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I have found that I don't like listening to romances in audio, even when professionally produced -- and even though I'm addicted to audiobooks in other genres.
So my odd personal history regarding The Persian Boy is that a long time ago, a friend shared his copy with me after I introduced him to Anne Rice (a whole other story). Years later in the mid-90s I ran across another Mary Renault Alexander book and this kicked off an Alexander "enthusiasm" that went on for several months, where I was reading everything Alexander I could find. And for awhile I could describe key battles, his travels, various theories regarding his death, and of course any mentions of Hephaistion (which were not always easy to find, as historians, ancient or modern, also have their biases). I've forgotten about 90% of it all...

Oh, I thought it was the right pronunciation. The Oxford English dictionary gives
pubes NOUN
BE: ˈpjuːbiːz ˈAE: pjuːbiːz
dildo NOUN
BE: ˈdɪldəʊ AE:ˈdɪldoʊ
Candice wrote: "Hey, folks: Have any of you listened to a kindle story using the "experimental" mode giving computerized voice to the narration? I've been doing it now and then w/a story I may not love but that I..."
:-D
It's hard enough to listen to audio sex scenes without turning everyone into robots!
:-D
It's hard enough to listen to audio sex scenes without turning everyone into robots!
Karen wrote: "So my odd personal history regarding The Persian Boy is that a long time ago, a friend shared his copy with me after I introduced him to Anne Rice (a whole other story). Years later in the mid-90s ..."
Hmm. Now that I think about it, my problem with the Persian Boy was that I had previously read Fire From Heaven, so I was invested in Hephaistion and bitterly resented Bagoas. So while I loved the writing and the research, I disliked the main character.
Hmm. Now that I think about it, my problem with the Persian Boy was that I had previously read Fire From Heaven, so I was invested in Hephaistion and bitterly resented Bagoas. So while I loved the writing and the research, I disliked the main character.
Candice wrote: "Hey, folks: Have any of you listened to a kindle story using the "experimental" mode giving computerized voice to the narration? I've been doing it now and then w/a story I may not love but that I..."
LOL... been there. Done that. Check the rape scene in Aleks Special Forces: Soldiers. It's horrible in that computer voice! That was the unlucky sex scene I tried it out on when I first got my Kindle. Oiy. lol. It's definitely good for a laugh, but not much else.
LOL... been there. Done that. Check the rape scene in Aleks Special Forces: Soldiers. It's horrible in that computer voice! That was the unlucky sex scene I tried it out on when I first got my Kindle. Oiy. lol. It's definitely good for a laugh, but not much else.
Karen wrote: "So my odd personal history regarding The Persian Boy is that a long time ago, a friend shared his copy with me after I introduced him to Anne Rice (a whole other story). Years later in the mid-90s ..."
lol, that sounds a little familiar. Though I'm more interested in anything to do with Bagoas. I don't know... someone showed me a picture of him and i fell head over heals. ... yup. I'm in deep trouble right now. I'm afraid all my characters will wind up with long black hair and beautiful eyes... *sigh*
lol, that sounds a little familiar. Though I'm more interested in anything to do with Bagoas. I don't know... someone showed me a picture of him and i fell head over heals. ... yup. I'm in deep trouble right now. I'm afraid all my characters will wind up with long black hair and beautiful eyes... *sigh*

Though, when I got LASIK and couldn't read (talking same day as operation), I had it read the first draft of Counterpunch to me and that was really useful because I could "hear" where the book really didn't work.
But then, I'm cringing like a fiend when I hear my words spoken out loud. Listening to the audiobook of Lion of Kent was torture, and not the good kind. I still haven't listened to the audio of Dark Edge of Honor because of that.

Something like "I'm sorry, miss." becomes "I'm sorry, mississippi."

I guess I have to read Fire from heaven now, to see how I would feel about Hephaistion. ;)
While reading The Persian boy I did wonder if Alexander loved Bagoas as much as Bagoas loved Alexander. He did keep Hephaistion too, I believe. One thing is in the historical sense whether we can talk about love at all, we don't know that, but also in the book, sometimes I got this feeling that Bagoas needed to think the love was mutual, but the position between them were so very unequal so it might not be the complete truth.
Anne wrote: "Josh wrote: "Karen wrote: "So my odd personal history regarding The Persian Boy is that a long time ago, a friend shared his copy with me after I introduced him to Anne Rice (a whole other story). ..."
I've been wondering about Hephaistion too, but for some reason I feel like going back and reading his book would ruin the second one for me. I don't know.
I got that feeling too. And yet sometimes I felt like it was more equal than what Alexander could admit. Maybe not on the same level as that of Hephaistion, but close? It's just one of those things we'll never really know I guess.
I've been wondering about Hephaistion too, but for some reason I feel like going back and reading his book would ruin the second one for me. I don't know.
I got that feeling too. And yet sometimes I felt like it was more equal than what Alexander could admit. Maybe not on the same level as that of Hephaistion, but close? It's just one of those things we'll never really know I guess.

Something like "I'm sorry, miss." becomes "I'm sorry, mississippi.""
I use TextAloud and for the voice Paul from neospeech. Sounds really good. I convert all my e-books into audio, and me and my ipod are never far apart :)
The story of Alexander and Hephaistion is fascinating, as much for what is included/concluded as omitted/surmised. Not the least of it is that these were men who lived only to their early thirties (Alexander, 356-323 BCE; Hephaistion, 356-324 BCE). It's amazing that so much of their history was recorded and survived. There is disagreement among historians/scholars as to whether their intimate relationship was confined to their youth (per the Athenian custom, as in Renault's novels), or endured for their lifetimes (per the Macedonian/Dorian custom). Plutarch's descriptions of Alexander's grief following Hephaistion's death seems to weigh in towards the Macedonians.

Are you serious? It gave us dillDOE for dildo. And I've just never heard pubes pronounced pyobees. It's making me laugh all over again--although, I have famously gotten some words wrong from childhood and nearly up to my present dotage, so... Nevertheless, I'm pretty sure no young man discovering his sexuality ought to declare himself bee. But, okay; if you say so.

Something like "I'm sorry, miss." becomes "I'm sorry, mississippi.""
I missed that. That's wonderful; I love it.
I've read two absolutely lovely books this week, Tamara Allen's The Only Gold and Julie Bozza's Butterfly Hunter. The first is set in the NYC banking world of the late 1800s, and the second is a contemporary set in the Australian outback. Butterfly Hunter is available from the publisher — you pay in Euros, and wait for a real person to email the file. But totally worth it! The Only Gold was an ebook freebie; I ordered Whistling in the Dark right after I finished it. I need these kind of sweet reads right now.

I'm intrigued by Butterfly Hunter, but I don't want to send payment to any site that I'm not 100% certain is secure. It isn't available through Smashword?

http://www.rainbowebooks.com/store/in... has books from Manifold Press. So maybe it (Butterfly Hunter) will be released to them in a bit? ARE may also have their books...
Cleon wrote: "I'm intrigued by Butterfly Hunter, but I don't want to send payment to any site that I'm not 100% certain is secure. It isn't available through Smashword?"
I used Paypal. I know some don't care to, but for me it's been a very convenient, secure, and an easy way to order directly from e-publishers.
Reggie, I bought the book in response to Feliz's Jessewave review. Here's a quote from Wave's comment post:
Manifold releases two titles only four times a year – February, May, August and November. When the new books come out, the previous month’s books join their stable-companions at All Romance eBooks and Rainbow eBooks.
So it looks like this will be available elsewhere in November, but it was really simple to order via Paypal. An email with the file arrived the next day.
I used Paypal. I know some don't care to, but for me it's been a very convenient, secure, and an easy way to order directly from e-publishers.
Reggie, I bought the book in response to Feliz's Jessewave review. Here's a quote from Wave's comment post:
Manifold releases two titles only four times a year – February, May, August and November. When the new books come out, the previous month’s books join their stable-companions at All Romance eBooks and Rainbow eBooks.
So it looks like this will be available elsewhere in November, but it was really simple to order via Paypal. An email with the file arrived the next day.

Definitely have to read it now, it is so fascinating to think that these people lived and loved and warred so many years ago and still we actually know something about them. And I love the wonder of books and storytellers that can fill in the things we don't know for us :)

I do hope it'll be available on Rainbow eBooks. I'm thinking of setting some budget to buy books again now that I have steady income. LOL.

I think it is important to support small independent publishing houses. I ordered from Manifold in the past and I didn't have any problem. I was surprised once when I almost immediately received the books, having ordered them on a Saturday.
BTW I warmly recommend

It's one of those excellent books one wonders why are not more read...
For the rest during my holidays I've read:
Bound - Megan Derr
Songs for the New Depression - Kergan Edwards-Stout
Speaking Out (anthology edited by Steve Berman)
One Man's Treasure - Nicole Kimberling
Dark Soul 1-5 - Aleksandr Voinov
Continuum - George Seaton
Boystown 2-4 - Marshall Thornton
And reread:
Primal Red, Baby It's Cold Outside, Black Cat Ink by Nicole Kimberling
Icarus, Issue 10, Fall 2011
Circle Of Change by Laney Cairo
All She Wrote by Josh Lanyon (started)
Not too bad, considering that I also did other things ;-)

I think it is important to support small independent publishing houses. I ordered from Manifo..."
Manifold has great reputation and I have a few books I want from them. I've checked their website and they accept Paypal so it's all good. :)
I was longing for something cheery to read and I started First You Fall by Scott Sherman and... bingo! Very delightful. It's been recommended on this thread several times and I bought it among a pile of print books recently.
So, thank you for a great recommendation you guys! :)
So, thank you for a great recommendation you guys! :)

I think it is important to support small independent publishing houses. I ordered from Manifo..."
Someone else on this thread recommended The Definitive Albert J. Sterne a while ago, so I bought it then, it really is very good. Seems like you have had a good reading vacation, that is the best kind :).
Antonella, that was some vacation reading list! I enjoyed your photos from Ireland as well.
I'll definitely look into The Definitive Albert J. Sterne. Thanks for the mentions.
I just finished, then turned around and re-read Parhelion's Dry Bones. Talk about elegant economy — and accomplished with the narrative voice of a cowhand! It makes me wish someone would issue a slim, beautifully designed print copy with a gorgeous cover. (sigh)
I'll definitely look into The Definitive Albert J. Sterne. Thanks for the mentions.
I just finished, then turned around and re-read Parhelion's Dry Bones. Talk about elegant economy — and accomplished with the narrative voice of a cowhand! It makes me wish someone would issue a slim, beautifully designed print copy with a gorgeous cover. (sigh)
Karen wrote: "Antonella, that was some vacation reading list! I enjoyed your photos from Ireland as well.
I'll definitely look into The Definitive Albert J. Sterne. Thanks for the mentions.
I just finished, th..."
Well, Dry Bones is in the anthology
Cowboy Up which I bought in print awhile back. And it does have a very nice cover, if I do say so myself. ;-)
I'll definitely look into The Definitive Albert J. Sterne. Thanks for the mentions.
I just finished, th..."
Well, Dry Bones is in the anthology
Cowboy Up which I bought in print awhile back. And it does have a very nice cover, if I do say so myself. ;-)
Johanna wrote: "I was longing for something cheery to read and I started First You Fall by Scott Sherman and... bingo! Very delightful. It's been recommended on this thread several times and I bought it among a pi..."
You're welcome! I just bought Second You Sin in paperback, but have yet to read it... too many books to read! lol.
You're welcome! I just bought Second You Sin in paperback, but have yet to read it... too many books to read! lol.
Without meaning to, I read the entire anthology Queer Wolf this weekend, switching off reading a short story, then critiquing a few chapters of a friend's novel before reading another short story. I didn't think I'd read the whole thing in one weekend! I figured I'd eventually put it down and pick it back up months from now.
Some of the stories were kinda meh... but there were a few really good ones in there. The reason I bought it was because Ginn Hale has a short story in it, entitled "Shy Hunter" which was good, of course.
Right now I'm reading something that's not M/M: Bullet Work It's a horse racing mystery/crime novel. Not too bad so far, but the author's use of nicknames to avoid telling the reader who certain characters actually are is getting annoying and old. Fast.
Some of the stories were kinda meh... but there were a few really good ones in there. The reason I bought it was because Ginn Hale has a short story in it, entitled "Shy Hunter" which was good, of course.
Right now I'm reading something that's not M/M: Bullet Work It's a horse racing mystery/crime novel. Not too bad so far, but the author's use of nicknames to avoid telling the reader who certain characters actually are is getting annoying and old. Fast.

Jordan wrote: "Well, Dry Bones is in the anthology Cowboy Up which I bought in print awhile back. And it does have a very nice cover, if I do say so myself. ;-) "
It looks like a great cover. Yours? Is it still in print? I couldn't find it on Amazon or Torquere.
It looks like a great cover. Yours? Is it still in print? I couldn't find it on Amazon or Torquere.
Hmmm, I did buy it on Amazon. Here we go: http://www.amazon.com/Cowboy-Up-Rob-K...
And the price went down too! Nice!
And the price went down too! Nice!
So I read some more of Bullet Work last night and couldn't get through it. The author is telling me a lot of boring background info on every character he can, and I doubt all of it's important. So I gave up.
I'm now reading Angel's Ink. This is about a tattoo parlour where you can get spells and charms put into your tattoos. Did you know that vampires scream a lot when they get tattooed? Or that trolls have skin that's too thick for tattoos? So far, this is a really fun read! Looks like it might turn into a het romance, but we'll see.
I'm now reading Angel's Ink. This is about a tattoo parlour where you can get spells and charms put into your tattoos. Did you know that vampires scream a lot when they get tattooed? Or that trolls have skin that's too thick for tattoos? So far, this is a really fun read! Looks like it might turn into a het romance, but we'll see.

If you're enjoying the concept of magical tattoos, you might like
Frost Moon. The MC is a six foot tall, female magical tattoo artist with a mohawk and a moped. (It might have been an actual motorcycle, but I'm remembering a scooter.) It also has the full compliment of creatures you'd expect to see in an urban fantasy-- vampires, werewolves, etc. A little gruesome, but not more than the Anita Blake series was in the older books, before the author dropped the blood and guts for pages and pages of repetitive, unsexy sex.
I read and enjoyed Isabelle Rowan's Ink which has tattoos and vampires, but not exactly magical tattoos.
I read Frost Moon awhile back and wanted to like it, but didn't care for the author's voice — not sure that's the exact term I'm looking for, but it's slightly more descriptive "I didn't like the way it way written."
I read Frost Moon awhile back and wanted to like it, but didn't care for the author's voice — not sure that's the exact term I'm looking for, but it's slightly more descriptive "I didn't like the way it way written."
Jordan wrote: "Hmmm, I did buy it on Amazon. Here we go: http://www.amazon.com/Cowboy-Up-Rob-K...
And the price went down too!..."
Thanks, Jordan. Sometimes I have bad luck (or bad technique) with Amazon searches. I tried my search again and came up with your link, but the first time I'd swear it wasn't there. Maybe I was expecting the sepia-toned cover that comes up on the book's GR page. (I may like that one even more, but it seems it was for an ebook edition.)
And the price went down too!..."
Thanks, Jordan. Sometimes I have bad luck (or bad technique) with Amazon searches. I tried my search again and came up with your link, but the first time I'd swear it wasn't there. Maybe I was expecting the sepia-toned cover that comes up on the book's GR page. (I may like that one even more, but it seems it was for an ebook edition.)


LOL. If it makes you feel better, I've read your review of the book and I approved wholeheartedly.


I really recommend it. Warnings:
- it will break your heart - in an intelligent way, which I suppose it is better than to break it a stupid way. Still, the result is the same.
- don't read the last third of it in a public place.
It is also healing though. See some info about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Monste...

Oh man! I'm trying not to buy anymore books this month. All you great authors are Killing my goal,darn....I'll put it on my must buy list....grumble ;-p

It's worth every penny, trust me. You won't regret it. ;)
Karen wrote: "I read and enjoyed Isabelle Rowan's Ink which has tattoos and vampires, but not exactly magical tattoos.
I read Frost Moon awhile back and wanted to like it, but didn't care for the author's voic..."
I'm almost half way through Angel's Ink, which sadly, doesn't come out until October. I have to say this is a highly recommended MUST READ book. It's got some het romance in it, and is the first in a series, but I'm loving it.
The two parts I fell in love with and laughed my ass off over: The vampires showed up. Two of them in suits. They are part of the organization that makes sure tattoo parlors are clean and up to safety standards and all that stuff. (which is funny all by itself!) They threaten the parlor owner, nearly killing him. The thing that saves him is their OCD. Yep, you throw something (in this case a handful of random buttons) on the floor and vampires must immediately stop what they're doing to frantically organize said buttons into neat rainbow piles.
The other thing... Grim Reapers have a union. yep. This book has everything in it. There are lots of deadly situations, but lots of humor to go with.
Anyway, that's my plug for this non MM book. I'll shut up now, and go read the second half. Don't bother bringing me dinner later. I'm not sure I'll be able to read and eat at the same time with this novel. ;-)
I read Frost Moon awhile back and wanted to like it, but didn't care for the author's voic..."
I'm almost half way through Angel's Ink, which sadly, doesn't come out until October. I have to say this is a highly recommended MUST READ book. It's got some het romance in it, and is the first in a series, but I'm loving it.
The two parts I fell in love with and laughed my ass off over: The vampires showed up. Two of them in suits. They are part of the organization that makes sure tattoo parlors are clean and up to safety standards and all that stuff. (which is funny all by itself!) They threaten the parlor owner, nearly killing him. The thing that saves him is their OCD. Yep, you throw something (in this case a handful of random buttons) on the floor and vampires must immediately stop what they're doing to frantically organize said buttons into neat rainbow piles.
The other thing... Grim Reapers have a union. yep. This book has everything in it. There are lots of deadly situations, but lots of humor to go with.
Anyway, that's my plug for this non MM book. I'll shut up now, and go read the second half. Don't bother bringing me dinner later. I'm not sure I'll be able to read and eat at the same time with this novel. ;-)
Karen wrote: "Jordan wrote: "Hmmm, I did buy it on Amazon. Here we go: http://www.amazon.com/Cowboy-Up-Rob-K...
And the price..."
Glad you found it!
I actually just had a similar experience with Amazon. Except I've already bought the book I didn't really want. Just found the version I do available at a local book store, so I'll have to return my copy and go buy the other one tomorrow. Oiy. Next time someone needs to remind me to actually LOOK at the size measurements of a book before I buy it! I bought a monster, when I knew there were dwarfs available. lol.
And the price..."
Glad you found it!
I actually just had a similar experience with Amazon. Except I've already bought the book I didn't really want. Just found the version I do available at a local book store, so I'll have to return my copy and go buy the other one tomorrow. Oiy. Next time someone needs to remind me to actually LOOK at the size measurements of a book before I buy it! I bought a monster, when I knew there were dwarfs available. lol.
Antonella wrote: "I've just read
. A children's book dealing with grief and loss.
I really recommend it. Warnings:
- it will break your heart - in an intelligent way, which I suppose it ..."
That's really good to know! It sounds like a fantastic book, and thankfully, our library has a dozen copies, so I can conserve my money. Woot!
I must add... what is up with all these writers writing such amazingly fantabulous books?!?! Do they want me to go broke and become homeless? lol. ;-) At least I only have a thing for buying books. It could be worse. I could really enjoy buying cows. I hear those are expensive!

I really recommend it. Warnings:
- it will break your heart - in an intelligent way, which I suppose it ..."
That's really good to know! It sounds like a fantastic book, and thankfully, our library has a dozen copies, so I can conserve my money. Woot!
I must add... what is up with all these writers writing such amazingly fantabulous books?!?! Do they want me to go broke and become homeless? lol. ;-) At least I only have a thing for buying books. It could be worse. I could really enjoy buying cows. I hear those are expensive!

It is a wonderful book, and so are the illustrations, although IMO they are targeting a more adult public. Or maybe it is only my idea.
I'll have to take a look at it tomorrow if it's on shelf. We have it cataloged for teens. Though these days more and more adults are discovering and falling in love with teen literature!

For a while I joked that - based on the recommendations I was getting - amazon thought I was a gay Zen monk with children: I had a strong interest for Zen some years ago, and also for m/m and I often buy children books.
LOL! Isn't it interesting to see all the combinations of things people buy and the interests they have? ... makes me wonder what Amazon thinks of me... hmmm
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The love scenes are absolutely hilarious. It isn't just the fact that the computer has zero interpretive skills and, in fact, "reads" the language like I would Swahili. But the pronunciations are priceless. It pronounces pubes PYOO BEES; bi, as in bisexual, as BEE; dildo is dill-DOE. So, the character says "Oh, no. Bee. I'm bee." Or his pyoobees responded to the dillDOE. I can't stand it.
You have got to try it.