Faith discussion
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Sins
well i actually beleive that we were ALL born wiht sin thats why we do lie and cheat and steal and have gay and les, becuase right now we;re all imperfect from Adam and Eve's sin.and i don;t beleive in hell becuase God wouldn't make us go through that, becuase he loves us, actually god IS love so he would never make a place for eternal toture, and he's going get rid of the devil and the devil is his enemy so he wouldn;t make a special place for the devil to rule over bad peolpe, that wouldn;t be very good, and God is good.
I like that thought. thats good Rilly
I think gays and bi and lesbians go to hell
Mikayla said:I like that thought. thats good Rilly hehe i read the Bible alot and really think about it,
becuase its the main resource God gave us to communicatre right,
I don't agree with your statement that there is no hell. God makes it very clear that there is a hell. For example: Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? and 2 Pet 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.
The bible also states that people who do not belive will go to hell.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
Sorry, I'm not trying to be offensive or anything but this is just what I belive.
Okay well we can all have our oppinions this is NOT A DEBATE GROUP
Abby wrote: "I don't agree with your statement that there is no hell. God makes it very clear that there is a hell. For example: Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnati..."Ecc 9:5a: For the living are consious that they will die; as for the dead they are consious of nothing at all,
and Hell doesn't mean fiery torture when you die, it mean destroying ino death not eternal suffering.
and its literally Sheolh it just comes up as Hell with our english alphabet.
Hell would be awfull. Imagine a place with no hope, no peace, no mercy, no goodness at all, and no end.
I think that since the bible says there's a hell, then there must be one. If you believve in God, then there must be a Satan right?
Don't forget always pain, Dovewing
well sure, it says it in the bible that Lucifer (aka satan) led the rebellion with the fallen angels against God. He's mentioned in there several times
well sure, it says it in the bible that Lucifer (aka satan) led the rebellion with the fallen angels against God. He's mentioned in there several times
Mikayla wrote: "Okay well we can all have our oppinions this is NOT A DEBATE GROUP"No, I'm really not trying to start a debate....I just have to stand up for what I belive in...you know?
Yea i know im just saying to everyone not trying to yell lol its cool we all have our own thoughts :)
Yeah. :) This is just a belief discussion really. Just seeing others beliefs.
Ashley wrote: "I think gays and bi and lesbians go to hell"If that is true then I'm going to Hell then. I'm a straight Christian and I am dating a bisexual. She has given herself to Christ. So if I'm going to Hell for lovign her. So be it. It is my thought that God redeems us all from our sins no matter how big or small. So that is why I don't see my girlfriend as being one to go to Hell. I myself have done many things I regret. Things that she knows and loves me despite.......Thinking about it I think that is an example of the unconditional love God has for us. He doesn't care what we've done or anything. He just cares about us.
Your welcome and Im Protective of Gays Lesbians and Bi-sexual Because i have alot of Gay And Bi Guy Friends and few Lesbian and Bi girl frie nds
Same here. Mostly Lesbian and Bi friends though. Only a couple gays.
Blaze wrote: "Ashley wrote: "I think gays and bi and lesbians go to hell"
If that is true then I'm going to Hell then. I'm a straight Christian and I am dating a bisexual. She has given herself to Christ. So ..."
But i don't think that it gives you a right to do whatever you want just thinking that God will forgive you.....it should be our goal to be like God.
If that is true then I'm going to Hell then. I'm a straight Christian and I am dating a bisexual. She has given herself to Christ. So ..."
But i don't think that it gives you a right to do whatever you want just thinking that God will forgive you.....it should be our goal to be like God.
Yes, it is impossible for us to be like god. We are human...but we should at least strive for that because one day (in heaven) we shall be like god, perfect and sinless. How much of an influence would you have to an unbeliever if you yourself are exactly like the world?
Breanna wrote: "Blaze wrote: "Ashley wrote: "I think gays and bi and lesbians go to hell"If that is true then I'm going to Hell then. I'm a straight Christian and I am dating a bisexual. She has given herself ..."
I know that. I'm not saying that I think the way you're saying I do. I am FAR from perfect or holy and once nearly made my girlfriend cry by saying that of all people I know I was probably destined for Hell. Everytime I do wrong I constantly reprimand myself for it and almost hold in constant memory. But Girl4beluga I understand we should set realistic goals for ourselves.........in a sense I do have some of the qualities a good Christian has (patience, sincerity, honesty where it counts, mercy, calming arguments)However I still easily get angry with ppl, I lie, I give into carnal thinking and things like that. Now though like I said, unlike some ppl I don't think gays, lesbians, or bi's go to Hell. The ppl that go to Hell are the ones that are repeat offenders no matter how hard they try.
Breanna wrote: "Yes, it is impossible for us to be like god. We are human...but we should at least strive for that because one day (in heaven) we shall be like god, perfect and sinless. How much of an influence wo..."Well.........you can still make a difference. As I just said I'm far from being a saint but I still tend to make people see sense or help them in times of trouble. Unbelievers are essentially ppl in need of help. Also no one is EXACTLY like the world. We all (or nearly all) have our morals and lines that we've drawn. Also you are speaking as though you're high and mighty and are looking down upon us. I doubt you're perfect either. Strive as you might you still slip now and then. Even good God-fearing ppl in the bible did. David and Job for example.
I don't mean to sound high and mighty......heck, i'm FAR from perfect!! I struggle with doubts and sin all the time!! Every day! Please forgive me if i sounded like that.
Abby wrote: "I don't agree with your statement that there is no hell. God makes it very clear that there is a hell. For example: Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnati..."
i agree with you
i agree with you
Then what do you base your faith on, if the bible isn't the ultimate truth?
But how do you know that your own personal experience is right? I mean you are human yourself...
Couldn't you be missled? How do you completely know that that experience was God touching you?
I don't know, but you still didn't answer my question...
can you always trust your feelings? It says so in the bible that you can't trust your heart
In Jer. 17:9 it says:
"The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?
"The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?
No, i'm not talking about our physical heart, but our spiritual one. And if you think i believe God only through His word, you're seriously mistaken. God speaks through us through his word and his holy spirit, moving our hearts, but you cannot just rely on your feelings.....they will mislead you.
You said you can't trust humans 5 thousand years ago, but how can you trust yourself (a human) now?
You believe that God can touch you and enlighten you, but why can't God inspire men 5 thousand years ago to write His word?
But you believe the bible has errors in it...
But it was inspired by God, and God is perfect
What? I don't think you're getting my point....
WW2 isn't a being, it isn't a person....sure it can inspire you but writing it won't make it true
God is perfect and he is all powerful...if he wants to inspire sinful humans to make an inerrant gospel, he can do so
But what i said, was god can direct people to make it perfect. Do you believe God is all powerful?
I do believe it's possible.....there are tons of historical evidence for it also. But sry, i didn't follow the rest
I have to disagree with you on the last one.....people have self control. Whether they use it or not, that is the thing. I think there are SOME cases, few and far between, that has something to do with a disorder, but most gays choose that lifestyle
Well, people like to be different....they like to seem like victims also. How many gays do you know?
Okay So alot of people have Diffrent ideas about Sins. We all sin. If we didnt we'd be God.
I think Sins are sins no matter what. People say if your Gay or bi or Lesbian thats a sin that you'll Go to hell for.
I think that being Gay is okay its a sin. But lying and cheating and stealing are sins as well.So for the people who say Gay's go to hell ur not correct. Because As long as these people Gave themselfs to The lord they will die and Go to heaven as well as the stealers and liar's will. Sins are forgiven. And God loves all of his children.
This is NOT MENT to be an ARGUEMENT. So please don't make it that way.I'm sorry for my poor word choice. I Dont mean to Go againest anyone.