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message 1: by Mara (new)

Mara | 17 comments Does anyone know the specific ages of main characters when significant events happened? ie- when Jamie and Claire met, when they were reunited. Roger and Bree marrying and having kids. How old the kids were when they travelled. Jamie's age when he had Willie, when father/son met; when they moved to the colonies; Current age of characters at the end of Echo; all those events.

Its just hard to follow the story, and sometimes I think Jamie and Claire would be too old to do all these things.

Anything will help!


message 2: by Fiona (last edited May 06, 2010 02:58AM) (new)

Fiona (yahoodymcewan) | 116 comments Jamie's date of birth is 1st May 1720
(23 when 1st met Claire in 1743)

Claire's date of birth is 20th October 1918
(27 when 1st met Jamie in 1743)

The year Claire went through the stones was 1945.


message 3: by Lotte (new)

Lotte | 330 comments Mara wrote: "Does anyone know the specific ages of main characters when significant events happened? ie- when Jamie and Claire met, when they were reunited. Roger and Bree marrying and having kids. How old the..."

This has been troubling me ever since reading the 2nd book! (Did not seem so important in the first one.) Therefore I did my homework and ever since and put down information/dates whenever available.I've come to slightly different conclusions as did Fiona, however, but maybe together we can clear things up.

James, born May 1st, 1721
(imprisonned Ardsmiur, May 1753 - 32 years of age
sent to Helwater, Sept. 1756 - 35 years of age)

Claire, born Oct. 20th, 1917 or 1918/1715 or 1716
(Yes, she was 27 when meeting Jamie, but this was in spring 1743. When Jamie asks her age, she - having lost track of time - is not sure whether she were 27 or 28. When writing her letter of farewells to Brianna in 1968, she recalls "wisdom gained in a life of 48 years"!)
Oct. 31, 1968/1766 - 51/50 years of age (going back to the 18th century)

Roger, born 1940 (never found any reference to month)
June 20, 1971 - back to the 1700s - 31 y.
Oct. 1776/1978 - returning 1900s - 38 y.

Brianna, born December 1948
(must be, as we know she was conceived in April 1746/1948, a bit early, but ok. As we can read in DIA, in April 1968she should still have to go 8 months till her 21st birthday. There is a comment on this in the Outlandish Companion, can't find it now.)
April 30, 1971 - 22+ years of age
Oct. 1776/1978 - almost 30

Ian, born Nov./Dec. 1752

William, born Jan. 1758

Jeremiah, born mid-May 1770
Oct. 1776/1978 - 6 years and a half

Amanda, born April 21st, 1776
Oct. 1776/1978 - 6 months

The first entry of the MacKenzies at Lallybroch is in Sept. 1980.


message 4: by Mara (new)

Mara | 17 comments Omg you did a great job Lotte, this will definitely help me! Now I'm starting DOA again. Thanks!


message 5: by Kimberly (new)

Kimberly (kimberly_b) | 429 comments Wow, thanks for all the info here, Lotte! Just out of curiosity, did you have this all written down yourself or did you look it up somewhere?


message 6: by Lotte (new)

Lotte | 330 comments Mara and Kimberly, thanks for your credits. For a story covering several books, families, centuries I love to have time-table, familytree abailable, and I dearly missed it in this series. Like most of us I read books 1-6 several times and started to stick "post-its" into them to mark scenes I loved and I thought worth/necessary to be able to find right away. Then I put stickers on each book to tell me the time-frame it covers (remember DOA!) and I made notes of the years when important things happened. You can imagine how funny and definitely well-read my books look now. The most peculiar being #7: having had difficulties with this one (like some of you), so far I read it just once, but I went through it once again with multi-coloured stickers marking the scenes by the main characters with its own colour (e.g. orange: Brianna/Roger, blue: William, etc.).


The German edition of Echo has got a familytree in the dust cover. It looks quite nice, but does not show any dates (checked again in the book-shop) and therefore would be useless for me. By the way, how does the American hard-cover version look? I've got the English paperback, large version, no dust covers.

I also found my "marker" for Brianna's age in Outlandish Companion, page 503: "Claire ought to have said 'Bree has another year and a half to go'".

Finally there is a bit of confusion about Young Ian's date of birth: Ian's birth is described in Voyager, chapter 5, which takes place three weeks after the previous one, headed Nov. 1752. Later, same book, chapter 28, that's the scene at Madame Jeanne's and in Nov. 1766, they elaborate on Ian's imminente 15th(!) birthday.


message 7: by Kimberly (new)

Kimberly (kimberly_b) | 429 comments Wow, Lotte I am impressed! I only have Fiery Cross and Echo in hardback and neither have any sort of family tree. Does your version of the Companion include the Genealogy chapter? The family trees in that chapter do have some dates. Maybe DG hasn't wanted to include dates because that will give away part of the story (when someone will die, etc.). I am looking forward to her revision of the Companion, although I'm sure it won't be coming out until the final book has been released. It would be nice if she included a timeline and full family trees in that.

I'm just starting my first re-read of the series and I am keeping a notebook to correspond with each book. It's amazing how much I have picked up on the second time around!


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