a Nook book - and I own a Nook (although I have this one in the dead-tree version; I still love paper books.)"

Internationals can never buy from B&N. Amazon has like a server where your books are so they can sell internationally, usually. Country restriction are just so anti internet technology and it makes me mad. The same for friend of mine that can't buy music if it's not on US itunes.

It's like I lend the books I buy (which I am not happy about either, but anyway).

[Becky]

Sagajo wrote: "Kate Mc. wrote: "Sagajo wrote: "Is there an ebook version of A Companion to Wolves? Didn't see any on Amazon."

I don't think so. I looked for one a few months ago and came up empty."

I found thi..."

I found it at the Sony bookstore and Books on Board. I didn't see any geographic limits listed on either entry, so you might be able to get it from one of them.

[Liade]

Becky wrote: "Sagajo wrote: "Kate Mc. wrote: "Sagajo wrote: "Is there an ebook version of A Companion to Wolves? Didn't see any on Amazon."

I don't think so. I looked for one a few months ago and came up empty..."


Books on Board don't sell outside of the US, neither does Sony - in both cases this doesn't show up until after an account has been opened and the order been placed - guess how I know...

A Google search also showed it at Diesel ebooks, I don't know if they do.

[Sagajo]

I am trying B&N again now but as usual it's just problems. Last time I spent a day trying to figure out the special format they wanted me tro write my international postal code in. And then placed my order and found out, no the book can't be downloaded if you're IP is not in the US.

Never had these issues with Amazon, they let you know BEFORE you try and buy if you can or not. And buying books is VERY easy. Grrr.

[Sagajo]

Btw, Kaje, does the book have non-con or forced sex?

[Kaje]

Sagajo wrote: "Btw, Kaje, does the book have non-con or forced sex?"

No. It has a scene of consensual sex that gets longer and rougher than the guy expects but for valid reasons. Not with any intent to injure but just related to the biology of wolves. Sex in the book ties into the mens' bonds with the wolves. But there is for the most part affection or at least mutual desire involved. If you are squeamish about such things... it might bother you in that one scene.

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Sagajo wrote: "Btw, Kaje, does the book have non-con or forced sex?"

Actually I'd call it forced consensual sex. But as Kaje says, it's forced because of the nature of the wolves' mating habits and the bonds between the animals and the men. It's consensual in that it's agreed to, not that the protagonist actually wants it to happen.

[Sagajo]

Kaje wrote: "Sagajo wrote: "Btw, Kaje, does the book have non-con or forced sex?"

No. It has a scene of consensual sex that gets longer and rougher than the guy expects but for valid reasons. Not with any int..."

Wow, I just read the firt scene "in heat" that isfolde (?) witnessed. Thats definetely non-con to me. The whole concept of sex without attraction... I don't know. It's not something that he will willingly do, it's a sacrifice he does to be able to be with his wolfe. Just the quote "Hringolfr is unhurt."...

[Kaje]

Sagajo wrote: "Kaje wrote: "Sagajo wrote: "Btw, Kaje, does the book have non-con or forced sex?"

No. It has a scene of consensual sex that gets longer and rougher than the guy expects but for valid reasons. Not..."

I don't know - it depends on how you define consent, I guess. To me, there was always the opportunity to just walk away from the Wolfhold and especially with that first scene the guy bottoming was older and had done that many times before. So if he really was non-con he didn't have to be there. I took it more like consensual BDSM, that he was being roughly topped but knew the score going in, had his own desire and release and was accepting of the scene.

[Sagajo]

Kaje wrote: "
I don't know - it depends on how you define consent, I guess. To me, there was always the opportunity to just walk away from the Wolfhold and especially with that first scene the guy bottoming was older and had done that many times before. So if he really was non-con he didn't have to be there. I took it more like consensual BDSM, that he was being roughly topped but knew the score going in, had his own desire and release and was accepting of the scene. "

I feel the whole set-up of the coupling is based on non-consent... built up by honor and the love to their wolves. Non-consent is usually never as easy as having the option to say yes or no, it usually involves a price. Sex given because the price would be too high if the person would not consent is very uncomfortable to me. It's kind of like emotional blackmail.

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Kaje wrote: "that he was being roughly topped but knew the score going in, had his own desire and release and was accepting of the scene. "

I took it as a trade off he was willing to accept for his wolf. For Isolfr it is always because he can't walk away and leave her, but he does consider it, and he is never comfortable with the sex. The first guy? Who knows. We never are in his mind.

ETA: I think Monette meant us to be uncomfortable with it and to look at the sexual implications of a human animal bond as something other than thrillingly romantic, as sex imposed outside of choice. She had to have been riffing off the Dragonriders of Pern where you have the mating between the dragons forcing a mating between the H/H. In Monette's book it isn't a transcendent event like it is in Dragonriders.

[Sagajo]

Kate Mc. wrote: "I took it as a trade off he was willing to accept for his wolf. For Isolfr it is always because he can't walk away and leave her, but he does consider it, and he is never comfortable with the sex. The first guy? Who knows. We never are in his mind. "

Stuff like this gives me nightmares...

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Sagajo wrote: "Stuff like this gives me nightmares... "

Sorry. :( I suspect the author probably wanted to pull that response out of people. See my edit above.

[Sagajo]

Kate Mc. wrote: "Sorry. :( I suspect the author probably wanted to pull that response out of people. See my edit above."

She definetely succeeded. I can not even find joy in the good sex, the set-up couplings that is enjoyable, because it is like an unexpected gift instead of something that is your right.

[Kaje]

Kate Mc. wrote: "Kaje wrote: "that he was being roughly topped but knew the score going in, had his own desire and release and was accepting of the scene. "

I took it as a trade off he was willing to accept for hi..."

She says she was definitely riffing off the green dragon riders in the Pern books - that's where the idea came from, batting around what it really would have been like. I don't know, I guess it bothered me but not to that degree, because I felt there was more consent that other people are seeing here.

[Anne]

Josh wrote: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_H...

The most important thing to know about Hansen is that with the advent of the Dave Brandstetter series both PI fiction and gay fiction changed ..."

Cool, I will check him. Right after the first of the year, when I have time...

[Josh]

You're starting to sound like me, Anne. NOT. GOOD.

[Ami]

I finished Joseph Hansen's Fadeout. Amazing how short sentences can deliver a punch. I think I will line up Death Claims soon.

[Cheryl]

I started reading Marked by Joely Skye. I've never been interested in werewolves or shifters of any kind, but this was available as a free read somewhere a while back so I figured I'd give it a try even though I was sure I wouldn't like it and the cover is unattractive. The only shifter story I've read prior to this was Like a Sparrow Through the Heart which was charming, but very light-hearted. I didn't think I'd like a serious shifter book, especially one about werewolves which, to me, are smelly, drooly, hairy things that are not sexy, but so far I'm enjoying this book. This might be one of those situations where a free sample leads to buying the entire series.

I have Song of Oestend on the computer, and will read that next, provided I can figure out how to get it onto my ipod.

[Anne]

Lou wrote: "Militant vegetarians can be offputting. "

One of my former co-workers had a bumper sticker that read "4 out of 5 cannibals prefer vegetarians" and I always thought "Wa-hoo! I'm going to New Guinea with you." In our line of work, it was a possibility...

[Cheryl]

Militant anything can be off-putting. Even militant militants.

[Anne]

Sagajo wrote: "I hate this "not available in your region" thing... Why not use the beauty of internet? *pissed*"

I think it's a crime. And I live in the US where I can get almost anything.

[Anne]

Cheryl wrote: "Militant anything can be off-putting. Even militant militants."

LMAO

[Anne]

Josh wrote: "You're starting to sound like me, Anne. NOT. GOOD."

I'm sure it's just temporary...

Actually, I read two books recently, and I can recommend one unequivocally, Hot Head.

[Ayesh]

Ami wrote: "Okay, I finally pick up Joseph Hansen's Fadeout ... my God this book is a decade older than my age! I also pick up Marie Sexton's Song of Oestend after encouragement f..."

Song of Oestend was really good, except for the unnecessary menage scene :[

[Liade]

Bella wrote: "Song of Oestend was really good, except for the unnecessary menage scene :[..."

I loved [book:Song of Oestend|11483488] and I decided to see the menage scene (yes, I thought it was unnecessary, too) simply as sex ed for the third character, some preparation for his new life *g*

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Bella wrote: "Ami wrote: "Okay, I finally pick up Joseph Hansen's Fadeout ... my God this book is a decade older than my age! I also pick up Marie Sexton's Song of Oestend after enc..."

I totally agree, and also, I was a little put off by the way the 'Old People' were portrayed as so vengeful...But maybe that's just me.

[Antonella]

Liade wrote: "I loved Song of Oestend"

Good to know, then I'll buy it! ;-)

I loved



In fact I cannot say exactly why: I just couldn't put it down, the whole package was good.

[Ayesh]

Lauraadriana wrote: "I totally agree, and also, I was a little put off by the way the 'Old People' were portrayed as so vengeful..."

Yepp thats true

[Emanuela ~plastic duck~]

Antonella wrote: "I loved



In fact I cannot say exactly why: I just couldn't put it down, ..."

I adored this book too, enemies to lovers, wooooohhhooo. I think this book is anticipation at its best. It takes a while for both of them to understand that they care for the enemy and to realize that they work well together, to understand that they're already sharing an intimacy they don't want to acknowledge, but when it happens.......

[Antonella]

Ciao, Emanuela!

The part enemies to lovers was also well made.

BTW, are you still ''hopeless'' or you are just too lazy to take away that bit you added?

[Antonella]

OT: I'm not at home and I don't have the usual connection. This one looks ''weaker''. At the moment I can say something here only when I get an e-mail notification with a link to a comment. Otherwise I can't access the new comments in the different topics, I just see they are there.

I wanted to say something in the Book of the Month thread, so I'll say it it here:

Josh, please keep it going!
(I'll elaborate as soon as I can access the thread ;-)

[Ayesh]

Antonella wrote: "Ciao, Emanuela!
BTW, are you still ''hopeless'' or you are just too lazy to take away that bit you added?"

hahaha well said ; so what's the answer Emanuela?

[Liade]

Lauraadriana wrote: "I totally agree, and also, I was a little put off by the way the 'Old People' were portrayed as so vengeful...But maybe that's just me...."

I see what you mean but actually I didn't think that in the story vengefulness was an exclusive trait of the 'Old People', violence abounds.

[Emanuela ~plastic duck~]

Bella wrote: "Antonella wrote: "Ciao, Emanuela!
BTW, are you still ''hopeless'' or you are just too lazy to take away that bit you added?"

hahaha well said ; so what's the answer Emanuela?"


I'm still a bit hopeless, unfortunately, but I'm not as tired as I was last month so it's hopeless, but a little less hopeless, if there's a suitable word in English to describe it, I'll take it ;-)

[Ayesh]

Emanuela ~hopeless~ wrote: "Bella wrote: "Antonella wrote: "Ciao, Emanuela!
BTW, are you still ''hopeless'' or you are just too lazy to take away that bit you added?"

hahaha well said ; so what's the answer Emanuela?"

..."

hahaha ; well hope u get hopeFULL soon :D

[Emanuela ~plastic duck~]

Bella wrote: "hahaha ; well hope u get hopeFULL soon :D"

I do hope so ;)

Since I've been reading Manna Francis' The Administration for a couple of days, I wanted to change my profile's name to Emanuela - Plastic Duck -

I wish I could use it in real life as Warrick does with Toreth in the book! *sigh*

[Kaje]

Emanuela ~hopeless~ wrote: "I do hope so ;)

Since I've been reading Manna Francis' The Administration for a couple of days, I wanted to change my profile's name to Emanuela - Plastic Duck -

I wish I could use it in real life as Warrick does with Toreth in the book! *sigh*..."

Okay, just that comment is enough to make me search out the book, to find out WTF (???)

[[deleted user]]

Kaje wrote: "Emanuela ~hopeless~ wrote: "I do hope so ;)

Since I've been reading Manna Francis' The Administration for a couple of days, I wanted to change my profile's name to Emanuela - Plastic Duck -

I wis..."

LOL. It's his safeword. Not that I want to discourage you from enjoying TA. Best m/m I've read.

[Kaje]

Kate Mc. wrote: "Kaje wrote: "Emanuela ~hopeless~ wrote: "I do hope so ;)

Since I've been reading Manna Francis' The Administration for a couple of days, I wanted to change my profile's name to Emanuela - Plastic ..."

OK, goes on my TBR list.

[[deleted user]]

Kaje wrote: "Kate Mc. wrote: "Kaje wrote: "Emanuela ~hopeless~ wrote: "I do hope so ;)

Since I've been reading Manna Francis' The Administration for a couple of days, I wanted to change my profile's name to Em..."

It starts with Mind Fuck. Although she's published the stories as paper books, almost all of The Administration is available for free on her website.

[Ayesh]

Emanuela ~hopeless~ wrote: "Bella wrote: "hahaha ; well hope u get hopeFULL soon :D"

I do hope so ;)

Since I've been reading Manna Francis' The Administration for a couple of days, I wanted to change my profile's name t..."

Really? wow, that's book is in my TBR list like forever; gotta check it out :D

[Antonella]

Emanuela ~hopeless~ wrote: "Since I've been reading Manna Francis' The Administration for a couple of days"

That's one of the greatest series ever!

Here some enthusiastic reviews:

http://unique.logophilos.net/?p=436
http://topandbottomreviews.wordpress....
http://bookworld.editme.com/reviewmin...


And the paperbacks are so beautiful! Here the first one:


Yes, this is advertisement! But considering that you might chose to read the series for free, I suppose I'm forgiven:
http://www.mannazone.org/zone/admin/i...


And a friend who shares my passion told me only yesterday that Manna is answering questions here in August (her last comment is from the 27th):
http://the-slash-pile.livejournal.com...
Already lot of interesting questions and useful bits of information there!

Ehmm: did you notice that I do love the series? ;-)

[[deleted user]]

Antonella wrote: "Ehmm: did you notice that I do love the series? ;-)"

LMAO. Why no, I missed that part! ;)

Did you know she's working on an 8th book? Rewriting "Make it a Surprise" and adding who knows what else, although she hasn't set any kind of date when it might be released.

Nice to find another rabid fan!!

[Charming]

Emanuela ~hopeless~ wrote: "Since I've been reading Manna Francis' The Administration for a couple of days, I wanted to change my profile's name to Emanuela - Plastic Duck - "

LOL!

Kaje, it is Warrick's safe word. I really, really like The Administration, and it isn't at all my usual sort of read. Dystopia, sociopathic sex addict MC, heavy BDSM - I can't really recommend it very comfortably, but wow is it good.