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If you want to know what chefs wear, Nicole is the one to ask. My knowledge of chefs is just eating what they put in front of me.
Dear God. That was unfortunate phrasing.
Dear God. That was unfortunate phrasing.

Dear God. That was unfortunate phrasing."
*zips mouth* *snort*

Dear God. That was unfortunate phrasing."
LOL

Oh, dear.
ROFL
Josh wrote: "If you want to know what chefs wear, Nicole is the one to ask. My knowledge of chefs is just eating what they put in front of me. Maybe chefs do run around in utility kilts in more civilized parts ..."
I know one barista who wears a utility kilt to work. I can't really imagine many chefs wearing kilts, or even skirts, because the shelves in walk-in refrigerators are high enough that you routinely have to climb up a ladder to reach or clearly see the stuff on top. You could see the problem there, right? :)
Chefs generally wear chef pants which are these lightweight baggy things with pegged ankles. Usually they've got this black and white houndstooth-lookin' pattern. Most of the non-chef guys I've cooked with wear cargo or basketball shorts or sometimes board shorts and go commando underneath. HOWEVER: it is actually not that smart to wear short pants or skirts in a commercial kitchen because at any moment gallons of hot shit could spill on your legs or into your shoes. (This is one of the many reasons many pros also wear clogs of some sort.)
That said, a friend of mine once peeked in the back door of a bakery (that shall remain nameless because it is still in operation) during a summertime heatwave and discovered all 10 or so bakers (even the women) were working completely naked except for small white 4-way aprons and flip-flops.
So I guess anything is possible.
I know one barista who wears a utility kilt to work. I can't really imagine many chefs wearing kilts, or even skirts, because the shelves in walk-in refrigerators are high enough that you routinely have to climb up a ladder to reach or clearly see the stuff on top. You could see the problem there, right? :)
Chefs generally wear chef pants which are these lightweight baggy things with pegged ankles. Usually they've got this black and white houndstooth-lookin' pattern. Most of the non-chef guys I've cooked with wear cargo or basketball shorts or sometimes board shorts and go commando underneath. HOWEVER: it is actually not that smart to wear short pants or skirts in a commercial kitchen because at any moment gallons of hot shit could spill on your legs or into your shoes. (This is one of the many reasons many pros also wear clogs of some sort.)
That said, a friend of mine once peeked in the back door of a bakery (that shall remain nameless because it is still in operation) during a summertime heatwave and discovered all 10 or so bakers (even the women) were working completely naked except for small white 4-way aprons and flip-flops.
So I guess anything is possible.
Josh wrote: "If you want to know what chefs wear, Nicole is the one to ask. My knowledge of chefs is just eating what they put in front of me.
Dear God. That was unfortunate phrasing."
heh.
Dear God. That was unfortunate phrasing."
heh.

That's great news Nicole. And I'll be sure to The Irregulars too!:)

Does it help that in the interview Damon says he goes commando while kilt wearing? Maybe this is tmi for here.
Does it help that in the interview Damon says he goes commando while kilt wearing? Maybe this is tmi for here
Nah, pretty much everyone goes commando wearing a kilt.
Nah, pretty much everyone goes commando wearing a kilt.

Uh huh. Obviously someone who never tried to buy a kilt. ;-)"
A lot of them have them made. I used to date a firefighter that wanted me to make him a kilt. Fortunately the relationship didn't last.


This is on my to-buy list. Is it good?"
I..."
It's a ceremonial thing. If there's a firefighter funeral (especially if they died on the job), a bunch of firefighters usually show up in kilts. We used to go to an awards dinner every year, and at the end a piper in kilt would play the pipes while they read off the "Roll Call" -- all the firefighters and other EMS members who died during the year.
It's because so many firefighters on the east coast used to be Scots. Now it's just one of those weird, traditional things.
That said, a friend of mine once peeked in the back door of a bakery (that shall remain nameless because it is still in operation) during a summertime heatwave and discovered all 10 or so bakers (even the women) were working completely naked except for small white 4-way aprons and flip-flops.
I love that story! It's like the Elves and the Shoemaker. Only...not. :-D
I love that story! It's like the Elves and the Shoemaker. Only...not. :-D

Legs.
This kilt talk reminded me of the Welsh andN old joke:
How does the Welsh find their sheep in the tall grass?
..."
LMAO
Guys in kilts are seriously sexy.
We have the same thing here with police. In fact, LAPD has its own pipe band. They're not made up of cops, for the most part. They play at funerals, etc.

Yeah, that's it exactly. It's kind of a nice tradition -- when you go to a funeral for an officer or firefighter, it sort of sets it apart from the average funeral.
Actually, bagpipes make me tear up, now.
ETA: It makes it hard to get through a funeral without checking out the pipers though. They always pick the guy with great legs.

LOVE that image. It would be a great bedtime story. :)

Rifter 4 -- Hale (Wow. Damn. Holy Cow)
Mann of My Dreams -- Tinnean (Fun Read, Entertaining)
Last Line -- Fox (Excellent, despite wacko plot)
Bellingham Mystery Series -- Kimberling (Excellent, loved, loved them)
Ghost Star Night -- Kimberling (Excellent, loved it)
Red Thread of Forever -- Kimberling (Excellent, loved it)
Wicked Gentlemen -- Hale (Beyond exquisite. Absolutely, heart-breakingly beautiful. Initiate plan to abduct author and make her write stories for me tied up in my basement. Wait, I don't have a basement. Rats...)
All of the above need elaborating, which I'll try and do at some point. Really. Pinky Swear. I have to run, now.
All of the above need elaborating, which I'll try and do at some point. Really. Pinky Swear. I have to run, now.
I'm starting to suspect her of living a double life at some OTHER writer's community. ;-)
I'm starting to suspect her of living a double life at some OTHER writer's community. ;-)

Gives whole new meaning to the phrase 'hot cross buns.'
I was once in downtown Manhattan (I live in NYC, if you haven't figured it out yet) on a brutally cold day - teens, with awful wind chills. I was wrapped up like a weeble and trying to run against the wind toward the train, and I heard the most mournful and beautiful bagpipes. I started to search for the source, and given the location and the echo, it took me a while to find this guy - kilt, sporran and all, standing in that frigid weather, while everyone fast-walked by him - I found some money to toss in his bag and seriously went off in the best mood ever. There's something about bagpipes that sounds like it squeezes your soul.
One of my favorite regular musicians is a saxophonist in Central Park, coincidentally not far from the Robert Burns statue.
I really need to check the Rifters series out.
ns, glad you liked Mann of My Dreams. Good to see you here again.
I probably shouldn't be here. There was a bit of wine imbibing tonight.
Edited to add:
By the way, the New York State Assembly passed the same-sex marriage bill. It will be in front of the State Senate on Friday, and with one more state senator to support it, it will likely pass. Yay!

Yay is right! My state (Indiana) actually passed a second law to prevent gay marriage earlier this year. So now we have two. One more reason why I really hate living here.

Really, I shouldn't be allowed to post here right now.

That's such good news! I wish our legislature would pull their heads out and get with the program.

You should be a travel agent. That sounds like the ultimate holiday!

I live in Manhattan, but even if I didn't, this is fantastic news. Fingers and toes crossed for the State Senate outcome.
It's a very weird political and social climate right now. On one hand you have the passage of something that seems as commonsense and obvious as same-sex marriage and in other places it's one step from martial law.
There seems to be such a strange...cultural schism in this country.
This is why I think that the popularity of gay and m/m fiction with mainstream readers is, overall, such a very positive thing. Because, in my opinion, more societal change evolves through venues of mass entertainment -- movies, TV, music, books, comics -- than all the non-fiction and literary fiction in the world put together.
If you've got a message, put it where the average person can easily find it. Make that message so entertaining there doesn't seem to *be* a message.
Some do it with guns and bombs. Some do it with legislation. Some do it with library books and movie tickets.
That's my philosophical observation for the day, week, month. ;-)
There seems to be such a strange...cultural schism in this country.
This is why I think that the popularity of gay and m/m fiction with mainstream readers is, overall, such a very positive thing. Because, in my opinion, more societal change evolves through venues of mass entertainment -- movies, TV, music, books, comics -- than all the non-fiction and literary fiction in the world put together.
If you've got a message, put it where the average person can easily find it. Make that message so entertaining there doesn't seem to *be* a message.
Some do it with guns and bombs. Some do it with legislation. Some do it with library books and movie tickets.
That's my philosophical observation for the day, week, month. ;-)
Last Line -- Fox (Excellent, despite wacko plot)
Does anything on that novella indicate that it's the first book of a series?
Because it is. And I think it really does matter that this be indicated -- I think it makes the difference between a reader feeling like...WTH? and Oh. Okay. To Be Continued.
Does anything on that novella indicate that it's the first book of a series?
Because it is. And I think it really does matter that this be indicated -- I think it makes the difference between a reader feeling like...WTH? and Oh. Okay. To Be Continued.

Well, on a lighter note, did you see the quote of the day?
"Reading is the sole means by which we slip, involuntarily, often helplessly, into another's skin, another's voice, another's soul."
— Joyce Carol Oates
So true. That's what happened to me - and probably to many of us - the night before last reading Come Unto These Yellow Sands :-D
I really need to check the Rifters series out.
I think so. I find Ginn's work...I don't know. Something about it grabs me by the throat. I was thinking about it this morning because we're sort of spotting each other for this BEB anthology we're doing. Even when she handles something not the way I would handle it, there's a power there, an emotional...reach that still grabs me.
Her work just really gets to me.
I think so. I find Ginn's work...I don't know. Something about it grabs me by the throat. I was thinking about it this morning because we're sort of spotting each other for this BEB anthology we're doing. Even when she handles something not the way I would handle it, there's a power there, an emotional...reach that still grabs me.
Her work just really gets to me.

I love that quote! And I don't even want to think about tolerance in my country. There are still some people here think that blowing people up is an acceptable form of devotion to God, so I'll settle with them NOT blowing people off first. lol.


Where do you see the 'quote' each day?

Okay... ? Um... how should I respond to this? If you want to take a jab at my country, go ahead, it's not as if we're blind to its fault. If you think I said something inappropriate, please tell me. I am not going to be offended.


Oh. lol. Well, my country is lovely when people don't blow each other up. :P
I was afraid I offended someone or something... Ok, I'll wait for your mail. :D
Cleon wrote: "Emanuela ~Zstyx~ wrote: "I don't think I'll ever see same-sex marriage in Italy in my life. When I think that Spain - a Catholic country like ours - approved it, I feel my blood boil. I am so disap..."
I know. It's easy to complain -- and then you look at the rest of the world. We actually fall into a comfortable middle ground.
I know. It's easy to complain -- and then you look at the rest of the world. We actually fall into a comfortable middle ground.

Where do you see the 'quote' each day?"
On the bottom right column of the GR home page.

I love that quote, and it rang true for me at the moment.
I can empathize with you over same-sex marriage. We had it for a short period of time in our county, but then our state legislature put their foot down. Then voters actually passed a defense of marriage act. I was so pissed.

Does anything on that novella indicate that it's the first book of a series?
Because it is. And I think it really does matter that this be in..."
Yes! When I read it I didn't know it was the first in the series finding out that there will be sequels made a whole lot of difference. On the other hand I hate reading first books in the series with too much setting up, too many loose ends or even cliffhangers - which wasn't the case here, IMO.

Yes, it's true. Just being allowed to complain about something is a privilege when compared to the situation somewhere.

Where do you see the 'quote' each day?"
On the bottom right column of the GR home page."
Thank you. I almost never go to the GR Home page. I open onto Q&A with JL, but I will be sure to check it now. Thanks again.

Here in Sweden, the discussion is a little different. What basically constitutes same-sex marriage, has been legal for maybe ten years? It's not called marriage, though. It's called partnership. Now the debate is whether gay people should have equal rights when it comes to church weddings. It's a tough question. Gay people already have the right to be married in church if they want to; this law would force ministers, who are against gay marriage, to perform the ceremony, going against their beliefs. Like I said, it's a tough question if we also want to have freedom of religion. Where to draw the line?
Anyway, I was thrilled to hear about NY!

I don't take the credits personally but I can't help being proud that the Netherlands became the first nation in the world to grant gay marriage.
I just found out that this is the first in modern times. The first documented same sex marriage took place in Spain in the year 1061. According to Wikipedia they were married by a priest at a small chapel :)

Did it say where in Spain? I suppose I could just go look...
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