TWILIGHT HATERS discussion
Hate Twilight
You guys should seriously stop fighting!! Everyone has the right for their own opinion and you can either love or hate the twilight saga and no one can stop you from either loving it or hating it. However, I agree with Laurel; this club is for people who don't like twilight,so the twilight lovers shoudn't even be here. Personally, I think that twilight is quite bad because the plot is not interesting and the characters are pretty self-concious and lame.
Demi wrote: "Thats it!!! I'm going to count the repeated words in twilight!!! It's on!!"Have fun? Do you want someone to call 9-1-1 for you when twilcrap murders your brain cells?
Kristin wrote: "agree:) for me, what destroyed it most was the sparkling vampires thing and the terrible writing"already said my opinion,but then again,i must agree as well -se-
The repetetivenes...it's like a bad Mary-Sue fanfiction. Where Edward is the hottie from the fiction thing and his stuff is explained away and Bella is the annoying Mary-Sue the author thinks is like a better version of herself.
Personally, I'm going to review Breaking Dawn and count the 'glower's, 'murmur's, and 'velvet's.Heh, Im already colorcoding the first book with a bunch of highlighters XD Just on the first page of Eclipse I counted 3 loopholes in the half page.
THAT IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA I CAN'T BELIEVE I DIDN'T THINK OF IT BEFORE. Since I don't really care about Twilight much anymore, I can highlight all over it! I'll highlight the 'glower's, 'murmur's, and whenever Edward says he's dangerous to be with, and whenever Bella gives a description of Edward's physical features.Oh, wait, then every single line of the book would be highlighted in multiple colors. Oh well. >:D
To do that wouldn't you have to read the books, can you handle it?
This highlighted book is like art. IMO its better than Picaso at his best. Its all so colorful it looks like when you look at it your on crack or something. The colors:bitchyness: dayglow pink
loophole: dayglow orange
stupidity: dayglow pee
velvety/beauty/beautiful/marble: dayglow green
sexism/stereo typing: dayglow blue
bella's obsessivness: dayglow purple
I wasn't anticipating having to go out and buy more highlighters so soon......
I already did that, but I lost them. :(
Having to waste your money because of twilight, so sad. :(
I know. It really is amazing that no matter how much you stuff it in their face, they don't seem to hear you. I flamed the twi tards by saying in their 'hate twihaters thread':Here’s some loopholes:
The book never said that Edward had venom glands. All it said was that the poison was glistening on his teeth, and that in order to change in to a vampire, the poison had to enter the circulatory system. So right when Edward kisses Bella, shouldn’t she be changed right from that scene??
In New Moon, Jacob turns into a werewolf. But there’s already a pack of other werewolves that involuntarily transmit every one of their thoughts to each other. But the pack forbids Jacob to visit Bella on account of if he looses his temper, he’ll maul her. So he goes to visit her anyway, and trying not to think about her. Keep in mind he’s in human form. But later in the whole series, Jacob has to turn into a werewolf for his thoughts to be transmitted. But, why should he have to turn in to a werewolf for them to be transmitted, when they could be transmitted just fine in human form before??
In New Moon, Jasper goes absolutely ballistic on Bella when she gets a paper cut. But when he goes to highschool with a bunch of highschool girls getting their periods, how come he doesn’t react then?
Don’t get me started on how unfeminist these books are.
Every single guy in there knows ‘what’s best’ for Bella. Her dad knows what’s best for her, and that’s ok because that’s what dads do. But what about Emmett? Edward? Jacob too? What about Jacobs friends? How about his Dad?? And when Edward forbids Bella to see Jacob, that is a form of ABUSE people. Not physical, but phycological, domestic ABUSE. Not love, but ABUSE.
All the guys get the cool gifts, like reading people’s minds and influencing people’s emotions. But only some of the girls get gifts, but lame ones like seeing into the future, but wait! Their gifts aren’t even reliable, and only work some of the time. Even their gifts are crippled!
Bella’s mom is portrayed as a ditz who needs to be taken care of. Great female role model out there Meyer.
Why is Esme in the books? Becuase Carisle needs a mate. That is her only function.
Why is Rosalie in there? Because she needs to represent how bitchy vampires can be.
Even Alice, arguably the strongest of the female characters, does little more than obsess over makeup and clothes.
Bella is not a portrayal of a ‘strong female character’. Left to her own devices, I think she would rather make out with Edward for eternity. That’s basically all she does besides fall down stairs left and right. What sort of good thing does she do in the books for other people? She only saves Edward in New Moon because she is an anti-feminist slut who tried to make several attempts in the books to rape poor Edward. Any other sensible girl would have let a person who trampled all over their feelings die and be glad about it. And when she does save Edward, she goes right back to him in five seconds. A girl just doesn’t let a guy who beat her up like that let him go right back to her. All she does is want to suck face with Edward for forever, but doesn’t want to marry him for no good reason? Loser.
And, not only that, In Breaking Dawn, she finnally marries Edward at only 18 years old and glorifies teen marrige, asying its the best thing and it’ll be like a basket of roses. Not only that, but she also gets pregnant with Edward and gets a mutant fetus in her only 2 weeks into her teen marrige. Again, she just loves the kid, even though it sucks her blood right out of her while she’s still pregnant, also saying its such a wonderful thing because its Edwards kid. Again, if you only had this book to go on, you’d think teen marrige and pregnancy with a half-human half-vampire fetus is a wonderful and magical thing. But it doesn’t stop there! The kid actually beats her up while its inside of her! It evidently is strong becuase its a half-vampire. So it breaks roughly 6 ribs, a hip, and-….a shoulder?? How can a fetus break its mother’s shoulder?? Its not like it propelled Bella into a wall or anything, so how could it break a shoulder? Wouldn’t her lungs get in the way? But it still doesn’t end there people! The fetus was actually supposed to chew its way out of Bella instead of traditional birth. And Bella’s happy about that. HAPPY about a MUTANT stuck inside her AND THAT’S GOING TO CHEW THROUGH HER STOMACH AND UTERUS because the kid is *gasp!* Edwards child? So she’s happy about all of this beause its Edwards child? And why does Bella like Edward so much? Becase of his beauty. Not for his musical ability, not for his artistic talent, love for her, or intelligence. Sure that adds up, but all she goes on about is his beauty.
One of them was actually a grown woman, 34 yo, and was actually slavering over a 108 yo virgin in a 17 yo's body. Another admited that yes, the men were abusive, but so what? She also said that the venom had to enter the circulatory system by a bite otherwise it wouldn't get to it. Wow. HAs she ever even watched the discovery channel? Or been to a seventh grade science class? And yet not one of the twitards talked about the whole mutant fetus chewng through mother thing. I was most amazed by this. Its like they are literaly retarded.
Here's what Melzz said:Runo wrote: "...So right when Edward kisses Bella, shouldn’t she be changed right from that scene?"
One, the books did mention that venom was circulating through their systems. Who ever said anything about "glands"? We didn't. Two, in the books it mentioned that their was venom on their teeth, yes. However, it was also mentioned that it can only be given to a human through their blood stream. Which basically means that a vampire has to physically cut through the skin to get to the blood. So, no. It is not transported when they kiss.
Runo wrote: "In New Moon, Jacob turns into a werewolf..."
Yeah, no. You have that entirely incorrect there. The wolves never transmitted thoughts in human form, not in New Moon, not in any book.
Runo wrote: "But when he goes to highschool with a bunch of highschool girls getting their periods, how come he doesn’t react then?"
Had you done any research, you might have learned that the blood from menstruation is different from blood straight from the tap, if you catch my drift. Besides, common sense tells the reader that Jasper's attack was a one-time loss of control. Jazz didn't just pounce on girls regularly. ;)
Runo wrote: "Every single guy in there knows ‘what’s best’ for Bella...."
By that definition, millions of guys in the world are "abusive."
Runo wrote: "Don’t get me started on how unfeminist these books are."
I'm guessing you don't actually know what the term "feminism" means, do you? Let me educate you, feminism means: "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes". Which means, in case you don't understand, that females in general should be equal to men in society. Not that every individual female needs to be special, they just need to have the same rights. In which case, the books are the very definition of feminism. Women should be aloud to be as stupid or as sucky as men are and not be treated any differently as a gender. And Stephenie Meyer, as a woman, should be aloud to write sucky books, just like men! Yay!
Runo wrote: "Great female role model out there Meyer."
Runo wrote: "Bella is not a portrayal of a ‘strong female character’."
So, what? Not every single character in the book you read has to be "strong" or a "role model". Some characters are just characters, with flaws, and mannerisms that stink. If you were looking for a heroes in a teen vampire romances, you probably wouldn't have gotten too far in life in the first place.
Runo wrote: "at only 18 years old and glorifies teen marrige"
So, what? As said, anyone who looks for value and
meaning in vamp-lit pretty much gets what they pay for. These books are just for entertainment, they aren't meant to bestow positive influences on the youth of the world. Want a book with good influences and positive meaning? Go check out Barney Says Please & Thank You.
Runo wrote: "Take that twi-tards."
Mmhmm. Have a nice day. :)
Omigod:Who ever said anything about "glands"?
No duh. *facepalm* Basically my point is that if the venom is that powerful to put you on that much pain, its strong enough to get to the circulatory system by mouth. You eat things to get energy. the inner intestines soak up all the vitamins and minerals/poison in food and transport them through the body by blood. *rolls eyes* Duh. I learned that all by watching The Magic Schoolbus when I was 4.
Yeah, no. You have that entirely incorrect there. The wolves never transmitted thoughts in human form
So why did Jacob try not to think about bella when he tresspassed into her room? Why did he specifically explain that he couldn't openly explain it to her becuase the others would know he told his secret to her??
By that definition, millions of guys in the world are "abusive.",
So why the hell settle for an abusive one?? And I never knew that millions of guys were in the book.
feminism means: "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
Huh. I guess you call Edward abusing Bella from not seeing her friends ok. That's evidently ok. Its not. That's mental/emotional domestic abuse. Edward's family even join in from letting her see Jacob. The book makes it out that act is OK becuase they do it becuase they love Bella. I guess they love her enough to abuse her.
And Stephenie Meyer, as a woman, should be aloud to write sucky books, just like men! Yay!
A disgrace to our kind.
If you were looking for a heroes in a teen vampire romances, you probably wouldn't have gotten too far in life in the first place.
Keywords: In life. In life, shiny overevolved leeches don't exist. So why base a book like that on life? And why the fuck would I look for a leech-loves-human-slut romance character anyways?
Want a book with good influences and positive meaning? Go check out Barney Says Please & Thank You.
I got a good book for you: "Don't ever say please to a bitchy slut"
Did you get kicked out of that group or did you leave?
I left becuase its just too embaressing to have that on my record. When I feel like flaming again, I'll join :P Though Im pretty sure that when they make a movie out of Breaking Dawn, I'll get permabanned.
I hate hate hate twilight. It was ok at first, but then it gets like the author tries to force the idea of Edward being the most handsome guy in the world. I get so sick of how much Bella talks about the looks of edward. Anyway, I had a way to vent my feelings of Twilight by showing my friends who kind of like twilight this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L253V...
I mean, the guy is unbiased at first, but then he becomes annoyed by the book. I love watching the change, and he has actually changed all my twilight loving friends (which adds up to about 3 people).
I only watched the first video, but I already love it! It's cool to see the change as he reads the chapter- he goes from excited, to somewhat pleased, to neutral, then just annoyed. :)
http://community.sparknotes.com/tag/b...Go to this, it's HILARIOUS!!!
This guy, Dan Bergstein, he's a total comedian, and he blogs about each chapter as he reads the whole Twilight series. Seriously, read this, it's SOO funny!
Nightshade wrote: "I only watched the first video, but I already love it! It's cool to see the change as he reads the chapter- he goes from excited, to somewhat pleased, to neutral, then just annoyed. :)"Yeah. It was fun to watch the changes. Later on he just hates the book to the point where he can't stand it anymore, but he has his subscribers to think of. He's stuck.
Olivia ^^Who Likes Animals o_O^^ wrote: "http://community.sparknotes.com/tag/b...Go to this, it's HILARIOUS!!!
This guy, Dan Bergstein, he's a total comedian, and he blogs about each chapter as he reads the whole Twilight ..."
I loved that! Dan is the best! Thanks for pasting that. It just made my day ten times better.
No problem!It's good to share some laughs! ^_^
DAN IS MY HERO!Heh, sorry. I have a SparkNotes account and it makes me very excited. XD
Lol, ikr!! I found him while looking around SparkNotes, and was like, "Wow, I need to share this with the Twilight Haters!"
Dan is my HERO!! *fangirl*Heh.
But seriously, he's AWESOME. Part 13 of Blogging Eclipse is up OMGOMGOMG
Ummm..i JOINEED THIS GROUP FOR A SECOND BUTT...TWILIGHT IS AWESOME...U GUYS ARE MAD....TWILIGHT ROCKS...ND IT ALWAYS WILL!!1
Yeah..... COME BAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!
We're mad, huh? Hmm... not particularly angry right now, actually, though I am rather annoyed that you decided to come spam our group. We don't flame YOUR group, so why should you flame OURS?Then again, a good argument is always fun. So in that case, I agree with Vivi and Olivia.
COME BACK! WE MISS YOU!
(sarcasm hand raised) ;)
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Olivia ^^The Awesome Mushroom^^ wrote: "http://community.sparknotes.com/tag/b...Go to this, it's HILARIOUS!!!
This guy, Dan Bergstein, he's a total comedian, and he blogs about each chapter as he reads the whole Twilight ..."
wow i read the first paragraph and im hooked! its a bok way to review the books and make fun of them! at the same time!
Good books and all, but COME ON! the vamp thing is over with!!!
I hate Twilight too!!! It INSULTES my NAME Bella!!!!! Grrrrrrrr..... .\_/.
Boy, i feel bad 4 u!!!! ( No, I realy do! sereously!)
Im tired of turning around and there be something Twiligh( Ugh) hanging up!!!!!!!!!! my BFF has Robert (Yech!) P.'s pic FRAMED ON HER FRIGGAN DESK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS SOOOOOOOO UGLY!
Im tired of turning around and there be something Twiligh( Ugh) hanging up!!!!!!!!!! my BFF has Robert (Yech!) P.'s pic FRAMED ON HER FRIGGAN DESK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS SOOOOOOOO UGLY!
LOL! I can't understand why people like Robert. I mean, since Edward is described as perfect looking and a guy who goes around writing lullabies, shouldn't he look like a nice sort of guy? Instead, he looks like he could be one of those drunk and rowdy guys that tried to atack Bella in the first book.
THANK YA MILORD! Twilight is the worst book of the decade if not the century. Mary Sues, Ani-Mary Sues, bad romance, gross birth scenes, etc. etc. Seriously.
Alicia wrote: "LOL! I can't understand why people like Robert. I mean, since Edward is described as perfect looking and a guy who goes around writing lullabies, shouldn't he look like a nice sort of guy? Instead,..."I agree! He's not even that hot or anything. O_O In half the pictures he takes, he looks creepy/stalkerish/weird/drunk/high/etc. I don't see how that's so appealing. If it was anyone else, everyone would flip out and be like "OMG HE'S A TOTAL CREEPER," but since he was Spedward? Oh noooo, NOW it's hot.
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I have a strong nose, I can't imagine what Kristen Stewart must be smelling when they have sex. Ew...
EW EW EW BAD THOUGHTS BAD THOUGHTS *puke*
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hahaha love the dan stuff! im on part 8!
Hahahaha yes yes yes!!!!
He says it so often its infuriating!! But more inuriating is how often Bella tells him "I dont care"
Yes..she doesnt care if its bad for her/could kill her. WTH!