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Introduction to the WW2 Site - Please Say Hi

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message 3601: by Colin (new)

Colin Heaton (colin1962) | 2011 comments Manray9 wrote: "David wrote: "Thanks for allowing me to join the group. My name is David. I have my MA in history from Temple University. My primary areas of interest are World War Two, the Civil War and the Colon..."

Congrats I received my MA from Temple in 1998 also.


message 3602: by Mario (new)

Mario | 1 comments Hello mates. I am Mario, 39, from Spain.

I am really interested in books and all stuff about war, mainly WWII, but I want to read about more war conflicts.

Thanks to all.


message 3603: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4785 comments Mario wrote: "Hello mates. I am Mario, 39, from Spain.

I am really interested in books and all stuff about war, mainly WWII, but I want to read about more war conflicts.

Thanks to all."


Welcome, Mario.


message 3604: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Hi Mario and welcome to the group, we also have threads discussing the Great War, along with Pre and Post 1945 conflicts as well.


message 3605: by zed (new)

zed  (4triplezed) | 951 comments Hello and welcome to the new members.


message 3606: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1748 comments Welcome Mario, and a belated welcome to Joaniepony as well!


message 3607: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Let me add my welcome to Mario

Welcome, Welcome!!


message 3608: by Suz (new)

Suz | 8 comments Welcome!!


message 3609: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3595 comments Mario wrote: "Hello mates. I am Mario, 39, from Spain.

I am really interested in books and all stuff about war, mainly WWII, but I want to read about more war conflicts.

Thanks to all."


Hi Mario, welcome to the group!


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Amanda | 16 comments Hi everyone. I became interested in learning about WWII because my grandfather served during the war. The family understood not to ask him about his experiences, so I started reading about the war in an effort to learn what it was like for him. I tend to gravitate towards books that focus on 1 soldier's experiences or a specific unit during WWII. I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone else is reading!


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Amanda wrote: "Hi everyone. I became interested in learning about WWII because my grandfather served during the war. The family understood not to ask him about his experiences, so I started reading about the war ..."

Welcome, Amanda. You'll find plenty of recommendations here.


message 3612: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1748 comments Amanda wrote: "Hi everyone. I became interested in learning about WWII because my grandfather served during the war. The family understood not to ask him about his experiences, so I started reading about the war ..."

Welcome aboard, Amanda! If there is a particular unit or battle you're interested in, don't hesitate to ask. I'm sure someone in the group can point you in the right direction!


message 3613: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Hi Amanda and a warm welcome to our group, I hope you enjoy your time here.


message 3614: by zed (new)

zed  (4triplezed) | 951 comments Hello Amanda.


message 3615: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3595 comments Welcome to the group Amanda, nice to have you here.


message 3616: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Welcome to the Group, Amanda!


message 3617: by Dimitri (last edited Nov 07, 2017 03:59AM) (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments 1) Joaniepony wrote: "I'm here to discuss WWI and WWII
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2) Thanks for allowing me to join the group. My name is David. I have my MA in history from Temple University. My primary areas of interest are World War Two, the Civil War and the Colonia Era, Revolutionary War and early U.S. history. I look forward to both reading your discussions and contributing to them.

3) Hi everyone. I became interested in learning about WWII because my grandfather served during the war. The family understood not to ask him about his experiences, so I started reading about the war in an effort to learn what it was like for him. I tend to gravitate towards books that focus on 1 soldier's experiences or a specific unit during WWII. I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone else is reading


Welcome, Joaniepony.

"I'm here to discuss WWI & WWII"
Remind me to bend the knee to the girl who uses that phrase on a first date!
James Joll'sThe Origins of the First World War
is a reliable primer on the events. The War That Ended Peace: The Road To 1914 is a good pair with The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914 if you want the latest on the origins of WWI. Just don't dive too deep, it's a discussion without end a century onwards since everybody was to blame to some extent.

Welcome, David. I'll make sure to mine your shelves for American history in all its respects, always a plus to have a historical interest that spans centuries.

Welcome, Amanda. Glad to see you found it ;-)
Do you know what unit your grandfather served in ? Then we can frame him for you.


message 3618: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 16 comments He served in Patton's 3rd Army - 5th Division, 11th Infantry, and was in a heavy weapons company. I've found the Division's Historical Society and have read the write up of their role in WWII. I've also read Unless Victory Comes: Combat With a World War II Machine Gunner in Patton's Third Army which describes being a heavy weapons infantry in Patton's 3rd. While I am interested in any books that discuss the 5th Division's role in the war, I've found that I just enjoy reading about people's experiences in the war.


message 3619: by Dimitri (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments Amanda wrote: "He served in Patton's 3rd Army - 5th Division, 11th Infantry, and was in a heavy weapons company. ."

You mean the "Red Diamond" ?
http://www.societyofthefifthdivision....


message 3620: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 16 comments Yup, that's it!


message 3621: by Dimitri (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments Gentlemen, start your recommendations.


message 3622: by Joaniepony (new)

Joaniepony Amanda wrote: "Hi everyone. I became interested in learning about WWII because my grandfather served during the war. The family understood not to ask him about his experiences, so I started reading about the war ..."
Hi Amanda,
It is a "circle" "What caused the war?" . Then you start at WWI, then find you need to go back further. Seems wars are all unfinished.


message 3623: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Nov 07, 2017 03:43PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments In regards to the Fifth Infantry Division the only other book I am aware of after "Unless Victory Comes" is this book which may interest Amanda:

A Footsoldier for Patton The Story of a "Red Diamond" Infantryman with the U.S. Third Army by Michael C. Bilder A Footsoldier for Patton: The Story of a "Red Diamond" Infantryman with the U.S. Third Army by Michael C. Bilder

There is also this resource which may or may not be of value:

https://www.amazon.com/Infantry-Divis...


message 3624: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 16 comments Cool! I've added the book to my to read shelf. I'll have to try and pick up those CDs when I have some spare cash. Thanks for pointing both of those out!


message 3625: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Amanda wrote: "Cool! I've added the book to my to read shelf. I'll have to try and pick up those CDs when I have some spare cash. Thanks for pointing both of those out!"

My pleasure Amanda, I hope they provide some additional information on your Grandfather's unit and his own war.


message 3626: by Joaniepony (new)

Joaniepony Amanda wrote: "Cool! I've added the book to my to read shelf. I'll have to try and pick up those CDs when I have some spare cash. Thanks for pointing both of those out!"

youtube has zillions of subjects on all wars. I have the complete DVD set of "Secrets of War"(65 episodes) narrated by Charlton Heston, easy to listen and watch, without straining the brain with statistics. Much of the series is available on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CuTb...


message 3627: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Sounds like an interesting series Joaniepony, thanks for posting the details.


message 3628: by John (new)

John Somers | 20 comments Hi.

I'm John. I'm from Killarney in the South-West of Ireland. I'm a reader of all kinds of history books primarily military history but anything can take my interest. My main periods are periods are probably WW2 & Classical history. Looking forward to getting and sharing recommendations.


message 3629: by Jonny (new)

Jonny | 2115 comments Hi John, be prepared to have your shelves filed and your bank account put under siege!


message 3630: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1748 comments Hello John. I echo what Jonny said--you may want to look for a second job to pay for all the books you'll be buying!


message 3631: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Hi John and welcome to our group, I hope you find a few things of interest here.


message 3632: by Joaniepony (new)

Joaniepony Amanda wrote: "Hi everyone. I became interested in learning about WWII because my grandfather served during the war. The family understood not to ask him about his experiences, so I started reading about the war ..."

Now I watching a very old film "American Caesar: Douglas MacArthur" YouTube~~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io32S...


message 3633: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments John,

Let me add my welcome to the group

Welcome, Welcome!!!


message 3634: by Dimitri (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments Jonny wrote: "Hi John, be prepared to have your shelves filed and your bank account put under siege!"

He's not kidding....


message 3635: by John (new)

John Day I would be pleased to introduce myself to the group. John Day, thriller writer.
I love spy stories and because I live on a small island that formed part of Hitler's Atlantic Wall, I decided I had to write a story that combines these factors.
In the process, I discovered a lot about Germany and the island and it was most illuminating.
I look forward to hearing others thoughts about what motivated them to write their WW2 stories.


message 3636: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Hi John and a warm welcome to our group. If you like you can post details of your book in our author's thread:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 3637: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Welcome to the Group, John

Best of luck with your book!


message 3638: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3595 comments Welcome to John and John. Great to have both of you join us.


message 3639: by zed (new)

zed  (4triplezed) | 951 comments Welcome.


message 3640: by Dimitri (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments John wrote: "I would be pleased to introduce myself to the group. John Day, thriller writer.
I love spy stories and because I live on a small island that formed part of Hitler's Atlantic Wall, I decided I had to write a story that combines these factors.
In the process, I discovered a lot about Germany and the island and it was most illuminating.
I look forward to hearing others thoughts about what motivated them to write their WW2 stories. ."


Welcome John. Looking forward to that novel & also the non-fiction concerning your island. It's in your GR shelves, right?


message 3641: by John (new)

John Day Dimitri wrote: "John wrote: "I would be pleased to introduce myself to the group. John Day, thriller writer.
I love spy stories and because I live on a small island that formed part of Hitler's Atlantic Wall, I de..."


It is called Espionage - London and it is in my GR shelf. It touches on Peenemunde where the development took place in conjunction with V-1 and then to Alderney where the spy training took place. The conditions on the island were very bad for the Germans at the time. No one ever mentions S-Boats in their war books and it provided an ideal way of transporting the delicate equipment near Dorset, from Alderney. The design features of these boats are quite amazing. There are several still in daily use at this time. You might be amused at the way the 4 spies travelled from the S-Boat to a rocky cove near Lulworth. The mission was intended to be long term, so 3 of the team worked in the underground railway (Tube) to manufacture planes and other equipment. Hiding in plain sight. MI5 were very efficient in catching spies and had gone past doing deals for information, hang them and move on was the trend. As you know, at the end of 1943, Hitler was running out of money. The prospect of destroying major cities was not one he wanted, believing he would win. The cost of rebuilding was daunting. This is why the mission was launched. You will see why when you understand the story. Also, if you know how the V-1 was controlled in flight, it was amazing they could hit London at all.
According to the story, the test mission was a success, in every way. The ending of the story fits with history. It does warn that it is not a guide book of Alderney, or a history of the war, but you might be astonished how well it all fits with the facts.


message 3642: by David (new)

David Rickey | 1 comments Hi my name is David and I’m from Northern Ireland. In my younger days I liked ancient history but as my years have matured and my hair has greyed my interests seems to have changed as well. Now my focus is on WW2 and more towards individual people, organisations and Special Forces. I live not far from the home of Blair Mayne who is a fascinating character and one of my heroes. Currently I’m reading A Brilliant Little Operation by Paddy Ashdown. What I find the most interesting is the nerve, focus and endurance of all these young people who volunteered for hazardous and without doubt suicidle duties.


message 3643: by Jonny (new)

Jonny | 2115 comments Hi David, welcome to the group. Nice choice of book, there's also a supporting Timewatch documentary on the BBC iPlayer which appears on and off, if you can manage to catch it.


message 3644: by Manray9 (last edited Nov 25, 2017 07:47AM) (new)

Manray9 | 4785 comments David wrote: "Hi my name is David and I’m from Northern Ireland. In my younger days I liked ancient history but as my years have matured and my hair has greyed my interests seems to have changed as well. Now my ..."

Welcome, David. I have a copy of Paddy Ashdown's A Brilliant Little Operation The Cockleshell Heroes and the Most Courageous Raid of World War 2 by Paddy Ashdown A Brilliant Little Operation: The Cockleshell Heroes and the Most Courageous Raid of World War 2. Haven't read it yet.

Have you seen the old movie with Trevor Howard and Jose Ferrer?


message 3645: by Jonny (new)

Jonny | 2115 comments There's also Operation Suicide The Remarkable Story of the Cockleshell Raid by Robert Lyman Operation Suicide: The Remarkable Story of the Cockleshell Raid. The movie's petty good too.


message 3646: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Hi David and welcome to the group, I hope you enjoy yourself here and discover a bunch of new books and authors and a few things of interest.


message 3647: by Dimitri (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments Welcome David, you'll find plenty of special books on special forces here. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who crossed from Romans to Germans.


message 3648: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1748 comments Welcome aboard, David. Here's another book on the raid:

Cockleshell Heroes by C.E. Lucas-Phillips Cockleshell Heroes


message 3649: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Hello, was finally talked into joining Goodreads by wife & daughter.
Currently a member of Librarything: http://www.librarything.com/profile/A...
(which I recommend to you).
Trained as a military historian, just retired from 40 years with the Defense Department (and Army).
Regards to all!
Jeff


message 3650: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1748 comments Jeff wrote: "Hello, was finally talked into joining Goodreads by wife & daughter.
Currently a member of Librarything: http://www.librarything.com/profile/A...
(which I recommend to you).
Trained as a milita..."


Welcome to the group, Jeff.


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