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message 3551: by Heather C (new)

Heather C (heathercook) OMG, I have to get off GR! It's interfering with my Jack and D time!


message 3552: by Becky (new)

Becky (fibrobabe) | 1052 comments Heather C wrote: "I finally started Zero at the Bone (Zero at the Bone, #1) by Jane Seville!!!! its so good!"

I won't say anything right now, because I hate spoilers. But I look forward to talking about it once you're finished!


message 3553: by Heather C (new)

Heather C (heathercook) Becky wrote: "Heather C wrote: "I finally started Zero at the Bone (Zero at the Bone, #1) by Jane Seville!!!! its so good!"

I won't say anything right now, because I hate spoilers. But I look forward to talking about it once you'..."


oh, no! thats scary...


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Becky (fibrobabe) | 1052 comments Heather C wrote: "Becky wrote: "Heather C wrote: "I finally started Zero at the Bone (Zero at the Bone, #1) by Jane Seville!!!! its so good!"

I won't say anything right now, because I hate spoilers. But I look forward to talking ab..."


Oh, nothing scary. I just don't want to ruin any surprises!


message 3555: by Heather C (new)

Heather C (heathercook) Oh ok. Thank you


message 3556: by ns (new)

ns (vedi) Josh wrote: "All of the above need elaborating, which I'll try and do at some point. Really. Pinky Swear. I have to run, now.

I'm starting to suspect her of living a double life at some OTHER writer's commu..."


So many books to read, so many authors to stalk, so little time....

Dysyzhins, dysysssshhhins, as my friend Bugs would say. ;)


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Antonella | 11565 comments Emanuela ~Zstyx~ wrote: "I don't think I'll ever see same-sex marriage in Italy in my life. When I think that Spain - a Catholic country like ours - approved it, I feel my blood boil. I am so disappointed with my country :..."


Ciao, Emanuela!

I'm Italian too although I live abroad. I've just tried in another list to discuss to subject if the different evolution in Spain and in Italy in the last few years concerning equal rights, but no one had a clue.

Anyway I've just been talking to some young gay activist of Arcigay: when I expressed my concern about aggressions and so on, they made me notice that there were important progrss ads being made, for ex. meetings with official authorities and contacts with the media. I don't think they said so only to give a positive impression to the outside world.

Ciao

Antonella


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Antonella | 11565 comments Josh wrote: "I really need to check the Rifters series out.

I think so. I find Ginn's work...I don't know. Something about it grabs me by the throat. I was thinking about it this morning because we're sort o..."


Absolutely so. And after having read CUTYS, I could read The Rifter 4. Really gripping, an some details are better understandable now. I'm looking forward to the rest. And do you know she is working on a sequel of Wicked Gentlemen?

Ciao

Antonella


message 3559: by ns (new)

ns (vedi) mc wrote: "I really need to check the Rifters series out.

Yes. Yes, you do.

ns, glad you liked Mann of My Dreams. Good to see you here again.

I've been around, mc. Admittedly, only sporadically. Mostly on the new story threads. I think current insanity levels are slowly settling back into the usual levels of insanity.

"I probably shouldn't be here. There was a bit of wine imbibing tonight."

Oh hell damn yeah, you should. You're twice as entertaining sloshed, mc! :)


message 3560: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments Becky wrote: "Heather C wrote: "I finally started Zero at the Bone (Zero at the Bone, #1) by Jane Seville!!!! its so good!"

I won't say anything right now, because I hate spoilers. But I look forward to talking about it once you'..."



Hi, I'll be glad to participate to the discussion: the book is amazing!

Ciao

Antonella


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ns (vedi) Josh wrote: "Last Line -- Fox (Excellent, despite wacko plot)

Does anything on that novella indicate that it's the first book of a series?

Because it is. And I think it really does matter that this be in..."


Did not know that. Nothing appeared to suggest that, actually.


message 3562: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments Last Line: there was at least a criptic comment of Anzhel about Quin, I asked Harper about it, and she confirmed that it was a reference to the sequel.


Emanuela ~plastic duck~ (manutwo) | 1768 comments Elena wrote: "I'm Italian too although I live abroad."

Ciao!!! I wonder when we'll see a translation for Josh's books. In my wildest dreams there's Adrien English translated in Italian and I am recommending it like mad! :-)


message 3564: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments Emanuela ~Zstyx~ wrote: "Elena wrote: "I'm Italian too although I live abroad."

Ciao!!! I wonder when we'll see a translation for Josh's books. In my wildest dreams there's Adrien English translated in Italian and I am ..."


In theory it would be nice, I'm all in favor of ''spreading the Verb''.

But I'm a translator and I don't like to read translated books ;-), at least in the languages I can read. I just can't imagine Josh in Italian! Imagine all that would get lost in translation...

Ciao

A

PS: Io vengo dal lago di Como e tu? Se non è un segreto...


Emanuela ~plastic duck~ (manutwo) | 1768 comments Elena wrote: "But I'm a translator and I don't like to read translated books ;-), at least in the languages I can read. I just can't imagine Josh in Italian! Imagine all that would get lost in translation..."

I totally agree, but those who can't read English are missing everything, poor people ;-)



Sono di Rovigo, non è un segreto, lol


message 3566: by mc (new)

mc | 1308 comments Oh, let's all take a trip to Italy!

I did a writer's retreat there once - I retreated more than I wrote, but it was spectacular. One of the best countries on Earth, though I wouldn't presume to say I'm the most-traveled person.


message 3567: by Emanuela ~plastic duck~ (last edited Jun 17, 2011 09:56AM) (new)

Emanuela ~plastic duck~ (manutwo) | 1768 comments It's a country blessed with the majority of the work of arts in the world and we are happily neglecting a lot of it. As a consequence, I love New York :-D


message 3568: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments I retreated more than I wrote

LOL! It is a beautiful country, and now maybe we have a chance to get rid of the homophobic idiots of the right wing government!

@Emanuela: Language is a big barrier. Sometimes I read wonderful books (not only m/m ;-), and I notice I can't tell most of my friends to read it because they just cannot read fluently in English, even though they speak the language.

Ciao

Antonella

PS: about secrecy: I asked because for ex. I wasn't ''out'' when I took my LJ name, that's why it is different from my real name


Emanuela ~plastic duck~ (manutwo) | 1768 comments I was wondering about your name! :-)


message 3570: by Liade (last edited Jun 17, 2011 10:39AM) (new)

Liade | 397 comments I'm another non-English translator, and like Antonella I loathe translated books (from English, at least), always wondering what the original words may have been, or even worse, knowing from the translated sentence what they were. Yuck. And sometimes there are glaring mistakes - double yuck.

Translated books are second only to dubbed films - are movies dubbed or subtitled in Italy? Of course, sometimes accepting a dubbed version is the only way for me to watch a movie on the big screen: the first time I watched Brokeback Mountain, Ennis Del Mar spoke German...


Emanuela ~plastic duck~ (manutwo) | 1768 comments Movies in Italy are dubbed.

Translation is sometimes a necessary evil. I'd like to speak Japanese and read Yukio Mishima's words, but I'll content myself with the translation :-)


message 3572: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments Emanuela ~Zstyx~ wrote: "I was wondering about your name! :-)"


Perhaps I should have said that ''out'' means: acknowledging in public the fact that I read and enjoy m/m books. Now I don't have any problem with it, some 4/5 years ago I did ;-)


message 3573: by ns (last edited Jun 17, 2011 06:04PM) (new)

ns (vedi) Wicked Gentlemen -- Hale.

If there's a writer heaven, Ms. Hale will surely one day be in it when her time comes and she'll be sitting on one of those big old gild-plated queen chairs, having her hands kissed by awestruck minions. Er, angels. Whoever. I'm not an authority on what happens in heaven. I'm headed the other way, and that's a fact. Should there be other ways.

Wicked Gentlemen is cool and mysterious and masterful and all things delicious and smoky and brilliantly-faceted, like diamonds sparkling in a dark room, shrouded by a dark gloom that makes them seem ever so much brighter against their surroundings.

I can't adequately describe how this novel just pulled the air out of my lungs and left me feeling dizzy and infused with dark chocolate and smoke.

There's no way she should be able to get any of it to work, right? Demons in regency? Yeah, sure. I can hear them now, the ghosts of thousands upon thousands of the readerless unpublished screaming "no, don't do it.." Oh but WAIT! They're *flying* demonish humans, you say? ALWAYS a winner as a plot device, what, and the stuff of literary gems?

None of this should work, should it?

Why does it feel as though one of the main plot points is still the fact that a poor nice man's wife seems to have *cheated* on him? Yes, of course. More winning gold, thaar.

None of this should *work*.

And bathe all of that in a Darkness at Noon notion of a society that would have made Koestler proud (and Orwell, and Manna Francis, for that matter) and yes, of course, it all makes *So Much Sense.*

And yet, when you're prowling her sentences and exiting her paragraphs, there's a small feeling that it's Somerset Maugham in Painted Veil, or Koestler, or someone like that looking over your shoulder and saying, "hey, this is my book."

It all just flows so well and builds a tight, intense, coherent whole that is shaped just right and smells just right and feels just right and sounds just right and by god, looks so right that the word pleasure just doesn't come anywhere near describing it.

Your experience of reading this book might very likely be rather different, all told, but in this case, I can only commiserate. I consider myself the luckiest reader in life...


message 3574: by Anne (new)

Anne Tenino (annetenino) | 3156 comments ns wrote: "Wicked Gentlemen -- Hale.

If there's a writer heaven, Ms. Hale will surely one day be in it when her time comes and she'll be sitting on one of those big old gild-plated queen chairs, having her ..."


I love your reviews, ns. :)


message 3575: by ns (new)

ns (vedi) Anne wrote: "I love your reviews, ns. :) "

Hey, thanks! :)


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Calathea | 6034 comments ns wrote: "It all just flows so well and builds a tight, intense, coherent whole that is shaped just right and smells just right and feels just right and sounds just right"

The setting was awesome, wasn't it? I was right there and could see and feel it all. I felt like I was in Belimais head and flying with him was like flying in my dreams. But then... well, the POV changed and it threw me completely. It was sad because it lost a lot of intensity for me. I wanted to stay with Belimai and watch him grow.
Nevertheless it's a great reading experience! :-)


message 3577: by Anne (new)

Anne Tenino (annetenino) | 3156 comments Calathea wrote: "ns wrote: "It all just flows so well and builds a tight, intense, coherent whole that is shaped just right and smells just right and feels just right and sounds just right"

The setting was awesome..."


Okay, you two talked me into it. I'll put it on my too read list, where it will languish with everyone else...


message 3578: by ns (new)

ns (vedi) Calathea wrote: "It was sad because it lost a lot of intensity for me. I wanted to stay with Belimai and watch him grow."

Yes, you feel Belimai's loss sharply, don't you? However, getting into the good Inquisitor was worth the sacrifice (rephrase that in your mind so it doesn't sound dirty, please).


message 3579: by ns (new)

ns (vedi) Anne wrote: "Okay, you two talked me into it. I'll put it on my too read list, where it will languish with everyone else... "

I think you'll like it, Anne. Let us know if you do.


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Calathea | 6034 comments ns wrote: "(rephrase that in your mind so it doesn't sound dirty, please)"

Can't, too late for that... ;-)) *giggel*


message 3581: by Anne (new)

Anne Tenino (annetenino) | 3156 comments ns wrote: "Anne wrote: "Okay, you two talked me into it. I'll put it on my too read list, where it will languish with everyone else... "

I think you'll like it, Anne. Let us know if you do."


I'll let you know, but it could be a while.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
ns wrote: "Did not know that. Nothing appeared to suggest that, actually.
"


Same thing with Rough Magic. I don't know why Loose Id doesn't want to indicate a series with the first book because it really does affect how readers approach the book. The first book in a series is going to be different from a standalone. It has to be. The only time it isn't is when the author decides after the fact that they're writing a series (and there's usually a fair bit of scrambling to introduce problems and conflicts after the fact).


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Emanuela ~Zstyx~ wrote: "Elena wrote: "I'm Italian too although I live abroad."

Ciao!!! I wonder when we'll see a translation for Josh's books. In my wildest dreams there's Adrien English translated in Italian and I am ..."


:-D


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
I love your reviews, ns. :)

I concur.


message 3585: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments ns wrote: "Wicked Gentlemen -- Hale.

If there's a writer heaven, Ms. Hale will surely one day be in it when her time comes and she'll be sitting on one of those big old gild-plated queen chairs, having her ..."


What an excellent and felt review!

You are also perfectly expressing my feelings for Ginn's books. I deeply envy your ability to put these feelings into words!

Thank you

Ciao

Antonella


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Blaine (blainedarden) ns wrote: "Wicked Gentlemen -- Hale"

I can only add that I really, really enjoyed reading it.
Great characters, great setting. All around great read :D


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Jaime (jaimeyw) | 4 comments Josh wrote: "It's a very weird political and social climate right now. On one hand you have the passage of something that seems as commonsense and obvious as same-sex marriage and in other places it's one step ..."

That's for sure! Some days I can't tell if our country is moving forwards or backwards. There seems to be very little middle ground in the US right now. People either support gay rights and marriage equality, or they want to roast us alive for who we are and who we love. I feel like we're living inside Sybil's head!

But, I agree with you that a lot of progress has come via popular media and entertainment. And, from well-liked celebrities who aren't afraid to why discrimination (of any kind) is hurtful to a society.

Okay, I'm done! Your post really hit a chord with me. Though, as you know, it doesn't take much to get me going. :-)


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Jaime (jaimeyw) | 4 comments Josh wrote: "Last Line -- Fox (Excellent, despite wacko plot)

Does anything on that novella indicate that it's the first book of a series?

Because it is. And I think it really does matter that this be in..."


I think I read somewhere that there will be a follow up to Last Line. I can't remember if it was at the end of the book, or on the publisher's website. Maybe I'm just making it all up and only assumed there would be a follow up because that made sense to me. :-)


message 3589: by Liade (last edited Jun 18, 2011 07:29AM) (new)

Liade | 397 comments Jaime wrote: "JI think I read somewhere that there will be a follow up to Last Line. I can't remember if it was at the end of the book, or on the publisher's website...."

No indication in the book or on the publisher's website, unfortunately. Harper briefly mentioned it on her LJ, though.


message 3590: by Anne (new)

Anne Tenino (annetenino) | 3156 comments Josh wrote: "ns wrote: "Did not know that. Nothing appeared to suggest that, actually.
"

Same thing with Rough Magic. I don't know why Loose Id doesn't want to indicate a series with the first book because..."


In their submission and writing guidelines on their website, LI states pretty clearly that they aren't particularly interested in series. It's one of the reasons I didn't submit to them.


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Cleon Lee | 2235 comments Anne wrote: "Josh wrote: "ns wrote: "Did not know that. Nothing appeared to suggest that, actually.
"

Same thing with Rough Magic. I don't know why Loose Id doesn't want to indicate a series with the first bo..."


With new authors maybe, but Josh? Harper Fox?


message 3592: by Anne (new)

Anne Tenino (annetenino) | 3156 comments @Cleon -- I can't imagine they'd turn down a series from either of them, but they just don't seem to be into series in general.


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Cleon Lee | 2235 comments Anne wrote: "@Cleon -- I can't imagine they'd turn down a series from either of them, but they just don't seem to be into series in general."

Heidi's the Seventh Veil is also the first part of the series and it's published by Loose ID, so I think that the rule is for new authors.


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Anne Tenino (annetenino) | 3156 comments Cleon wrote: "Anne wrote: "@Cleon -- I can't imagine they'd turn down a series from either of them, but they just don't seem to be into series in general."

Heidi's the Seventh Veil is also the first part of the..."


Maybe they're only into series they know they can sell. LOL


message 3595: by Heather C (new)

Heather C (heathercook) I finished Zero at the Bone (Zero at the Bone, #1) by Jane Seville . what a great book!


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Liade | 397 comments Anne wrote: "Cleon wrote: "Anne wrote: "@Cleon -- I can't imagine they'd turn down a series from either of them, but they just don't seem to be into series in general."

Heidi's the Seventh Veil is also the fir..."


The Bellingham Mysteries by Nicole Kimberling are also published by Loose Id.


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Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Anne wrote: "@Cleon -- I can't imagine they'd turn down a series from either of them, but they just don't seem to be into series in general."

That's true. They aren't. With a couple of exceptions, series books don't tend to do well for them.


message 3598: by Josh (last edited Jun 18, 2011 08:29AM) (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
It's not that they won't do series, but they don't encourage them and they try to cap them at five books.

Do they have weak results because they don't know how to handle series books? Or do they not bother to market and promote series books because they perform weakly? It's kind of chicken and egg thing.

edited to add: Come to think of it they asked me to do an exclusive series for them which was how the Jack of Swords idea came up. Then I scratched that and changed it for This Rough Magic. (I think coming from me historical mystery will be more popular than fantasy.)

So it's not that they won't do series, but they don't generally encourage the idea.


message 3599: by Anne (new)

Anne Tenino (annetenino) | 3156 comments Josh wrote: "It's not that they won't do series, but they don't encourage them and they try to cap them at five books.

Do they have weak results because they don't know how to handle series books? Or do they..."


Do you know how they perform for other publishers?


message 3600: by Anne (new)

Anne Tenino (annetenino) | 3156 comments Heather C wrote: "I finished Zero at the Bone (Zero at the Bone, #1) by Jane Seville. what a great book!"

This is a great book. Have you read Shades of Gray? Earlier someone made the comment that they don't know why everyone seems to lump these two books together -- I don't know why I do, they aren't that similar. I just somehow managed to read them one right after the other, and for me they're always tied together.


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