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Team Will vs. Team Jem

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Vixen wrote:"pretending be asleep lol" ahahaha you dont know how many times ive dones that! seriously works everytime my mum falls for it so easuly shes like "aww shes asleep" and im just laughing , well laughing in my head.. THANKS VIXEN! YOU TOO! WE MAKE EACHOTHER LAUGH :)


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Vixen  | 461 comments Elizabeth wrote: "no sorry never i wish i did earleir but not now who doesn't love to read a book and doesn't want to hear there mom at all."

i know right
but an even better solution than tuning her out
GET HER INTERESTED IN READING BOOKS
lol my mom has just started to read the books i do, and i swear never really bugs me now
well if anything she ends up tuning ME out but hey im fine with that, if we're both tuning out the world everyones happy


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Vixen  | 461 comments Sns wrote: "Vixen wrote:"pretending be asleep lol" ahahaha you dont know how many times ive dones that! seriously works everytime my mum falls for it so easuly shes like "aww shes asleep" and im just laughing ..."

yeah same my mom will be like "oh shes sleeping, ssshhh"
but my dad, lol hed be all "i dont car, WAKE HER UP"
ahahahh theyre so different


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aww same me and my mum read jane austen together, emma and pride and prejudice


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Sns wrote: "are not just to engrossed in your book but you pretend to be engrossed in anything so that you dont have to do what she says, sometimes i stare at a potato like its a pot of gold so that my mum doe..."

LOL! 19?? Im 16 so i have an excuse! :)


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Vixen wrote: "i dont car, WAKE HER UP"
ahahahh theyre so different" HAHAHA LMAO!! seriously we are the ultimate comedy team :)


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments oh Sns you said potato????? I thought you said photo!!!!!!!!!! LOL!! HAHAHHA!! :)


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Sns wrote: "Vixen wrote:"pretending be asleep lol" ahahaha you dont know how many times ive dones that! seriously works everytime my mum falls for it so easuly shes like "aww shes asleep" and im just laughing ..."

YES IVE TRIED THAT my mum never buys it. but my brother does!! and in my head Im more like! MUAHHHAHAHAH! IT WORKED!! :D


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HAHAHAHA OKAY THE ULTIMATE NOOR, VIXEN AND SNS COMEDY TEAM , CMON GUYS!


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Aubrey | 37 comments I am totally for Will. He is hilarious.I mean "Never trust a duck" and "Once I thought I was a ferret but it turned out to be the opium haze." Those are hilarous and I love his song about demon pox. Will and Tessa are perfect together.


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Sns wrote: "Vixen wrote: "i dont car, WAKE HER UP"
ahahahh theyre so different" HAHAHA LMAO!! seriously we are the ultimate comedy team :)"


YES u guys should start a comedy show or something! :)


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Sns wrote: "HAHAHAHA OKAY THE ULTIMATE NOOR, VIXEN AND SNS COMEDY TEAM , CMON GUYS!"

AWWW! thanks!! :)


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Aubrey wrote: "I am totally for Will. He is hilarious.I mean "Never trust a duck" and "Once I thought I was a ferret but it turned out to be the opium haze." Those are hilarous and I love his song about demon po..."

those are my fav quotes too!! :D


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AND YOU NOOR! WE ARE IN IT TOGETHER :D


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments THANKS! :) WOOO!


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Aubrey | 37 comments Noor wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "I am totally for Will. He is hilarious.I mean "Never trust a duck" and "Once I thought I was a ferret but it turned out to be the opium haze." Those are hilarous and I love his song..."

I love these books I can't wait to see what Will is like in Clockwork Princess!


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Vixen  | 461 comments Sns wrote: "aww same me and my mum read jane austen together, emma and pride and prejudice"

my mom likes the movies, not a fan of the book
but yeah im not a girly-girl type and i never get emotional during movies unless it has something to do with animals, then ill cry, or books, i cry with books
but we'll watch chick flicks together and i actually like them, but never any tears on my part


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Vixen  | 461 comments Sns wrote: "HAHAHAHA OKAY THE ULTIMATE NOOR, VIXEN AND SNS COMEDY TEAM , CMON GUYS!"

WOOTAGE WE ROCK


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Vixen  | 461 comments Aubrey wrote: "Noor wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "I am totally for Will. He is hilarious.I mean "Never trust a duck" and "Once I thought I was a ferret but it turned out to be the opium haze." Those are hilarous and I ..."

I KNOW!!! we're gonna get to see a genuine will
how cool is that
and i love the never trust a duck line
and the whole unrequited love is a ridiculous state and makes people in them behave ridiculously
i dont think thats word for word idk but yeah love that


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i dont think were going to see a genuine will you know? coz of the whole tessa situation but i could be wrong


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Aubrey | 37 comments Vixen (Victoria) wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "Noor wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "I am totally for Will. He is hilarious.I mean "Never trust a duck" and "Once I thought I was a ferret but it turned out to be the opium haze." Those are ..."

I love it too and I'm also excited to see the genuine Will without any barriers, but I'm kinda curious to see about his sister.?


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i think shes going to be the women version of Will yet more fiesty since she hasnt been through a lot of pain yet again she has hasnt she, her brother leaving, losing her house, her sisters death


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Vixen  | 461 comments Sns wrote: "i dont think were going to see a genuine will you know? coz of the whole tessa situation but i could be wrong"

well true, but at least i think he'll be more open about his feelings, or at least not putting people down constantly cuz hes afraid of being close to anyone right? with tessa, maybe he'll be a more humbled and meeker will, just wanting to win back her affection and make up for treating her the way he did, especially since he probs blames himself for tessa not choosing him and "hating him
and maybe he'll be able to talk to cecily without hiding anything

also wouldnt it be grand if a certain someones little sister makes an appearance and WIll apologizes to her for acted how he acted, quite possibly subduing the rivalry between him and gabriel to a more respectable one just based on fighting and no hard feelings, just trying to see who is better


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Vixen  | 461 comments Sns wrote: "i think shes going to be the women version of Will yet more fiesty since she hasnt been through a lot of pain yet again she has hasnt she, her brother leaving, losing her house, her sisters death"

yeah definitely the female version of will, and shes gonna be even more cynical about trusting will and love and family cuz she sees it as losing her sister and WIll abandoning and betraying her and the family all in one day.

which goes along with my whole theory that cecily all of a sudden wants to be a shadowhunter because she is working with mortmain to get revenge against will for leaving and breaking her heart, and that explains the whole living in mortmain's house thing


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Vixen (Victoria) wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "Noor wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "I am totally for Will. He is hilarious.I mean "Never trust a duck" and "Once I thought I was a ferret but it turned out to be the opium haze." Those are ..."

but dont forget cassie mentioned somewhere that he is still gonna be a little bit like the old will. Its hard to go back to change someone you were for 10 years. Also more than half his life he was fake will so who is the real will? That is what Cassie is saying -not word for word but close.


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YES! i wish gabriel and Will makes friends i love Gabriel i do think she is going to make appearance! with her husband, imagine if Cecily starts meddling with their relationship and tells jem will loves tessa :0


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments and also if he started acting strange Jem and others will notice and get suspicious so he has to act normal, to say that he is ok with Jem and Tess getting married. - cassie said something like taht too.


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Sns wrote: "i think shes going to be the women version of Will yet more fiesty since she hasnt been through a lot of pain yet again she has hasnt she, her brother leaving, losing her house, her sisters death"

Yeah i think more 'witty' and fiesty too


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Aubrey | 37 comments Noor wrote: "Vixen (Victoria) wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "Noor wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "I am totally for Will. He is hilarious.I mean "Never trust a duck" and "Once I thought I was a ferret but it turned out to be th..."

I do agree that will still might not be totally open to everyone because no one ever is. I think a little of the old Will has to be there for us to see him as the same character.


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All part of the revenge at will of course, it is weird how she randomly turns up but maybe shes training because she wants to fight mortmain and free her family?


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Sns wrote: "YES! i wish gabriel and Will makes friends i love Gabriel i do think she is going to make appearance! with her husband, imagine if Cecily starts meddling with their relationship and tells jem will ..."

:O


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Sns wrote: "All part of the revenge at will of course, it is weird how she randomly turns up but maybe shes training because she wants to fight mortmain and free her family?"

yeah.. why did she show up... hmm..
ok i need to refresh stop me if im making stuff up.

Cecily and family lived in Mortmain's old house? yes?
did we find out why?

and if mortmain was helping their family (in cecily's eyes he is being helpful Im guessing) then why would she turn against mortmain?


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Vixen  | 461 comments Noor wrote: "Vixen (Victoria) wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "Noor wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "I am totally for Will. He is hilarious.I mean "Never trust a duck" and "Once I thought I was a ferret but it turned out to be th..."

true too. excellent point
will is still gonna be his sarcastic, dry-humoured witty self. thats just part of his personality. but i think at least hope he wont try to hide behind it as much when a conversation turns serious or try to run away from the problem or something...im not quite saying it right how it is in my head, so i hope you get what im tyring to say lol


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Maybe she knows something the rest of her family dont? or when she spoke to ragoner he let out more then he should of, about mortmain?


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yeah they live in his old house


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Vixen  | 461 comments Sns wrote: "YES! i wish gabriel and Will makes friends i love Gabriel i do think she is going to make appearance! with her husband, imagine if Cecily starts meddling with their relationship and tells jem will ..."

i think she will, one day out of anger at least
especially if will becomes the big brother over-protective type, shes gonna think that he has no right and hes a hypocrite and maybe threaten to tell jem or does just out of spite lol


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Aubrey | 37 comments Vixen (Victoria) wrote: "Noor wrote: "Vixen (Victoria) wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "Noor wrote: "Aubrey wrote: "I am totally for Will. He is hilarious.I mean "Never trust a duck" and "Once I thought I was a ferret but it turned..."

I understand and I totally agree! :)


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OR maybe when she said to ragoner that mortmain is an old family friend, Mortmain might have threatened her to say that? ok im going of track


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Vixen  | 461 comments Sns wrote: "All part of the revenge at will of course, it is weird how she randomly turns up but maybe shes training because she wants to fight mortmain and free her family?"

thats a good point too, but then CC has to somehow instill in the story cecilly forgiving will, because we all know thats shes gotta hve one hell of a grudge!


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yeah but i think after he explains she'l deffo forgive him i mean i would!


message 1041: by Aubrey (new)

Aubrey | 37 comments It would be really hard though after 10 years or whatever :(


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i think they will who cannot love tessa?


message 1043: by Noor (last edited Mar 25, 2012 03:27PM) (new)

Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Vixen (Victoria) wrote: "but i think at least hope he wont try to hide behind it as much when a conversation turns serious or try to run away from the problem or something...im not quite saying it right how it is in my head, so i hope you get what im tyring to say lol "

I hope so too!


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Vixen  | 461 comments idk i think tessa will try to defend will to cecily, and cecily will dislike tessa for it, holding too much of a grudge

or she might be jealous that he clearly risked enough to stay with tessa and jem and whatever but not with her


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Sns wrote: "yeah they live in his old house"

Did we find out why he kept them so close and why he offered the house?


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Aubrey wrote: "I understand and I totally agree! :)"

:)


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so he can have control over will i think


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Sns wrote: "yeah but i think after he explains she'l deffo forgive him i mean i would!"

Yeah i think she might have a grudge then Will would explain then she would forgive him


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Sns wrote: "i think they will who cannot love tessa?"

:) yeah!


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Noor (noor_a) | 273 comments Vixen (Victoria) wrote: "idk i think tessa will try to defend will to cecily, and cecily will dislike tessa for it, holding too much of a grudge

or she might be jealous that he clearly risked enough to stay with tessa and..."


Hmm.. you have a point with the jealous thing... i dunno


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