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Team Will vs. Team Jem

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message 1751: by Flora (new)

Flora  (shipitlikefedex) Who should I ship? Ship... Ship.... *breaks down crying*


message 1752: by Shani (last edited Mar 19, 2013 01:53AM) (new)

Shani | 9 comments Abigail wrote: "Angela wrote: "Team Jem!!!

You're all alone here....i feel bad. Wait, can i actually vote for 2 guys? Like what if Jem and Will combined? That would be crazy. Now that is like the perfect guy."


omg ik, i dont think it is possible to find a jem-will anywhere in this world but to the girl(s) who does, you are one lucky person who is being watched over by an angel :P but as much as i love jem, i cant help being drawn to will more. just. cant. help. it.


message 1753: by Shani (new)

Shani | 9 comments deleted user wrote: "I'm totally digging Jem. Usually I'm a sucker for the sarcastic, witty, good-looking a-hole, but this time around I'm totally for Jem. The guy seems a sweetie (keep in mind I'm a couple of chapters..."

definitely pretty much all the reasons im sort of on the fence....just to find a guy like him *swoon*


message 1754: by Nárriman (new)

Nárriman | 1 comments Will and Jem depends on!!


★ Mist ☆ Cassidy ★ (rockclimbingirl) | 23 comments I've changed who I shipped so many times, but now I think it's going to firmly stay with Will :)


message 1756: by Aisyah (new)

Aisyah Azalia (ichaazalia) | 6 comments Team jem!! He is so sweeeet!


message 1757: by Tara (new)

Tara I ship Will with myself, ahah


message 1758: by Lo (new)

Lo (darkalleycookies) | 143 comments I used to be a VERY passionate Will fan, but now that I've read CP2 any mention of this series just disgusts me. Of course I still like him (and Jem of course), but they just don't appeal to me the way they did before.


message 1759: by Noor (new)

Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Lo♪ wrote: "I used to be a VERY passionate Will fan, but now that I've read CP2 any mention of this series just disgusts me. Of course I still like him (and Jem of course), but they just don't appeal to me the..."

O.O

WHY? I love this series even more now. (If that's possible)

I'm just curious. I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion. :)


message 1760: by Madi (new)

Madi | 12 comments Finished CP2 a few days ago, and I must say that by the end I'm on Team Will, won't say anything more than that. Don't get me wrong, I mean, Jem's awesome too, but there's just something about Will and Tessa that I love. :) Plus Will is just hilarious. :P


message 1761: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie (atascadaenlibros) | 3 comments JAMES CARSTAIRS FOREVER! <3


message 1762: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie (atascadaenlibros) | 3 comments JAMES CARSTAIRS FOREVER! <3


message 1763: by Enelra (new)

Enelra | 104 comments After reading CP2i fell inlove with Magnus Bane.i still love Will over Jem. I also like the way he had leave his life with Tessa. No complains!


message 1764: by T.J. (new)

T.J. | 226 comments Will! Team Will forever and ever! Jem is cool and nice but I have always loved Will a gazillion times more than Jem. Tessa and Will forever <3 <


message 1765: by Lo (new)

Lo (darkalleycookies) | 143 comments Noor wrote: "Lo♪ wrote: "I used to be a VERY passionate Will fan, but now that I've read CP2 any mention of this series just disgusts me. Of course I still like him (and Jem of course), but they just don't appe..."

I really didn't like the ending. (view spoiler)


Kaitlyn *I Will Never Let Go* | 17 comments I don't think it's really fair to divide into "teams." Maybe that's because I'm passive aggressive and hate conflict, or maybe it's because both the boys in this series captivated me entirely. Following the latter train of thought, Will and Jem are essentially two halves of one soul, and though they are both extraordinarily different, they are also very much the same. They both hid or gave up their own feelings for the good of the people they loved, they both wanted only what was best for those around them, and they both loved strongly, and with burning passion. Of course, there are many differences between the two, as well. Their personalities are far from similar. Personally, I like Will better from the romantic viewpoint, but I like Jem just the same amount, only for different reasons. I think the point of the love triangle was not to make readers pick sides and split into teams, but rather to unite them in their love for both the boys in equal measure. Just as Tessa loved them both equally, I think Cassie wanted us to love Jem and Will equally, as well. That's why the epilogue ended the way it did. Not to pacify both sides, but to bring the story full circle for those who believed there could not be a Jem without a Will, and to love one is to love the other.


message 1767: by [deleted user] (new)

Kaitlyn *I Will Never Let Go* wrote: "I don't think it's really fair to divide into "teams." Maybe that's because I'm passive aggressive and hate conflict, or maybe it's because both the boys in this series captivated me entirely. Foll..."
Ooooooo......
You're good.


message 1768: by [deleted user] (new)

I don't know where to pose this question, but i'll give it a whirl here. Will likes Tessa's hair down, but does that mean Jem likes it up? I rereading Clockwork Prince,and i was just wondering. If anybody could answer,that would be much obliged.


message 1769: by Roo (new)

Roo | 1 comments Could Tessa get re-married after Jem died? I think it should happen... She's really only marring Jem because he's going to die and wants him to be happy, but if he wasn't going to die, I think she would marry Will.


message 1770: by SHINY (new)

SHINY | 22 comments It's a tough choice, both Will & Jem are such great guys. THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!


message 1771: by [deleted user] (new)

Team Will!!!!!!! Jem is very kind, but he was in the way of Will and Tessa. I almost died when I read that Jem proposed to Tessa and she said yes...... Tessa was kind of annoying in the book, torn between two guys, but how can she end up getting them both??!!


message 1772: by Sam (new)

Sam (samsam2222) | 6 comments I agree with joanna wholeheartedly. WIll Tessa


message 1773: by Lo (new)

Lo (darkalleycookies) | 143 comments Mikee wrote: "I agree with joanna wholeheartedly. WIll Tessa "

Okay--just to clarify, in case you got mixed up. I used to be IN LOVE with Will. He literally fit all my characteristics for love interests.

Then I sort of reread the series before Clockwork Princess came out, and Will was great but he wasn't someone I would be interested in romantically anymore.

And Clockwork Princess caused me to dislike the whole series because it was just so dumb. So technically I'm not defending Will, I'm just expressing my opinions on how much I hated CP2.

Just wanted to let you know before I accepted your friend request, in case you wanna withdraw it or whatever.


message 1774: by Sam (new)

Sam (samsam2222) | 6 comments Its quite alright really. Its your choice. :)
I still feel strongly for will. I cant compare him with Jace at all.
WIllx Tessa in the book was on fire. Their hidden desires for each other was so much it hurt. Right from the start their adoration was superbly palpable. I like Jem but he is not the perfect piece of the puzzle for tessa. He is much too delicate and kind for my taste.
That epilogue tore me to pieces. It just shifted in a whole nother universe of whaat.
Some say Cass clare wrote it to please both wessa and jessa shippers. Well i sure am sad for will. But Cass clare says on her tweet that Will is smiling up above, happy for his two beloved people having found each other. I just. No.


message 1775: by Lo (new)

Lo (darkalleycookies) | 143 comments Mikee wrote: "Its quite alright really. Its your choice. :)
I still feel strongly for will. I cant compare him with Jace at all.
WIllx Tessa in the book was on fire. Their hidden desires for each other was so..."


Okay, y'know what Tessa was totally in love with Will for like two whole books and then the third one she's like, "I REALLY CAN'T DECIDE." Her personality became so bland, not just because of this.


message 1776: by Sam (new)

Sam (samsam2222) | 6 comments She was in love with Will. I guess Will pushing tessa away took a toll on her. but do women back then really do that? Accept an instant proposal just because ? What even.

CW3 ruined it for me. That is why for me, I enjoy having a book-hangover on CW2. Will was just so pitiful and passionate then. Id like to think the epilogue didnt happen :p
Btw. Thankyou :)


message 1777: by Lo (new)

Lo (darkalleycookies) | 143 comments Mikee wrote: "She was in love with Will. I guess Will pushing tessa away took a toll on her. but do women back then really do that? Accept an instant proposal just because ? What even.

CW3 ruined it for me. Tha..."


I don't think she was accepting it b/c of that. It was 'cause she was trying to tell herself she did not love Will, and that Jem was so extremely nice, and she already had such deep friendship feelings for him, so they could probably be interpreted as romance feelings. Eh.

Also, Jem was about to die. I don't think she wanted to break his heart.


message 1778: by Sam (new)

Sam (samsam2222) | 6 comments Oh yeah. I guess i forgot about that. She being torn apart with confusion. I think My head is muddled up with will thoughts ugh.
Anyway, I cant believe theyre already casting actors for clockwork.


message 1779: by Lo (new)

Lo (darkalleycookies) | 143 comments Mikee wrote: "Oh yeah. I guess i forgot about that. She being torn apart with confusion. I think My head is muddled up with will thoughts ugh.
Anyway, I cant believe theyre already casting actors for clockwork."


OH MY GOD. WHY. WHY DO THEY HAVE TO MAKE A MOVIE OF EVERY SINGLE FANTASY/SCI-FI/PARANORMAL SERIES IN THIS WHOLE FREAKING WORLD?! WHY.


message 1780: by Sam (new)

Sam (samsam2222) | 6 comments HAHAHA i know! This year theres like a lot more of. Perks ofbeinga wallflower, COB, Percy Sea of monsters, Catching Fire. Even gatsby and les mis. But i enjoyed Warm bodies - both book and movie.
Off topic -.-'


message 1781: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 9 comments Team Will!!!! At the beginning of the series, I was immensely in love with Jem, because I thought Will was being insensible and rude. But by the time I started Clockwork Prince, and Will's story started to unravel, his vulnerability and humour made me love him even more. Also, for some strange reason when Jem became a Silent Brother, I disliked him a bit for doing so...


message 1782: by [deleted user] (last edited Jun 01, 2013 12:30AM) (new)

Samantha wrote: "Team Will!!!! At the beginning of the series, I was immensely in love with Jem, because I thought Will was being insensible and rude. But by the time I started Clockwork Prince, and Will's story s..."

I'm team Will too! I liked him from the start though, but I did hate Jem's becoming a Silent Brother.:( (view spoiler)


message 1783: by Haley (new)

Haley | 3 comments Team jem


message 1784: by Anmol (new)

Anmol (basicallyrun) | 29 comments For Tessa? Will. I love Will and Jem the same, but in totally different ways. I love Will romantically, but I love Jem as a brother or a bestest friend.


message 1786: by Pang (new)

Pang Clearing Series, Will Come Back!! xD | 1 comments Hey eveyone!! Vote for Will Herondale in the final round!! We are shadowhunter. We unit!! Vote NOW!! :D

FINAL ROUND YA CRUSH TOURNEY


message 1787: by Richa (new)

Richa (cityofbooks) | 54 comments Yeah guys come on, Will has to win this!

http://ya-sisterhood.blogspot.sg/2013...


message 1788: by Allison (new)

Allison Janezic (allilj) | 37 comments Am I the only one who thinks that it's okay to have both? I hated what happened to Jem in the beginning but loved the end of the book. If Tessa was forced to choose that would have ruined it for me. Personally I prefer Jem but I am not all that sure that if I were in Tessa's shoes I would have chosen him. Glad I don't have to do that.


message 1789: by Lo (new)

Lo (darkalleycookies) | 143 comments Allison wrote: "Am I the only one who thinks that it's okay to have both? I hated what happened to Jem in the beginning but loved the end of the book. If Tessa was forced to choose that would have ruined it for me..."

I just...I wish it was more realistic.
(I know, me wishing realistic-ness in a fantasy book. But still.)


message 1790: by Lo (new)

Lo (darkalleycookies) | 143 comments Annie wrote: "I was so happy with the ending!"

Yes, many people were.


message 1791: by Lo (new)

Lo (darkalleycookies) | 143 comments Wait, one more thing.

So Jem isn't Bro Zachariah anymore, right? So fkcnagrla; tegwkv>A JRTGL?TBIYU:IBH"K


message 1792: by Jen (new)

Jen (jenhop27) | 1 comments Team Will


message 1793: by Lara (new)

Lara (larak127) | 4 comments Team Will for life!!!!


message 1794: by Mao (new)

Mao (maoistic) | 2 comments Ugh... I still feel betrayed! Jem and Tessa shouldnt be together after Will's death. It's as if they left Will alone somewhere while they are both still alive. :(


message 1795: by Enelra (new)

Enelra | 104 comments dontyou think.it would have beenbetter if Will became the silentt brother instead of jem? it would have been nice to see him and jace together. but i dont thinl there would be jace if tessa and will didnt get together eithr...anyway,i do love the ending though. its sad butoookay. missing will.......


message 1796: by Akasha (new)

Akasha | 7 comments Will always and forever. But I guess Tessa is lucky because she was married to Will and when he died she got to be with Jem, and travel the world with him. So in a way she got both the guys she loved.


message 1797: by Gaby (new)

Gaby | 1 comments Putting aside that I am catastrophically in love with Will's character-- I think there's no doubt Tessa's real love was always Will.
Think about it this way: would there have even been a Jessa if Will had not been "cursed" ? Or would there have been an automatic connection between Will and Tessa, with Jem not even being considered (or Jem considering Tessa himself, since Will would have showed his intentions)
And yet, with everything going against Wessa, it was still always present.
I'm always Team Inevitable Love, and in this case that makes me Team Will


message 1798: by Astrid (new)

Astrid Torres | 8 comments I will always be Team Will!! I just can't deal with that ending, i mean I didn't hate Jem or anything but more than the fact that Tessa ended up with Him and of course, Will's death, for example, for me, is the fear to forgotten because everytime i read clockwork princess i think about all the things that Will and Tessa could have done or when she said that when she found out something funny, he wasn't there anymore, or that she doesn't remember his laugh or the right color of his eyes!!!! Will is always going to be the Tessa life's love <3!!!
Finally i just wanna say that i love will for everything he did or how everyone wanted to kill him , for me it was the most hilarius thing ever!! But most of all because will was not perfect, as some of you had said, but for Tessa it was, he was more than her first love, he was her soulmate and the lost that it's one of the mains facts of why i cry everytime i read the book!! I just can't ... It's my FAVORITE book EVER!!
Team will forever even if i am 50 years old... Always!!!


message 1799: by Ninsch_ (new)

Ninsch_ (nindizzle) | 5 comments Astrid, I SO agree with you!!


message 1800: by BriboSwaggins (new)

BriboSwaggins :) | 4 comments Hmmm... Conflicted.

Okay.

Look, I love Jem and all but you can't help but love Will.

I cried when I read he died.


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