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Seth Meyer, rot in hell.
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INDEED! Imma breakin it down!Heather,
First, let me assure you that I will not forward this email to Stephenie. You say that you are not looking to hurt her, but it would be ignorant to believe that criticism of any kind does not hurt the person to whom it is directed.
Or, your sister is a pussy because I would hurt her teeny tiny brain.
I didn't even forward any of the 35 emails that I received today telling me (or Stephenie) how much they loved Breaking Dawn, how the series changes their lives, etc.
Wait, what!? These people loved it, why didn't you send it to her!?
There are a few other reasons why I would not forward the link to this "petition." (By the way, you have heard that online petitions never generate results, right?).
I heartily smack you and call you a jackass. A petition for PMU horses online has gotten a good result insofar!
I disagree that it is "well written." Besides the grammar mistakes (which are not hard to overlook), you address the letter to Stephenie, but by the end of the first paragraph you refer to "Meyer" in the third person. I am not sure if you are speaking to her or not. Also, the "signatures" (which are completely invalid) are not just names, but a discussion board.
*pulls out gun* EXCUSE ME, BUT YOUR SISTER CAN DEFEND HERSELF!
I went to one page and found three people defending Breaking Dawn and saying things like "I am surrounded by self absorbed teenagers or adults that think they can write better books and never do!"
What's your point?
And, although I got very bored and wasn't able to read the entire "petition,"
OI! How dare you be so rude!
I want to try to answer a few of your main points (although I'm sure that Stephenie's answers would be a lot better than mine):
Then send the damn email to her!
#1 and #2: At the end of Eclipse, Alice specifically says that nobody has ever made the conscious decision to become a vampire, and so none of them had any idea how Bella would handle the entire process.
They KNEW she'd love it, douche! She kept asking!
#3 and #4 (and everything else in your petition)
Didn't bother to read it, remember?
: These books are fiction. They are filled with FICTIONAL characters that Stephenie made up all by herself.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...
In an attempt to keep the books clean and not make young girls think about things that they don't need to think about, no other book mentioned anything about reproductive systems. They are Stephenie's characters, she can decide anything that she wants.
I'll bet she can decide to read this damn thing!
And finally, Heather, your letter is not respectful at all. It is libelous in many instances. I would be embarrassed to say such things about someone who I have never met.
You bastard! COME OVER HERE AND SAY THAT!!! Besides, you're being just as rude.
The one part I agree with him is the boring part... I read like the first part of the petition, then gave up.
Yup..no wonder he has no life outside of deleting his sister's emails.
Seth needs to get a life. I wonder how much it pays to delete SMeyers's emails... -_-
I would write rude ones to her myself and say they were from fans. >:D
YESH! I can see it now..."I SWEAR Stephenie! I don't know how it got through my filters! HONEST!"
Dear Lord, this guy needs help. I think I have my letterDear Seth,
Hi, I'm Randi, former fan of the Twilight Saga. I'm not an extremist when it comes to putting down the series, but I would like to tell you what I think about your e-mail forwarding.
I think Stephanie needs some help with her writing. And one of the best ways to get better at writing is constructive critiques from people. So if you only forward positive messages to Ms.Meyer, how will she ever get better?
Believe me, I am a writer. And constructive critiques have helped me so much. I would send links, but I don't want to take up too much time.
In conclusion, I would highly advise re-thinking your e-mail system.
Thanks,
Randi
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT FAMILY?!seriously, if sm is a worldwide best seller (ha ha ha), she's got to expect criticism. take J.K. Rowling, for instance- when hp got banned in some places for encouraging sorcery, she didn't shy away from it and let her brother (though i don't think she has one!) protect her from it.
And that is one of the many, many reasons that J.K. Rowling will always be better than stephenie meyer.
J.K. Rowling is not even on the same spectrum as Meyer. Jo has posts on the web and she is always nice. Meyer is a stuck up cuss that needs to swearing get her head out of the cussing clouds.
And i swearing want to kick that cussing swear in the cuss! stupid cussing Seth.
Has he ever heard of CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Apparently not.
in that case- two, if not three, generations are being ruined by this rubbish.
Si, Laura, Si. BWAHAHAHA I'M SPEAKING A LANGUAGE THAT'S NOT ENGLISH!!Mostly because I don't know how to say yes in Latin... ita vera??? I know no is "minime!"
HA. MINIME.
Obviously the characters are fictional beings that Stephanie Meyer has created. She can do anything she wants with them as long as it doesn't go against the rules of the fictional universe she created. For example, if she says that when you become a vampire all your natural bodily fluids stop, then it would be impossible for a vampire to have children. If Heather's grammar mistakes are not hard to overlook, then why are you bringing them up? Doesn't that mean they had to be minor errors? If you did not read the entire petition, how do you know it was 'libelous' and had many grammar mistakes? By the way, I read the whole petition and it was not libelous (harmful and often untrue; tending to discredit or malign), but an honest opinion with valid criticisms and as respectful as can be when one is criticizing something. In closing, Seth, you are a royal asshole who has no right to stop Stephanie from getting her emails, even if they are negative. These emails would help Stephanie develop her writing so that the next time she writes a book it won't have almost as many plot flaws as the Bible.
IT'S NAZINESS! XDYeah, but you got a point, Lil.
THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME NAZINESS GOING ON. PERSONALLY, I THINK THIS SETH GUY NEEDS TO TAKE SOME MIDOL AND KEEP HIS NOSE OUT OF WHERE IS DOESN'T BELONG.
i agree! :P ...except the bible part...
IT'S CAPS LOCK FRIDAY! EVERYTHING IS IN CAPS LOCK BECAUSE CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME! :P
I HATE SEPH MORE THAN STEPH. I ALSO HATE CAPS LOCK FRIDAY.
I HATE THEIR PARENTS! WHY WHY WHY DID THEY BRING THEM INTO THIS WORLD?????
SETH AND STEPH RYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYME!
Ravenclaw26 wrote: "I HATE SEPH MORE THAN STEPH. I ALSO HATE CAPS LOCK FRIDAY."DO NOT DISS CAPS LOCK FRIDAY! CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME. CAPS LOCK CURES CANCER! YOU BLASPHEME! NOBODY IS ASKING YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN CAPS LOCK FRIDAY! YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO IT! CAPS LOCK FRIDAY IS FOR AWESOME PEOPLE BECAUSE CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME! IF YOU WISH TO LOSERCASE NOBODY WILL STOP YOU! CAPS LOCK FRIDAY IS FOR AWESOME, HYPER PEOPLE!
CAPS LOCK FRIDAY HAS BEEN A SUCCESS! ALL FLAIL CAPS LOCK SATURDAY! *FLAIL FLAIL* NOW FLAIL AT THE NOSEY EVIL NAZI ROYAL ASSHOLE SETH MEYER! FLAIL! FLAIL!P.S. I DO REALIZE I AM COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY BATSHIZ CRAZY.
Well, Caps Lock Friday is at an end.
so long... till next week :Dmissing you already- not...
oh and seth and steph don't rhyme, but you know, i can see where SM got her originality from, seeing as her parents are overflowing with it (sarcasm hand raised)
Seth Meyer is her son, Seth Morgan is her brother. Make sure to check all of your facts next time. This boy is 14 and doesn't deserve to be yelled at, while Seth Morgan on the other hand, should be held responsible for his actions. I agree that he should let some critiques email her, but a lot of people who hate twilight just basically say things that don't help. A lot of things that people say is stuff like "You suck" and other things like that. All though, she is around 43-ish now, and a lot of writers who write major series don't write more books. While I understand where you are coming from, I don't see the need for people to use such vulgar language.
Seth is Stephenie Meyer's brother. He runs her site and also comes off as arrogant. He does not allow any emails to reach his sister that say anything short of OMG STEPHANEI U R MAZNG A LIETRARY J3SUS AND GOD!11!1 LOL I LUV UR BOKS TH3Y R MASTERPEC3S!1!!!1!1!, preventing Meyer from receiving any kind of criticism, which is not helping with her apparent case of narcissism. A big example of this is this petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/BDFaile...
If this is a case of TL;DR (too long; didn't read) for you, the petition demands an explanation for the fail that is Breaking Dawn. Actually, all these people want is to be acknowledged by Meyer, as she brushes off everyone who doesn't like it as a "minority" who will either "get used to it" or are "impossible to please." It points out the flaws in the book. When it got 1000 signatures, this letter was sent to Seth:
Seth,
I completely understand that you are not the whipping boy for Stephenie Meyer, but she has given us no address to reach her directly, so sadly, I have few choices- and one of them was to send this to you.
My name is Heather Faust, and I have written a letter to Stephenie and to Little, Brown. As suggested by a number of others on message boards, I posted this letter as a "petition." Today we reached a thousand signatures. (It has only been live for a few days.) We will continue to leave it live and see how it grows.
I feel that it is well written and respectful, and I would hope that you would take a few minutes to read it. If it gets through to Stephenie, well, I'd be thrilled. We are not looking to hurt her, we aren't looking for her to rewrite it... We just want our opinions acknowledged, and we'd like to no longer be referred to as a "vocal minority." We'd also love it if she'd be able to answer our concerns with more than just "it's fiction," "I'm not a biology major" or other brush offs. We don't, of course expect that at all. But just a simple "Yes, I hear you, I'm sorry that you were disappointed" would be enough for us.
Anyway, sorry that you are in the middle of all of this. That must suck for you.
Thanks for your time
I like the above letter. It's polite, and clearly all they want is for Meyer to stop ignoring the people who have some well founded criticism for Breaking Dawn. Here is Seth's response:
Heather,
First, let me assure you that I will not forward this email to Stephenie. You say that you are not looking to hurt her, but it would be ignorant to believe that criticism of any kind does not hurt the person to whom it is directed. I didn't even forward any of the 35 emails that I received today telling me (or Stephenie) how much they loved Breaking Dawn, how the series changes their lives, etc.
There are a few other reasons why I would not forward the link to this "petition." (By the way, you have heard that online petitions never generate results, right?). I disagree that it is "well written." Besides the grammar mistakes (which are not hard to overlook), you address the letter to Stephenie, but by the end of the first paragraph you refer to "Meyer" in the third person. I am not sure if you are speaking to her or not. Also, the "signatures" (which are completely invalid) are not just names, but a discussion board. I went to one page and found three people defending Breaking Dawn and saying things like "I am surrounded by self absorbed teenagers or adults that think they can write better books and never do!"
And, although I got very bored and wasn't able to read the entire "petition," I want to try to answer a few of your main points (although I'm sure that Stephenie's answers would be a lot better than mine):
#1 and #2: At the end of Eclipse, Alice specifically says that nobody has ever made the conscious decision to become a vampire, and so none of them had any idea how Bella would handle the entire process.
#3 and #4 (and everything else in your : These books are fiction. They are filled with FICTIONAL characters that Stephenie made up all by herself. In an attempt to keep the books clean and not make young girls think about things that they don't need to think about, no other book mentioned anything about reproductive systems. They are Stephenie's characters, she can decide anything that she wants.
And finally, Heather, your letter is not respectful at all. It is libelous in many instances. I would be embarrassed to say such things about someone who I have never met.
What. A. Fucking. Asshole. He is a jack ass with a capital JACKASS!