The Infernal Devices discussion
Team Will vs. Team Jem

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Sadly, I do think Jem is going to die in Clockwork Princess. If you've read both series you've probably noticed that most of the surnames that appear in The Infernal Devices..."
That`s waht I thought too! I didn`t see any Carstairs ):

I will go and rant endlessly. AND I WILL GO COMPLAIN TO CASSANDRA. EVERY DAY. She will get spam mail, sorry.

I'm not sure if I would spam Cassie or not though... I love Cassie and her spoilers! But I have a pretty strong feeling that I actually WILL cry if Jem dies... :'( Dang, heartbreak at 13... and not even with real men! :P

LOL... me too!

I love Will as well, after reading Clockwork Prince, my opinion of him totally changed. However, I still prefer Jem over him, but I do hope he gets a nice life, especially since his sister has returned!

I love Will as well, after reading Clockwork Prince, my opinion of him totally changed. However, I still prefer Jem over him, ..."
I so agree. I don't really have a problem with Will. I even think he is really funny! However, Jem is my favorite and that still hasn't changed.



I stared too... along with all of my friends! Hahhaah no one got any work done that week... hehehe. :P Jem also got a lot of people to try reading the first one! :D

wondering why well tell me which way you guy..."
Jem's hair isn't blonde its Silver =_=
Elizabeth wrote: "okay then do u have a link so i can see what she looks like?"
The cover isn't released yet! Cassie told us from the beginning the order in which the characters were going to appear on the books
The cover isn't released yet! Cassie told us from the beginning the order in which the characters were going to appear on the books

The cover isn't released yet! Cassie told us from the beginning the order in which the characters were going to appe..."
It's obviously going to be Tessa on the front cover. Will was first and Jem is on clockwork Prince (The Cane he is holding)


Lisa wrote: "And also I agree, I don't think Jem looks right on the cover! He should be more delicate and slim. Oh and paler and more silvery. Other than that it's still a very pretty cover.
Eep the more I thin..."
OR they're bisexual and get into a polygamous marriage lol =P
Eep the more I thin..."
OR they're bisexual and get into a polygamous marriage lol =P


furthermore, we, as readers, do not get the full picture. it is kinda unfair to even pick. we all love will because he's bold and funny, and we've heard him and seen how he feels for tessa. we've listened to him talk about he name and we've seen him tortured with the thoughts of the curse and her safety. this is what makes us fall in love with him.
we were not given that opportunity with jem. we can see how will and tess interpret jem's words/actions, but we never get to hear what those thoughts/feelings are from jem himself. (at least i cannot recall this from either book...i know there was 1 short story from his perspective, but unfortunately i have not been able to read it.) we do not know if he tortures himself because he is scared of losing her...we have not been able to see the emotional vulnerabilities that jem most certainly has...
jem may indeed be just as passionate as will, (he certainly was in the bedroom after he dragged will back from the opium den). but this is something we are never allowed to see. we don't get the opportunity to look inside jem's mind, as we were to will's, so we naturally gravitate towards will.
magnus said we all love what is beautiful and broken. we see jem as physically broken...we are not given a first hand emotional element to accompany this. on the other hand, will is most definitely emotionally broken, and there are way too many of us women out there who love nothing more than to try to fix an emotionally messed up boy...especially one with black hair and blue eyes.
i guess what i'm trying to say, is that will may have won this with the reader's...but it was never a fair fight.
Alison wrote: "okay...so, let me start by saying that i like both these boys. they are very different, and in some sense you really can't compare them. to use tessa's words, one is air, and the other fire.
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I like/agree with your comment. We see Will's perspective but almost never Jem's. I honestly don't like the bad boy type/tortured, messed up guys personally. I like them as characters, but not as a potential guy I'd be attracted to and want to be with. And yeah when it comes to love triangle's or anything in general it's never fair.
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I like/agree with your comment. We see Will's perspective but almost never Jem's. I honestly don't like the bad boy type/tortured, messed up guys personally. I like them as characters, but not as a potential guy I'd be attracted to and want to be with. And yeah when it comes to love triangle's or anything in general it's never fair.
I feel like cassandra whants us to be team Will, because she writes way more about Will then Jem, we know so much about Wills past and so little about Jems and it sounds like there is going to be a lot more about WIll in cp2 because his sister arriving and mortmain having a hold over his family, because I know more about him I can't help but be team Will
Books mentioned in this topic
Clockwork Prince (other topics)City of Ashes (other topics)
Clockwork Prince (other topics)
Sadly, I do think Jem is going to die in Clockwork Princess. If you've read both series you've probably noticed that most of the surnames that appear in The Infernal Devices..."
I always thought I would be able to handle it if Jem were to die... after just reading probably the most tragic thing I've ever read in a book (for me) I just... I just know I can't. I am actually really depressed now... dang. But no seriously, Jem cannot die. HE CANNOT.