Does anyone think that Dally was gay for Johnny?

[Miah]

See you're bringing in ~*OBVIOUS*~ details and studies to something I've already mentioned, therefore, it's not relevant. I referred to the other members of the outsiders who loved Johnny just as much and they didn't kill themselves. Once again, I am suggesting Dally loved Johnny not more, not less, but in a... different... way. To put it lightly. You, for some reason, have a problem with that idea. Why?

That's my question to you.

Why?

[Miah]

Your only answer to that question has been "because the author said so." As if it has anything to do with the broad spectrum as you put it of literary theory.

And going back to the paper or study I didn't quote, was it the one from Frankenstein, because I can cite and source it and more theories. Those essays are all in front of the Barnes and noble publishing edition of Frankenstein. Let me know :)

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "Once again, I am suggesting Dally loved Johnny not more, not less, but in a... different... way."

You have not given any evidence whatsoever besides repeating that he did. I don't find it convincing. Most conversations on Goodreads are evidence-based. Not about name-calling, swearing, and insisting on your interpretation such are your contributions.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "And going back to the paper or study I didn't quote, was it the one from Frankenstein, because I can cite and source it and more theories. Those essays are all in front of the Barnes and noble publishing edition of Frankenstein. Let me know :) "

A long, tedious story about an essay on Frankenstein you read doesn't count as a study. It's not evidence having to do with the question at hand. You haven't given any evidence at all.

[Miah]

Those essays have everything to do with the question at hand! The validity of Literary Theory and weather or not it defends the argument of Dally being gay for Johnny. If you don't like swearing go somewhere the fuck else. I'm not particularly fond of your pretension!

You're not answering my question!

WHY!?

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "Those essays have everything to do with the question at hand! The validity of Literary Theory and weather or not it defends the argument of Dally being gay for Johnny. If you don't like swearing go..."

No, they don't. It gives no evidence as to why Dally might be gay. You have not given any evidence. You have no logical point.

[Miah]

That was not the question in the first place! The question was whether or not we THINK Dally was gay. Use your context clues. Do I have to bring it back to first grade?!

You have no evidence to suggest that he wasn't which could be used as evidence to prove that he was. Maybe he's bi!? You're so narrow minded. Get out!

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "That was not the question in the first place! The question was whether or not we THINK Dally was gay. Use your context clues. Do I have to bring it back to first grade?! "

There are valuable lessons to be learned in first grade: how to converse politely, how to disagree respectfully, how to stay on topic, how to use a comma properly. I'm not sure you are in the position of having mastered these skills enough to teach them.

[Miah]

Avoiding the question because you're offended. Pathetic.

[Mickey]

It's also around that age when people generally realize that throwing a fit is unseemly and-far from being a sign of strength-is actually an indication of a lack of self-control.

[Miah]

Cry me a river, it's the internet. I like to call myself a provocateur!!! Still avoiding the question and you want the last word. Childish as hell.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "Cry me a river, it's the internet. I like to call myself a provocateur!!! Still avoiding the question and you want the last word. Childish as hell."

You need some new cliches. You've already used the first. Not to mention that first sentence is a comma splice.

[Miah]

You're right! I should've used a semicolon or a period. You're a grammar nazi as well as an anal bead. Nice.

[Miah]

Still avoiding the "Why?" Question, though.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "You're right! I should've used a semicolon or a period. You're a grammar nazi as well as an anal bead. Nice."

You actually don't have to be either to understand basic punctuation. I usually don't correct people, but I figure since you are so deep into the delusion of your intellectual and moral superiority to others, that I would do you a favor and help you out. Perhaps your next outbreak of self-righteous indignation doesn't have to be as riddled with errors. There are few things more ridiculous than a person who can't write simple sentences correctly calling someone else an idiot.

[Miah]

Actually, you're correcting me because you're bitter and won't answer the question "why?" because you're homophobic. It's hilariously embarrassing on your part. The argument is over. I'm done with you. You're so easy to rile up and even easier to beat at debate.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "Actually, you're correcting me because you're bitter and won't answer the question "why?" because you're homophobic. It's hilariously embarrassing on your part. The argument is over. I'm done with ..."

And the delusions continue...

[Miah]

I'm not delusional in the fact that you refuse to answer the question of "Why can't he be queer?" and you're really trying for the last word. Yikes.

[Mickey]

You have no idea how you come across to others, Jeremiah, if you think you did anything but embarrass yourself on here.

[Miah]

I don't give a flying FUCK about what people think about me! I care about what the have to say and their right to say it! You're the one who is telling people they're wrong and won't answer my question!!! Goodbye.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "I don't give a flying FUCK about what people think about me! I care about what the have to say and their right to say it! You're the one who is telling people they're wrong and won't answer my question!!! Goodbye."

This is another fantasy: Jeremiah-the inexhaustible defender of free speech and minority rights, which he accomplishes by shutting down conversation and shouting abuse. You are obviously a great humanitarian and work selflessly so others can have a voice.

Deep down, you know this isn't what was happening here.

[Miah]

How the fuck am I shutting down conversation when you won't answer my question!? Fuck you! If my words offend you maybe you belong in a Monastery where you won't here them!

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "How the fuck am I shutting down conversation when you won't answer my question!? Fuck you! If my words offend you maybe you belong in a Monastery where you won't here them!"

Look! It's another question that I don't have to answer!

[Miah]

Bitch it's been the question the entire time. Why are you so damn annoying just ike a first grader.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "How the fuck am I shutting down conversation when you won't answer my question!?"

This is another question. Notice the question mark at the end. Hence, this is another question that I don't have to answer-no matter how outraged you become or how entitled you feel. This is a good lesson for you, and it's one you should have already learned, to be frank.

The person who is unable to have a civil discussion is you. The person who can't give evidence or use literary terms correctly is you. Take a good look at yourself. You are not defending anyone else here. You are making yourself look petty, childish, and silly. This show of outrage you display is comically outsized.

[Miah]

lol I'm not outraged idiot bitch. It's just funny how you accuse me of not answering a question then proceed to refuse to answer the only one I've asked you. You're a pretentious homophobic twat lol

[Mickey]

You've spent your entire time on this thread outraged, Jeremiah. You probably wouldn't know how to act if you didn't act outraged. You tell yourself that it's for others (and pretending that makes you noble), but you're just a bully who can't handle other people's opinions and can't express your own in a logical and persuasive manner.

[Miah]

Fuck you dude! Lmfaooo you're the one who has been telling everyone their opinions are wrong! You're just pissed off because I'm not taking you're bullshit. I'm not outraged I'm laughing so fucking hard at how piss off you are, or dare I say outraged! You're soooooo dumb now you want to make this about me when it's been about you being a complete asshole from the beginning. Telling people they're wrong in their literary theory and opinions. Fuck off with that bullshit! Haha have you never been in a debate when people are so stupid you can't help but call them out on it. Have you ever even seen one!? Apparently not. If you're going to be a hypocritical, homophobic, pretentious idiot, I'm going to call you on it! Oh boohoo someone called you a name on the internet! If you think I'm bullying you get the hell off the internet and find a safe space. This is a public forum and I could say you're bullying is worse than mine by telling people their opinions are wrong and not valid. You still haven't answered the only question I've presented you with. One that I'll keep presenting; Why? Bitchass

[Miah]

And to suggest that I've been OUTRAGED lol since the beginning of our conversation is so irritating. I mean, I'm pretty sure your dumbass is the one who commented to ME!? Jesus fuck.

[Miah]

You're such a child. This is how you sound, "even though I've demanded you to answer my questions, even after belittling you and others with opposing opinions, I'm not going to answer your questions because you're being mean after refusing to take condescending *abuse* from me :(" spineless trash.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "And to suggest that I've been OUTRAGED lol since the beginning of our conversation is so irritating. I mean, I'm pretty sure your dumbass is the one who commented to ME!? Jesus fuck."

That's pretty hardcore delusional right there. As I've said before, you seem not to have the slightest clue about how obnoxious and immature you are acting and how weak and silly it looks.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "You're such a child. This is how you sound, "even though I've demanded you to answer my questions, even after belittling you and others with opposing opinions, I'm not going to answer your questions because you're being mean after refusing to take condescending *abuse* from me :(" spineless trash. "

This is another self-serving fantasy of yours.

[Miah]

You don't know how much of a condescending pretentious pick you are. Fuck off!

[Miah]

Still won't answer the questions though haha

[Miah]

You seem really phased but this entire thing, enough to try to get the last word. Sure, I'm being immature, but I'm responding to a pretentious baby in a similar manner. I'm not gonna take your abuse, dumbass. You've quit the conversation, not because I've be foul, I've been foul since the beginning, you're only now attempting to "take the high road" because you know you can't win in this conversation. Because you're a homophobe who can't accept differing opinions. Go cry about it.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "Still won't answer the questions though haha"

Keep on asking then. That just shows your oversized sense of entitlement. That you think anyone has to answer your questions is pretty strange-especially since you acknowledge that you haven't answered mine. Did you notice how I didn't follow you around in a huff going, "You haven't answered my question!" or "Answer my question!". You really have no idea how people act on here.

[Miah]

Excuse me dumb hoe!!! I fucking told you to ask the damn question again! Or do you only read what you want to!?! Like a religious person, are you picking and choosing!? I'm not going to go through this thread to look for your insignificant question! I'm not that invested! You seem to be though!!!

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "Excuse me dumb hoe!!! I fucking told you to ask the damn question again! Or do you only read what you want to!?! Like a religious person, are you picking and choosing!? I'm not going to go through ..."

Keep asking the question, Jeremiah.

[Miah]

Keep avoiding the question, dumb hoe.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "Keep avoiding the question, dumb hoe."

I'm just ignoring it. Continue to pester me like a little boy who wants a candy bar at the grocery store. Pout about it.

[Miah]

Keep trying to get he last word in. So immature. Like the kindergarteners in my class. Lol

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "Keep trying to get he last word in. So immature. Like the kindergarteners in my class. Lol"

I don't know why you are obsessing with "the last word". I imagine that this conversation will not be over until you flounce off and actually stay gone. Then your contribution to this thread will be finished, but mine will not.

[Miah]

I'm obsessed with the last word. It's my end goal in life! Lol there nothing being contributed to this thread anymore. It's just a dumbass argument that you won't let go. lol old hag

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "I'm obsessed with the last word. It's my end goal in life! Lol there nothing being contributed to this thread anymore. It's just a dumbass argument that you won't let go. lol old hag"

You haven't contributed anything yet to this thread. Generic name-calling is about the only thing in your bag of conversational tricks, and that's just weak. "The last word" means nothing because people don't need the last word to see what is going on. The last word you have is not going to be treated any differently than all your preceding words. It's not going to change how you look to others.

[Miah]

So you're saying the previous discourse is invalid because your feelings are hurt. You're weak. I'm trying to drop this but you keep coming back!

[Mickey]

I suppose your real intention is to leave in a self-righteous huff. Make a glorious exit after having made this thread safe for gay people like the tireless activist you imagine that you are. You are now looking for a point to seize upon for your last blast of fireworks. This is all cinematic fantasy that you are attempting to construct for your own fragile ego.

Whatever you do at this point will not erase the history of this exchange.

[Miah]

The entire conversation started when you told me and others that we were wrong in our opinions. You based your evidence on the authors tweets. I responded that they weren't necessary in literary theory, which you didn't even know about, hence your ignoring the field until I kept bringing it up, to which you probably googled it. During this entire time you were condescending and rude as fuck so I'm gonna be rude as fuck right back. I brought something to the table. All you brought was pretension.

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "So you're saying the previous discourse is invalid because your feelings are hurt. You're weak. I'm trying to drop this but you keep coming back!"

Am I the puppeteer here? I thought I made it clear that your leaving will not mean the end of my contribution to this thread. If you want to leave, man up and leave.

[Miah]

Fuck you and safe spaces! I'm trying to create a place where free speech and opinions are valid and should be accepted in a thread discussing literary goddamn theory! You're now trying to place me in a liberal bubble as if I'm trying to fight for LGBT issues, that's not the case, I'm fighting for the right to express opinions that are valid without a wench such as yourself shitting on their analysis of the novel and character development because you don't like the idea of a character being gay. Such a superiority complex. Seek help!

[Mickey]

Jeremiah wrote: "The entire conversation started when you told me and others that we were wrong in our opinions. You based your evidence on the authors tweets. I responded that they weren't necessary in literary theory, which you didn't even know about, hence your ignoring the field until I kept bringing it up, to which you probably googled it. During this entire time you were condescending and rude as fuck so I'm gonna be rude as fuck right back. I brought something to the table. All you brought was pretension. "

More silly fantasies from Jeremiah.