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message 1: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 4034 comments I just finished Her Fearful Symmetry and I've got twins on the brain. Does anyone want to talk about them with me? The book features two sets of very strongly attached twins who do everything together and are portrayed as being two halves of the same person. In your experience is this what it's like or not? I know Clark has twin daughters. What do you say, Clark? What about the rest of you?

I was friends with twins in high school who both got nose jobs. They were extremely worried that the surgeon wouldn't give them the same nose and they wouldn't look alike anymore.


message 2: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 4034 comments Did that book make you feel freaked out about twins, Barb?


message 3: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Aren't there more twins now that people are using fertility drugs and the like? True or false?


message 4: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 4034 comments I think the fertility drugs and IVF have a higher instance of multiples but not identical twins. right?


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Yes, more multiple births have occurred since the advent of fertility drugs. My wife is taking fertility drugs right now; there's the fear that my super sperm will impregnate several eggs, thus producing multiples (i.e., quadruplets). Yikes!


message 6: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 4034 comments But no increased chance of monozygotic twins, right?

And yay!! Good luck to you and your sperm!


message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

What do you want to know, Gretchen?


For once I'm not bragging, but no fertility drugs needed at Casa Clark.

My wife was sick as a dog for the first three months when she was pregnant with the twins. The only thing she could keep down was dry saltine crackers and warm Pepsi. She was so dehydrated she had to be hooked to an IV for most of that time until one day she just tore everything out of her arm and told the medical service people coming to the house, "No more! Am-scray!" From there on, it was smooth sailing.

For the first year, we had to paint one of Elayna's toenails red in order to tell her apart from Emma.

Is your family tree a determining factor in whether YOU will spit out twins? In our case, I'd say, "Yeah." There were nine sets (some identical, some fraternal) on my side over the last two generations and my wife's grandmother was a twin.

That special bond that supposedly exists between twins has yet to show itself at our house, but we have our fingers crossed. The problem is, neither of ours is dominant so they butt heads over everything from who showers first to who holds the remote. Neither one will back down and from there it usually gets REAL ugly REAL fast, complete with everything from fisticuffs, hair pulling, kicking, and a din that sounds like two hyenas on crack. I'm fully convinced they both have a future in either CIA torture training or POW interrogation.

Supposedly, the older a woman gets the greater the odds are for her to have twins. Six months after the girls were born, I went and "had it taken care of."

Any questions?


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By the time the girls were born, both my parents and my wife's parents were gone, so we had absolutely no help, but I gotta tell you sleep deprivation ain't a bad buzz.

Try as we might, we couldn't get them on the same feeding schedule so we were each responsible for a twin. I took Emma and my wife took Elayna. They were both up every three hours for about the first year. You haven't lived until you've held a baby in one arm and tried to simultaneously warm a bottle of formula in a microwave and work a TV remote control with the other.


message 9: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 4034 comments Clark I want to know if they act like one person split in two. Or if they feel like that. Do they enjoy looking alike or hate it? Did they fight a lot when they were little? Do they wear their hair the same? Like the same foods? movies? Do they have the same mannerisms? speech patterns? are they both good at the same things? write with the same hand?


message 10: by [deleted user] (last edited Apr 27, 2010 12:12PM) (new)

Gretchen wrote: "...strongly attached twins who do everything together and are portrayed as being two halves of the same person."

Oh yeah, I see that around our house all the time. Unfortunately the two halves come together to make the female version of Memphistopheles.


message 11: by [deleted user] (new)

Unfortunately, the number 666 was taken.





message 12: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 4034 comments Oh Clark cut it out. They look perfectly sweet.


message 13: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments My stepbrother and his wife had twins last year; they were very premature. They aren't identical, and one is very dominant. She is an adorable giant baby with a giant head and no neck, and has lots of smiles for everyone. Her sister is teeny tiny still, and doesn't like anyone but her mother, and is allergic to milk.

I was in love with the Israeli twin boys in my class in seventh grade. The teachers got them confused constantly, but one was definitely louder and bolder than the other, and also one had a small birthmark on his face.


message 14: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments i have a friend who is on my softball team and went to school with my kids who is one of a set of quads. 2 boys and 2 girls. they are all unique in looks and personality but all are top caliber, top notch people who are all driven in sports and life. i am guessing that had more to do with great parenting than just being a quad

we have a set of twin girls at our church who look exactly alike. both are cute blond girls built like olive oyl


message 15: by [deleted user] (new)

Kevin "El Liso Grande" wrote: "i have a friend who is on my softball team and went to school with my kids who is one of a set of quads. 2 boys and 2 girls. they are all unique in looks and personality but all are top caliber, to..."


Softball? We had our first game tonight and won via forfeit. Those doofuses from St. Sabina only had five players. We're not proud. It still goes in the paper as a win.


message 16: by Mary (new)

Mary (madamefifi) My brother and his wife have twin girls thanks to fertility drugs, but they're not identical which is unfortunate because one of them is much cuter than the other. My husband's 2 youngest sons are fraternal twins and as different as night and day.

I knew a set of identicals in high school (girls)--one was a staright-laced jock and the other was a wild party girl.


message 17: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments yeah clark, i play on two teams still. this is my 26th year playing in our city league. i am on a team now with 14 guys who are 26 or younger and me and one other dude are 40+. i love it. i am an infielder who now plays third but soon to move to first to finish out my unlustrious (think i just made that word up) career

sorry for putting sports in a non sports thread you sports haters


message 18: by [deleted user] (new)

Kevin "El Liso Grande" wrote: "yeah clark, i play on two teams still. this is my 26th year playing in our city league. i am on a team now with 14 guys who are 26 or younger and me and one other dude are 40+. i love it. i am an i..."

Kevin, I've played softball every summer since I graduated from high school, 34 straight years now. Started out in city leagues and now I'm in a 30-and-over Catholic (read: beer) league. Six of us are at least 50 and our oldest player is our shortstop who will soon be 60 but plays like he's 40. I'm still out in left, as opposed to left out. I've lost a step or two but at least I don't embarass myself and I still have my knees. We have a good time.

Now where were we? Oh yeah, twins...


message 19: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 4034 comments Oh look at those cuties, Clark!!


message 20: by [deleted user] (new)

Thanks, ladies.

As much as I natter on about their deplorable behavior, I told Gretchen the other day that I'd gladly take a bullet for either one of them (and my son and wife, too) but there are days they make me long for a solitary existence deep in the woods of northern Michigan, beer in one hand and a fishing rod in the other.


message 21: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments Kevin "El Liso Grande" wrote: "yeah clark, i play on two teams still. this is my 26th year playing in our city league. i am on a team now with 14 guys who are 26 or younger and me and one other dude are 40+. i love it. i am an i..."

I did that, too, until age 41. That was the year I was pitching BP and nearly lost an important part of my anatomy. You see, those 20-something guys are strong, and they hit the ball VERY hard. One guy hit it back up the middle that day & I managed to turn my body just enough to not be castrated.

I played left field the rest of that season, pitching only when the other guys couldn't buy a strike. Haven't played since.


message 22: by [deleted user] (new)

I'm taking it up after an 8 year absence. This has disaster written all over it. :-)


message 23: by [deleted user] (new)

Jim wrote: "I'm taking it up after an 8 year absence. This has disaster written all over it. :-)"

Take it slow until about mid-season and watch that first step coming out of the batter's box. It's a killer...


message 24: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments i am full out. one large scab til fall league is done. out hustle the kids out there. when i can't play that way i will quit. i wanna be the one to know i am done and not have everyone else talking about it behind my back.


message 25: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
Clark, after I read msg 10 I automatically moved the mouse down to try to find the "like" button.


message 26: by [deleted user] (new)

Sally wrote: "Clark, after I read msg 10 I automatically moved the mouse down to try to find the "like" button."

Was it the "had it taken care of" part that made you swoon?


message 27: by [deleted user] (new)

Gretchen wrote: "Clark I want to know if they act like one person split in two. Or if they feel like that. Do they enjoy looking alike or hate it? Did they fight a lot when they were little? Do they wear their hair..."

No Gretchen, other than the fighting part, they are very different. And yes, they fought when they were younger as well.

Emma is very techically oriented, very good at math, able to figure out how things work, how to program VCR's, digital alarm clocks, etc. She's my own live-in computer help desk. Perhaps she has a future as an engineer.

Elayna is the artsy one, the dreamer, writing in journals, drawing, arts and crafts, cooking, etc. And she has a harder head than even me and that's really saying something.

They both wear their hair the same, but they don't want to dress alike anymore, much to my wife's chagrin.

They're both right handed (I'm a lefty) and they both love to play baseball but they're all hit, no field.


message 28: by Heidi (last edited Apr 29, 2010 04:47AM) (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments Clark, your twins are unbelievably CUTE!!! :D I love the way their feet kind of sort of point towards each other, and they're sitting elbow-to-elbow.


message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

Heidi wrote: "Clark, your twins are unbelievably CUTE!!! :D I love the way their feet kind of sort of point towards each other, and they're sitting elbow-to-elbow."

Thanks, Heidi! I finally did SOMETHING right...


message 30: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments Clark wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Clark, your twins are unbelievably CUTE!!! :D I love the way their feet kind of sort of point towards each other, and they're sitting elbow-to-elbow."

Thanks, Heidi! I finally d..."


Awww... if it makes you feel any better, I'm looking forward to your shebang. That playlist you posted looks pretty awesome. :)


message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

Heidi wrote: "Clark wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Clark, your twins are unbelievably CUTE!!! :D I love the way their feet kind of sort of point towards each other, and they're sitting elbow-to-elbow."

Thanks, Heidi! ..."


Looking forward to your feedback re: the shebang, good (at which point I'll gloat) or bad (at which point I'll start another argument). Don't hold back; I can take it.


message 32: by smetchie (new)

smetchie | 4034 comments Clark, I just adore you. I can't keep it a secret any longer.


message 33: by [deleted user] (new)

Gretchen wrote: "Clark, I just adore you. I can't keep it a secret any longer."

Sometimes there's just no accounting for taste.

XXXOOOXXXX


message 34: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments I like the latest avatar, Clark. In fact, all the pictures you have posted on your page make me want to give you a big hug. Your family's so cute! I might have to recant that melvin threat. :)


message 35: by [deleted user] (new)

Heidi wrote: "I like the latest avatar, Clark. In fact, all the pictures you have posted on your page make me want to give you a big hug. Your family's so cute! I might have to recant that melvin threat. :)"

Well right back at you, ma'am.

I wear boxers. I'm thinking a melvin might be twice as painful in that situation, huh?


message 36: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments OHHH!!! Yeah. No. Melvins are no fun, period.


message 37: by [deleted user] (new)

Heidi wrote: "Your family's so cute!"

And look at all of that hair! If you don't factor myself into the equation, there's enough wool there to make a blanket. :(


message 38: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments HA HA HA!!! Umm, nah. Not nearly as bad as my Cajun cousin who's so woolly he's got hair sticking out of every piece of clothing, kind of like what I'd imagine a teenaged werewolf would look like.


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