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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Hi Dale and welcome to the group :)


message 4502: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3592 comments Welcome Dale, nice to have you join us. A very great service to translate all those books at the expense of brain cell energy! The Eastern Front is so important and so little is known in the West.


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Gary (folionut) | 213 comments Dale Medley wrote: "I have been instructed to say 'Hi' to everyone.

Hi.

Funny thing with me and WW2 books. I spend all day translating Russian-language books on it. When I'm done, I have no brain cells remaining to ..."


Welcome, Dale – I totally get your brain exhaustion – keep up the good work. I hope you find a bit of information here to give you an occasional burst of inspiration to read WWII for pleasure. :-)


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Darin Pepple | 6 comments Liam wrote: "Yes, welcome to the group, Darin! I'll second Gary's comment above about expense, but I suspect that after majoring in military history you are no doubt already just as hopelessly addicted to books..."

Hey Liam - oh absolutely agree. I've maturely realized I can't own all the books..

For Sealion - from my studies it wasn't so much that the Wehrmacht was lacking talent in 1940 but that of logistics, aerial strategy, naval power, and Nazi ideology.

The Wehrmacht was exhausted, the German Airborne Corps or Fallschirmjagers especially were depleted after Belgium and needed time to refit. Luftwaffe strategy as you know was flawed under Goring but eventually they started winning once they started attacking everything (radar, airfields, industry). However, Hitler's re-directing them to bomb London erased those gains. And despite the amphibious assault would have been a gamble at best, with the sheer size of the Royal Navy. Most likely they would have slaughtered the invasion troops in their landing craft like they did off Crete later in the war. And finally Hitler with his kooky Aryan worldview just thought the Brits would eventually join him and started refocusing the Heer for Russia in the Fall of 1940.

Neat to be in a group that can discuss these things! -Darin


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Derek Nudd | 278 comments Darin wrote: "For Sealion - from my studies it wasn't so much that the Wehrmacht was lacking talent in 1940 but that of logistics, aerial strategy, naval power, and Nazi ideology."

In 1974 the Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst conducted a wargame which exercised the German invasion plan against the British defence plan. The three German and three British umpires unanimously concluded that the initial landings would succeed, but the assault would peter out even before reaching the first hastily-improvised ‘stop-line’ owing to the Kriegsmarine’s inability to protect cross-Channel traffic for reinforcement, resupply and eventually evacuation.


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Gary (folionut) | 213 comments Derek wrote: "Darin wrote: "For Sealion - from my studies it wasn't so much that the Wehrmacht was lacking talent in 1940 but that of logistics, aerial strategy, naval power, and Nazi ideology."

In 1974 the Roy..."


That is fascinating.


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Darin Pepple | 6 comments In 1974 the Roy..."

Derek - very cool. Do you have a link or source for that 1974 study? I'd love to read it.

Thanks
-Darin


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Derek Nudd | 278 comments There is a Wikipedia article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operati... with onward links. I was reminded to look for it by having seen a TV documentary at the time. I have also just had a flick through Derek Robinson's Invasion, 1940: Did the Battle of Britain Alone Stop Hitler? - he also gives much of the credit to a 'silent victory' by the RN but doesn't (as far as I can see) mention the wargame.


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Darin Pepple | 6 comments Excellent Derek. Very cool - thanks for sharing this. My professors would also have grilled me on this during my Thesis Defense if they had known about it. :)


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Bernice Lerner | 30 comments I am very excited to be part of this group, and know already that I will be frustrated by my inability to read all the recommended books. (I will for sure read some!) I've published two books on aspects of the war; having immersed myself in details, I've led a double life--the present and a past that seems present.


message 4511: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3592 comments Bernice wrote: "I am very excited to be part of this group, and know already that I will be frustrated by my inability to read all the recommended books. (I will for sure read some!) I've published two books on as..."

Welcome Bernice, great to have you join us. We all share the same frustration plus wanting to get more books than our budgets will allow.


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Marc | 1746 comments Welcome to the group, Bernice.


message 4513: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Welcome to the group, Bernice, we all know how you feel :)


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Gary (folionut) | 213 comments Bernice wrote: "I am very excited to be part of this group, and know already that I will be frustrated by my inability to read all the recommended books. (I will for sure read some!) I've published two books on as..."

Welcome, Bernice – good to have you on board. :-)


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Reshteen | 5 comments Hi everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself and say that It is good to be here. I have been a reader all through my life, but as one's tastes evolve, I discovered my interest for non-fiction, and history, especially of this period -- WW2-- recently. So I'm happy that I have found this group and look forward to being a part of discussions that follow.


message 4516: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (last edited May 29, 2021 12:44PM) (new)

Mike | 3592 comments Welcome Reshteen, great to have you join us. Let us know what you are interested in reading and we might have a few suggestions.


message 4517: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited May 15, 2021 02:24PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Welcome to the group Reshteen, glad you found us.


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Gary (folionut) | 213 comments Reshteen wrote: "Hi everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself and say that It is good to be here. I have been a reader all through my life, but as one's tastes evolve, I discovered my interest for non-fiction, ..."


Hi Reshteen, welcome. :-)


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Dipanjan (bengali) | 115 comments welcome Reshteen and Bernice to the group


message 4520: by Dimitri (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments Welcome Reshteen & Bernice. Your TBR will become neverending.


message 4521: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1746 comments Welcome aboard, Reshteen.


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happy (happyone) | 2281 comments As usual, I'm a day late and a dollar short on welcoming our new members, but....

Welcome, Welcome Rashteen, Bernice, Dale and anyone I've missed:)


message 4523: by Vincent (new)

Vincent (vpbrancato) Joining you because the subject is of interest & i knew of some of you from The History Book Club on Goodreads


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Vincent wrote: "Joining you because the subject is of interest & i knew of some of you from The History Book Club on Goodreads"

Welcome, Vincent.


message 4525: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Hi Vincent and welcome to the group.


message 4526: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3592 comments Welcome Vincent, nice to have you join up.


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happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Vincent - let me add my welcome to the group

Welcome!


message 4528: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1746 comments Welcome aboard, Vincent.


message 4529: by Vincent (new)

Vincent (vpbrancato) Well - thanks for all the welcomes - I am in the midst of a few books to do an overall WWII history with A World at Arms - Gerhard Weinberg author - as a fulcrum but got occupied with other projects and obligations - will get back to it still this month I hope - in a lighter, sort of, reading g on WWII I saw a Lanny Budd novel by Upton Sinclair who I had always thought of only really for the Jungle so I tried it - they read fast and easy and the first was published in 1940 - so I guess written in 1939 and it is amazing what he foresaw from Nazi Germany. A bit much of a socialist focus but none the less really interesting - Lanny Budd, not to spoil it for anyone, goes thru those years sort of like a clever semi-worldly Forrest Gump - meets everyone etc - anyway glad to be with you all. Hope to add some interesting contributions. and just as a comment I wanted to read the Max Hastings WWII overall book but a historian friend of mine recommended the Weinberg book which is also interesting as it is really going into political reasonings. anyway - glad to be here


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Gary (folionut) | 213 comments Vincent wrote: "Joining you because the subject is of interest & i knew of some of you from The History Book Club on Goodreads"

Welcome, Vincent. Hope you enjoy the discussions.


message 4531: by Medusa (new)

Medusa Hi all. New member. Lifelong student of military history (and many other things - philosophy and law among them). Looking forward to hearing y’all’s thoughts and having another source for books to read and consider. Cheers.


message 4532: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Hi Medusa, welcome to the group, do you have any particular area of WW2 that interests you the most?


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Medusa wrote: "Hi all. New member. Lifelong student of military history (and many other things - philosophy and law among them). Looking forward to hearing y’all’s thoughts and having another source for books to ..."

Welcome, Medusa. With "y'all's thoughts," are you a fellow Southerner?


message 4534: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3592 comments Medusa wrote: "Hi all. New member. Lifelong student of military history (and many other things - philosophy and law among them). Looking forward to hearing y’all’s thoughts and having another source for books to ..."

Welcome Medusa, nice to have you join the group.


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Marc | 1746 comments Welcome to the group, Medusa.


message 4536: by Jonny (new)

Jonny | 2114 comments Late as usual, but welcome to the party Reshteen, Vincent, Medusa and anyone else I've (inadvertently) dropped from the list.


message 4537: by Medusa (new)

Medusa Thanks for the welcome. I can’t say there’s a particular area of WW2 that interests me most at this point - over the years I’ve read so much on virtually all of the set piece battles on all fronts, and widely on the war in the air in all theaters too. In the last six months though I’ve read Beevor’s Fall of Berlin and Spanish Civil War, Batalion’s Light of Days, Purnell’s Woman of No Importance, Alexievitch’s Unwomanly Face of War, Tachovsky’s 40 Thieves on Saipan. I highly recommend Unwomanly Face of War and Woman of No Importance. In my lifetime it has been great to see more stories and scholarship about women in war - particularly as a woman I want to hear these stories and bear witness. (For me, bearing witness is one of the most important things we do when we read history ).

Not from the South but lived there a long time and my wife is from there, so certain habits of speech became permanent.


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Gary (folionut) | 213 comments Welcome Medusa!


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Iain Boatman | 15 comments Hello, my name is Iain and I have recently joined the group and I’m looking forward to participating. Some of the WW2 books that I have read include:
1. They Fought Alone: The True Story of SOEs Agents in Wartime France, by Maurice Buckmaster (2014).

2.Panzer Commander: The Memoirs of Hans von Luck (2013).

3. Der Kapitan: U Boat Ace Hans Rose by Markus Robinson and Gertrude Robinbson (2018). This covers his career across WW1 and WW2.

I’m currently reading (purchased before I joined your Group):
Uncle Bill: The Authorised Biography of Field Marshal Viscount Slim (2013).

I appreciate that you may have discussed some ofr all of these as I’m still getting to grips with the threads. Iain


message 4540: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19981 comments Hi Iain and a warm welcome to the group. You mentioned some pretty good books there! I hope you find a few things here in the group to interest you.


message 4541: by Jonny (new)

Jonny | 2114 comments Welcome to the group Iain, nave ready for a flood of recommendations!


message 4542: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3592 comments Welcome Iain, nice to have you join the group. Those are some good books you listed.


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Iain wrote: "Hello, my name is Iain and I have recently joined the group and I’m looking forward to participating. Some of the WW2 books that I have read include:
1. They Fought Alone: The True Story of SOEs Ag..."


Welcome, Iain!


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Dimitri | 1413 comments Iain wrote: "Hello, my name is Iain and I have recently joined the group and I’m looking forward to participating. Some of the WW2 books that I have read include:
1. They Fought Alone: The True Story of SOEs Ag..."


Welcome Iain. We've done Hans Von Luck somewhere for sure.


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Marc | 1746 comments Welcome aboard, Iain!


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Chris Wray | 41 comments Welcome to the group!


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Perato | 231 comments Welcome welcome Iain, be sure to join the group reads!


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Gary (folionut) | 213 comments Iain wrote: "Hello, my name is Iain and I have recently joined the group and I’m looking forward to participating. Some of the WW2 books that I have read include:
1. They Fought Alone: The True Story of SOEs Ag..."


Hi Iain, welcome to the group. I have bought Viscount Slim's Defeat Into Victory – the story of his victory in Burma, although I haven't had a chance to read it yet. I would very interested to hear your views on his biography you are reading once you have digested it all. I look forward to your review – but no pressure if you don't want to write one. :-)


message 4549: by Iain (new)

Iain Boatman | 15 comments Thanks Gary. I will definitely write a review. I’m finding Uncle Bill a clearly written and fascinating read.


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BMMHS | 2 comments Glimpses of War: Volume 1

Hi everyone

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Enjoy the read and its in a great cause!


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