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message 12701: by Aleksandr (last edited Apr 03, 2013 03:59AM) (new)

Aleksandr Voinov (vashtan) Johanna - I "parodied" that type (lovingly) in Country Mouse and City Mouse - Malcolm is a market maker. I got a kick out of putting in all the financial services references. But, yeah. My guy worked at a brokerage, and he HATES the type. My guy hates almost nothing or nobody, he's a mellow, gentle, very sweet quiet type, but those guys...

Darkm - Absolutely. I'm blessed with a physique that tells everybody if they take me down, I'll do significant damage to them in return. I can't really imagine what it feels like to not have that asset. That said, I think it makes sense overall to do self-defense - not to fight, but to be comfortable even when things might shift or get tingly. Even my martial arts teachers always told us to rather run than fight, but IF you have to stand and fight, then pretty much pull out all the stops. Knowing HOW to do that really helps.

Also, the martial arts that I would recommend (Aikido first, because it has a very wellnessy approach to the body - we spent half the lesson just stretching our tendons and muscles, then Wendo/Wu-Shu, which friends of mine had excellent results with, Wu-Shu being the "harder" version, Jiu-Jitsu/Judo (Judo being the softer version), or even boxing) have a fitness/health/flexibility aspect.

Granted, looking at another human being with the "how will I subdue/break him" eyes can be unpleasant, for me it's a purely analytical exercise, assessing their weaknesses, their readiness, and from what angle to take them on. That said, Sun Tsu says true mastery in war is to NOT fight (aka: prevention, preparation, readiness), so I'd never go out there LOOKING for trouble. but if trouble finds me )or a friend), I'm pretty ready. It's fascinating stuff.


message 12702: by Darkm (new)

Darkm | 252 comments I wanted to try the test too, but I found myself in the ridiculous situation that I don't really know the answer to many of those "questions".

Anyway, this is what I got:
You scored 55 out of 100 masculine points, 63.333 out of 100 feminine points, and 61.111 out of 100 androgynous (neutral) points.
It fits probably, since I see myself as androgynous rather than male or female.


message 12703: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov (vashtan) Johanna - At least financial services pay well and have a good package, which is the main reason why I'm still there and might keep working for a few more years. It beats all alternatives.


message 12704: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 77 comments Aleksandr -- Loved the book and however you posted the hyper links was perfect because I cannot see the book cover hyper links on my kindle fire or droid.
Here is a gem. My last brokerage was literally all male managers who who I sh*t you not throw a football around ever morning in the quad -- you have the ball you have the floor. It would have been more offensive if it hadn't been so pathetic.

I make a mean potluck but one of my few female co workers advised me in the beginning to avoid traditional female jobs like cooking getting cards for birthdays and it stood me in good stead. My first boss asked on my first day if I wanted to be in charge of morale and team building like planning potlucks and decorating... I said, why no not especially. Yes he was shocked.


message 12705: by Darkm (new)

Darkm | 252 comments Aleksandr wrote: "Johanna - I "parodied" that type (lovingly) in Country Mouse and City Mouse - Malcolm is a market maker. I got a kick out of putting in all the financial services references. But, yeah. My guy work..."

I hear you and I agree.
I had been forbidden from all martial arts when I was growing up because they feared for my back, but nowadays it's something on my to-do list.
I figure the same way I managed to lift weights and run more than 10 km, if I put my mind to that I can do that too.
Feeling helpless or worse having to rely on someone else really doesn't sit well with me :)


message 12706: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments Aleksandr wrote: "Interesting. I'm 82.5 male, 47.5 female, and 55 androgynous. No surprise there, really."

I scored 83.3 out of 100 masculine points, 70 out of 100 feminine points, and 52.5 out of 100 androgynous points. I admit I have some issues with ''feminine'' traits...


message 12707: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments Darkm wrote: "I was recently reading about a German city, trying to find if there were dangerous areas at night and it was a ludicrous question for those living there.
Well here it's really not ludicrous at all. "


Italy is no country for women lately...

I think TV played a big role in this. Look at this free documentary. It was made by team of 3 persons, guided by Lorella Zanardo, which viewed 400 hours of TV programs before selecting 24 minutes to realize ''Il corpo delle donne'' (Women Body). It gives an idea of the women's image on Italian TV. It has English subtitles:
http://www.ilcorpodelledonne.net/?pag...

Please notice that TV is the main font of information fort the standard Italian family.


message 12708: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments Kestrel's Chance by Harper Fox is available:

Kindle on amazon: $5.38
Kindle on smashwords: $ 4.99
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/...


message 12709: by KC (new)

KC | 4897 comments Hj wrote: Please could you put up t..."

http://www.knitculture.com/our-blog/w...

:)


message 12710: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 77 comments thanks, she is on the must buy list. I will report back later!


message 12711: by KC (new)

KC | 4897 comments Interesting test... apparently i'm 54% masculine, 69% feminine, and 62.5% androgynous this morning. I'm wondering what the result will be if i try again in a week when i've forgotten my answers. It was difficult to decide on some of the traits... something to think about irrespective of roles, etc.


message 12712: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments KC wrote: "Interesting test... apparently i'm 54% masculine, 69% feminine, and 62.5% androgynous this morning."

I liked you adding ''this morning'' ;-).


message 12713: by KC (new)

KC | 4897 comments Antonella wrote: "KC wrote: "Interesting test... apparently i'm 54% masculine, 69% feminine, and 62.5% androgynous this morning."

I liked you adding ''this morning'' ;-)."


:)


message 12714: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Wow, you guys have been busy discussing — very interesting discussion, too!

(... and I thought that we Finns have bad drinking habits... *grin*)


message 12715: by Susinok (new)

Susinok | 5205 comments Johanna wrote: "My first boss asked on my first day if I wanted to be in charge of morale and team building like planning potlucks and decorating... ..."

That would absolutely be my worst nightmare. I hate pot-lucks! I really really do. I work with these people 40 hours a week. I do NOT want to cook for them too! :)


message 12716: by Susinok (new)

Susinok | 5205 comments Antonella wrote: "Kestrel's Chance by Harper Fox is available:

Kindle on amazon: $5.38
Kindle on smashwords: $ 4.99
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/..."


Oh OH ! Got it! Thanks Antonella for the heads-up!


message 12717: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 77 comments oh no I use the same charger for the phone and the kindle. they are both almost dead, I just download the new Harper Fox...

Quick who can teleport a charger


message 12718: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments Johanna wrote: "oh no I use the same charger for the phone and the kindle. they are both almost dead, I just download the new Harper Fox...

Quick who can teleport a charger"


You don't need anybody disturbing you when you are reading, so leave the phone out of the equation ;-)


message 12719: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 77 comments found the charger. whew!
I usually post here from the phone since I hate the touch screen on my Kindle. back to Harper this thread is so shined it distracted me.


message 12720: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 77 comments shiny. the stupid kindle auto corrects.


message 12721: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Susinok wrote: "Antonella wrote: "Kestrel's Chance by Harper Fox is available:

Kindle on amazon: $5.38
Kindle on smashwords: $ 4.99
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/..."

Oh OH ! Got it! Thanks Antonella f..."


Oh... OH...OH!!! It took me even longer to comprehend... ;-)

Thank you, Susinok, for pointing out what Antonella had posted... and thank you, Antonella, for posting it in the first place. :-)

I have SO MANY books waiting to be read now... Gawh, I NEED MORE HOURS in my days!!!


message 12722: by Susinok (new)

Susinok | 5205 comments We're a strong willed bunch of females, aren't we?

I do not have any martial arts training. I've never needed it in my 48 years. I pretty much do NOT look like a victim, despite being short. I stride with purpose, speak with purpose, and don't take any crap.


message 12723: by Charming (new)

Charming (charming_euphemism) 70M 43F 57N
I'm surprised it is only forty years old. Seriously old fashioned.


message 12724: by Charming (last edited Apr 03, 2013 08:43AM) (new)

Charming (charming_euphemism) Katharina wrote: "Definitely! And it's such a slow process, too. But it's still encouraging seeing how different things are now to 20, 30, 40 years ago. Think how it could be in 30 years. I'm really excited to find that out :-D "

It doesn't always go in that direction though.


message 12725: by Darkm (last edited Apr 03, 2013 08:48AM) (new)

Darkm | 252 comments Antonella wrote: "Darkm wrote: "I was recently reading about a German city, trying to find if there were dangerous areas at night and it was a ludicrous question for those living there.
Well here it's really not lud..."


Italy is no country for a lot of things lately.
Sigh.

Susinok wrote: "We're a strong willed bunch of females, aren't we?

I do not have any martial arts training. I've never needed it in my 48 years. I pretty much do NOT look like a victim, despite being short. I str..."


I hear you, but I'm a bit "different" from the norm.
I'm always half daydreaming, lost in my thoughts, and people, as much as I like them, tend to make me nervous, so i have no clue how I am perceived on the outside.


message 12726: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Tharayn wrote: "Josh wrote: "The Don in the movies feels much younger, much more emotional, much less tough and resilient. "

And Timmy like a stupid hysterical little wreck *cough*."


Yep.


message 12727: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
KC wrote: "Tharayn wrote: "Josh wrote: "The Don in the movies feels much younger, much more emotional, much less tough and resilient. "

And Timmy like a stupid hysterical little wreck *cough*."

Hm... I will..."


You just have to look at them as a completely different story and characters -- because they are. They bear little or no resemblance to the books.


message 12728: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Karen wrote: "Susinok wrote: "I wonder. Has Nichole done a Binky essay on The Big Misunderstanding? :) "

Close: The Plot Zombie. http://www.reviewsbyjessewave.com/201......"


Yeah, that pretty much covered it. In fact, that has to be one of my least favorite plot devices. I can't stand characters who don't talk. Who have misunderstandings that could -- should -- be cleared up in thirty seconds worth of normal conversation.


message 12729: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Lou wrote: "Joe wrote: "TSTL?"

Too Stupid To Live.

Poor Dr. Binky. I've grown to love him despite his many flaws."


Ha! And I fear this why Dr. Binky, in all his incarnations, continues to thrive in our genre!


message 12730: by Becky (new)

Becky (fibrobabe) | 1052 comments Aleksandr wrote: "Johanna - I think being an outsider helps with diagnosing alcoholism. My father was a "Pegelsaeufer" (roughly tranlated as "drinker who keeps at a certain level"). So, sober, he was a beast, but fo..."

In the US we'd call him a functional alcoholic. He's able to work and meet responsibilities, but he's still absolutely dependent on alcohol.


message 12731: by Charming (new)

Charming (charming_euphemism) Darkm wrote: "I hear you, but I'm a bit "different" from the norm.
I'm always half daydreaming, lost in my thoughts, and people, as much as I like them, tend to make me nervous, so i have no clue how I am perceived on the outside. "


I am convinced that it has to be the men who change the culture. This ad campaign reduced sexual assaults in Vancouver by 10%:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/b...

This bit really hit home:

Typically, sexual assault awareness campaigns target potential victims/women by urging women to restrict their behaviour. We know through our work at Battered Women's Support Services and research confirms that women are, on a daily basis, taking remarkable steps to prevent victimization, and that targeting the behaviour of victims is not only ineffective, but also contributes to how much they, the offender and the larger public (including law enforcement and justice system) blame women after the assault.
http://www.theviolencestopshere.ca/db...

There is a same-sex version of the campaign now now too:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/12/...

I don't know why this hasn't been tried for years. Education campaign have reduced smoking and drunk driving. But until this campaign all we ever heard is what women should do to be safe.

BTW I am not trying to attack anyone talking about the victimology stuff here. We all still want to do we can too.


message 12732: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Antonella wrote: "Kestrel's Chance by Harper Fox is available:

Kindle on amazon: $5.38
Kindle on smashwords: $ 4.99
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/..."


What really struck me about this one -- aside from Harper's gorgeous, gorgeous writing -- is the whole climbing milieu. So fresh, so original, so wonderfully captured, as usual, by Harper.


message 12733: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Johanna wrote: "Wow, you guys have been busy discussing — very interesting discussion, too!

(... and I thought that we Finns have bad drinking habits... *grin*)"


Yeah. Seriously. This is a discussion I have no intention of entering into. I'm half Irish. Enough said. I make no apologies.


message 12734: by Becky (new)

Becky (fibrobabe) | 1052 comments I scored "55.833 out of 100 masculine points, 55.833 out of 100 feminine points, and 55 out of 100 androgynous (neutral) points."

At least I'm consistent?


message 12735: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 18130 comments Mod
Josh wrote: "Johanna wrote: "Wow, you guys have been busy discussing — very interesting discussion, too!

(... and I thought that we Finns have bad drinking habits... *grin*)"

Yeah. Seriously. This is a discus..."


Heh. :-)


message 12736: by Johanna (new)

Johanna | 77 comments there may be Irish drinking stereotypes but the are countless truisms about Irish storytelling. I hope I did not offend.


message 12737: by Josh (new)

Josh (joshlanyon) | 23709 comments Mod
Johanna wrote: "there may be Irish drinking stereotypes but the are countless truisms about Irish storytelling. I hope I did not offend."

No no. Not at all. :-) I come from a long line of mostly charming, functional alcoholics. We make good soldiers and better poets. Probably one of the luckiest things that happened to me was an increasing inability to tolerate high quantities of alcohol. Not that I don't try on occasion!


message 12738: by Susinok (new)

Susinok | 5205 comments Josh wrote: "Yeah, that pretty much covered it. In fact, that has to be one of my least favorite plot devices. I can't stand characters who don't talk. Who have misunderstandings that could -- should -- be cleared up in thirty seconds worth of normal conversation. ..."

Same here. I hate characters who don't talk to each other or who storm out in a huff refusing to listen. I just want to smack their heads together.


message 12739: by KC (new)

KC | 4897 comments Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "Yeah, that pretty much covered it. In fact, that has to be one of my least favorite plot devices. I can't stand characters who don't talk. Who have misunderstandings that could -- shou..."

I just find it so exhausting and frustrating when characters do that.


message 12740: by Tina (last edited Apr 03, 2013 11:19AM) (new)

Tina | 380 comments Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "Yeah, that pretty much covered it. In fact, that has to be one of my least favorite plot devices. I can't stand characters who don't talk. Who have misunderstandings that could -- shou..."

I think this is used in movie and television shows a lot too. Often I'll find myself saying to the person I'm watching something with: Well why don't they just tell them what really happened?! or Why don't they just tell them what they really meant?! And then the person I'm with always says, "If they did that, then the movie would be over."


message 12741: by KC (new)

KC | 4897 comments Josh wrote: "KC wrote: "Tharayn wrote: "Josh wrote: "The Don in the movies feels much younger, much more emotional, much less tough and resilient. "

And Timmy like a stupid hysterical little wreck *cough*."

H..."


I was reading a bit about the movies. So the mystery plot in the movies is different than in the books with the same title?


message 12742: by Katharina (new)

Katharina | 656 comments Juthi wrote: "But 21 seems kind of ridiculous."

Absolutely! :-D We can drink hard liquor here as soon as we're 18, and beer and wine at 16 (or has that changed in the last 10 years? Who knows?).
To be honest, though, I've probably had my hardest drinking nights and parties when I was about 15. By the time I had to get my head together to get good grades for university and then during university itself, I had already lost my interest in partying and drinking all the time. The been there done that kind of thing. Now, it's cocktails or fruit beers every now and then, maybe once or twice a month.
My parents must think it pretty odd, though, 'cause they have taken very much to the Italian life style - and drink good Italian wine almost every day ;)


message 12743: by Susinok (new)

Susinok | 5205 comments I "became legal age" twice. I turned 18 when the drinking age was 18, then at 19 the law was changed to 21.

It didn't matter much at the time. I didn't drink much until a bit later.

I thought Germany had it right. Let them drink at 16, but don't let them drive until 18.


message 12744: by Katharina (new)

Katharina | 656 comments Susinok wrote: "I thought Germany had it right. Let them drink at 16, but don't let them drive until 18."

That's our motto. Drink all you want, but stay off the streets :-D


message 12745: by Matthias (new)

Matthias Williamson (matthiasw) | 340 comments You scored 82m/60f/69an

Though I was told that I'm systematic at finding better systems. So some of it was hard to place exactly.

Probably because I'm very neutral on a lot of things.


message 12746: by Susinok (new)

Susinok | 5205 comments Joe wrote: "You scored 82m/60f/69an

Though I was told that I'm systematic at finding better systems. So some of it was hard to place exactly.

Probably because I'm very neutral on a lot of things."


So you, me, and Aleks score similarly.

That's fascinating to me.

I was neutral on a lot of things too. Probably the feminine traits. Negative on the "likes children". :)


message 12747: by Matthias (new)

Matthias Williamson (matthiasw) | 340 comments Susinok wrote: "Negative on the "likes children". :)"

I was going to hit always hates children, but I sorta like my bf's daughters. Though only sometimes. ;-)


message 12748: by Susinok (new)

Susinok | 5205 comments I didn't do always hate. The one above that. Likes children - rarely. That about sums it up for me.


message 12749: by Antonella (new)

Antonella | 11565 comments Charming wrote: "I am convinced that it has to be the men who change the culture. This ad campaign reduced sexual assaults in Vancouver by 10%"

Thank you! This is what the women's movement always said. I didn't know it was applied and it gave tangible results!


message 12750: by Candice (new)

Candice Frook (cefrook) | 374 comments Susinok wrote: "I just finished The Angel of 13th Street by Eden Winters. For a change, the rentboy business was not glamorized any. Many of these kids did not want to be there and Noah was working on getting them..."

Thanks for the rec. How involving was it? I usually don't care for rentboy stories, and I certainly don't like them glamorized; I agree. Were the mc's very winning? Was the romance particularly appealing?


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