THE WORLD WAR TWO GROUP discussion
Introduction to the WW2 Site - Please Say Hi
4triplezed wrote: "Welcome Liz"
Hi, thanks for the welcome. L.
Hi, thanks for the welcome. L.
Liz wrote: "Kimberly wrote: "Hey, friends, can anyone tell me if they know about malaria treatments in the Pacific during WWII? What were the side effects on soldiers and their ability to keep fighting after t..."Atabarine was an artificle quinine. Almost all of the trees that provided the bark for quinine were grown in Indonisia or the PI, which obviously became unavailable with the Japanese success in '41/2
One of the side affects was turning the skin a kind yellowish-orange.
Jaundice was a common side effect along with stomach cramps and diarrhea. With 50 different strains of malaria, and three being potentially fata (Plasmodium Vivax, Plasmodium Ovalae, and Plasmodium Falciparum), a one fits all treatment does not work, same for yellow fever.
Hi. Interesting topic. I wondered what the difference was between Atabine and Quinine. I believe that malaria can also affect the liver and cause jaundice, as my father said he was hospitalized in England for Malaria and had severe jaundice. Interesting that he took BOTH the same day- Atabine and Quinine. I thought it was one or the other? This may not be helpful, but thought members would find this interesting, here is an excerpt from my father's WWll diary about this topic. He was in Europe. January 27, 1945
Eupen, Germany-Belgium
I started to get malarial chills about 4 pm. I hugged the stove. Murray thought I
was kidding but then said my eyes were bloodshot. I went back to my room and
went to bed. I took two Atabrine tablets. I became violently ill soon after. Harry
brought me juice later. I then started to sweat and the water was streaming down
my legs, arms, and face. I threw up. Nubby Collins (nicknamed Nubby as he is
missing a couple of fingers), one of the medics, took my temperature. It was 101.
Harry, Tony, and Nix dropped in.
January 28, 1945
Eupen, Germany-Belgium
It was a pretty restless sticky night and into the early morning hours. The Malarial
sweat has gone. I got a couple hours sleep, until 6 am. At least now I feel a little bit
comfortable. I got up at 7 am and emptied my helmet out, as this is what I used to
throw up in. I went back to bed. Harry brought me some tea and toast about 10:30
am.
It is Sunday, I had forgotten. Sergeant Nix dropped in to see how I was. Nubby
Collins the medic dropped in. Windy said, "Hello." I am feeling okay but not
normal and I am weak. I had taken one Atabrine and one Quinine tablet with a
little grapefruit juice. Harry brought me some coffee and toast for dinner. He and
Jack went to services (Jewish service). Skoczylas had been in earlier and borrowed
my pistol. He had to have sidearm, and a pistol is easier to carry.
I got up and dressed about 1:15 pm, but I am pretty weak, although I feel fairly
good. I went back to bed, as I only feel fair. Different people dropped in and I went
to sleep.
Harry brought me supper; it was chicken, potato, cocoa, and chocolate cake. I ate a
little of it. I lay down and rested all evening, as I didn't feel any too well. I had
another attack but am doped up enough to shake most of it off. I took two Atabrine
and one Quinine before 11 pm. I got up once later on.
Mary,
Thanks for sharing this. It's so descriptive. Liz
Thanks for sharing this. It's so descriptive. Liz
I think it is so interesting to look at an excerpts in any book, that describes a topic being discussed.
Hi everyone!I want to thank you guys for the warm welcome! I'm really looking forward to following & participating in future discussions and discovering many new perspectives on things.
I live in Finland and am a sophomore in high school.
I discovered my love for history in the 8th grade and have been living and breathing it ever since. Currently studying and working towards my dream of eventually becoming a history teacher myself.
I'm currently in the process of researching Germany's side of the war, previously focusing more on the Eastern Front (The historian's thirst for knowledge cannot be easily quenched!).
I look forward to talking more with everyone really soon and wish you all a great summer filled with lots of reading!
- Serafima
Hi Serafima and welcome to the group. We just finished a theme read on the Eastern Front plus we have this page on that subject:https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Serafima wrote: "Hi everyone!I want to thank you guys for the warm welcome! I'm really looking forward to following & participating in future discussions and discovering many new perspectives on things.
I live i..."
Welcome to the group, Serafima! Never hesitate to ask for recommendations on any topic and rest assured there is at least one person in the group who can help you out!
Serafima,Let me add my welcome to the group
Welcome, Welcome!
Good luck on becoming a teacher - it is a great calling.
Hi all, nice to find a group specifically dedicated to WWII. I'm from Melbourne, Australia and read mostly Third Reich era memoirs, with a particular interest in post-war reflection. I've got a huge backlog awaiting attention but with so much rubbish written on the period it's always interesting to hear the thoughts of others.
Al, Let me be the first to welcome you here.
Our fearless leader, AR, also hails from your neck of the woods.
As you look through the various threads, I'm sure you'll find something that interests you :)
Be prepared to have your TBR list grow exponentially :)
Hi Al and welcome to the group, if you thought you had a book backlog issue before joining this group well then get prepared for more pain :)By the way have you seen this book considering your interest in WW2 German memoirs:
In Deadly Combat: A German Soldier's Memoir of the Eastern Front by Gottlob Herbert Bidermann
Cheers for the welcome fellas. Aussie Rick, can't remember why, but In Deadly Combat has always been pushed down the list. At the moment I'm reading "Being a Medical Officer in World War 2: The War Diary of Dr. Wilhelm Mauss'. Thought that it might be a nice accompaniment to 'To the Gates of Moscow with the 3rd Panzer Division'.
Al wrote: "Cheers for the welcome fellas. Aussie Rick, can't remember why, but In Deadly Combat has always been pushed down the list. At the moment I'm reading "Being a Medical Officer in World War 2: The War..."Welcome, Al. Please pitch right in!
Ha! I said goodbye to them a long time ago. It's just made me more discerning, and thankfully price and availability is much better than it was 20 years ago when you'd have this perpetual pile of books at the book shop that you were trying to chip away at the 1000s owing.
Hi Folks,So glad I found this group, I have read a lot of books on WW11 & still reading, a lot of books on the Holocaust. So, so sad what the Jewish people had to go through Great Group
Vivian wrote: "Hi Folks,So glad I found this group, I have read a lot of books on WW11 & still reading, a lot of books on the Holocaust. So, so sad what the Jewish people had to go through Great Group"
Welcome, Vivian.
Hi Vivian and welcome to the group. We have a thread dedicated to books on the Holocaust in case you wanted to check it out;https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Vivian wrote: "Hi Folks,So glad I found this group, I have read a lot of books on WW11 & still reading, a lot of books on the Holocaust. So, so sad what the Jewish people had to go through Great Group"
Welcome Vivian, prepare to never have a bookless nightstand again. The Holocaust is catered to with care.
Al wrote: "Hi all, nice to find a group specifically dedicated to WWII. I'm from Melbourne, Australia and read mostly Third Reich era memoirs, with a particular interest in post-war reflection. I've got a hug..."Mary wrote: "Hi. Interesting topic. I wondered what the difference was between Atabine and Quinine. I believe that malaria can also affect the liver and cause jaundice, as my father said he was hospitalized in ..."
Colin wrote: "Quinine was the only treatment/preventative until late in the war, when chloraquin and later primaquin were introduced. Later we had fancidar, etc. I know, I had malaria."
Thanks, Liz, Colin and Mary for such great information. I particularly enjoyed the first person account from the diary, that's as good as research gets. Thanks for the contributions!!
Al wrote: "Cheers for the welcome fellas. Aussie Rick, can't remember why, but In Deadly Combat has always been pushed down the list. At the moment I'm reading "Being a Medical Officer in World War 2: The War..."Going to order Being a medical Dr. in WW2, sounds so interesting
Mike wrote: "Welcome Ian, Liz, Serafima, Al and Vivian. Great to have you all here."
Thanks, Mike.
Thanks, Mike.
You may like my book series, The German Aces Speak, with high profile German aces, some of whom became NATO generals after the war, and had close contact with Hitler, Goering and many others. Their perspectives on the war and aftermath are revealing.
Kimberly wrote: "Al wrote: "Hi all, nice to find a group specifically dedicated to WWII. I'm from Melbourne, Australia and read mostly Third Reich era memoirs, with a particular interest in post-war reflection. I'v..."
Kimberly wrote: "Al wrote: "Hi all, nice to find a group specifically dedicated to WWII. I'm from Melbourne, Australia and read mostly Third Reich era memoirs, with a particular interest in post-war reflection. I'v..."
My pleasure.
Kimberly wrote: "Al wrote: "Hi all, nice to find a group specifically dedicated to WWII. I'm from Melbourne, Australia and read mostly Third Reich era memoirs, with a particular interest in post-war reflection. I'v..."
My pleasure.
Colin wrote: "You may like my book series, The German Aces Speak, with high profile German aces, some of whom became NATO generals after the war, and had close contact with Hitler, Goering and many others. Their..."Sounds interesting Colin. Particularly those aspects that pertain to post-war perspectives. Just ordered the first volume. Is there a limited availability on the second volume?
Colin wrote: "As far as availability I am not sure, but Amazon keeps good inventory numbers on the website."Colin, any news on when we can expect a third volume?
Sadly, I am now working on my Vol. I of "American Air Heroes: The ETO in WW II". Then there will be a volume on the Pacific pilots, vol. I also. Staggering to shift interest by readers. later my German tankers, SS officers and U-Boat men.
Colin wrote: "Sadly, I am now working on my Vol. I of "American Air Heroes: The ETO in WW II". Then there will be a volume on the Pacific pilots, vol. I also. Staggering to shift interest by readers. later my Ge..."Wow, sounds like you're quite busy! Looking forward to these new books!
Hello group! Published a WW2 historic novel earlier this year titled Assignment Bletchley: A WW2 Story of Navy Intelligence, Spies and Intrigue
A U.S. Navy officer is assigned communications intelligence duty at Bletchley Park. Getting great reviews Amazon, Goodreads.
Welcome to the group Peter and best of luck on your book. If you wish to post any further details on your book you can so in the author's page:https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Hi all, I am Katrina Shawver, and my book, “Henry - A Polish Swimmer's True Story of Friendship from Auschwitz to America” will be released November 1, 2017 through Koehler Books.
Katrina Shawver
Brief description:
Couched in the interview style of Tuesdays with Morrie, Henry relates in his own voice a life as a champion swimmer, interrupted by three years imprisoned in Auschwitz and Buchenwald as a Polish political prisoner. Henry reminds us that no single class of people was safe from Hitler's reach or imprisonment, and no country suffered more under Hitler and Stalin than Poland.
I’m a big World War II and history buff, due to the amount of research I needed to do for my book. The official genre is: Biography: Historical/WWII and it includes more than 70 original photos and rare German documents.
Please reach out to me to connect. I’d love to know your interests. There is always something new that I can learn.
www.katrinashawver.com
Henry: A Polish Swimmer's True Story of Friendship from Auschwitz to America
Welcome to the group, Katrina. This group will recommend more books than you will ever be able to read, but that is a very good thing.Your book sounds interesting - many of us may have an interest in checking it out.
You may also want to add details about your book on the Author's Page thread at this link: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
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Hi, Kimberly,
From my research on my book on the war in the Pacific, they used something called Atabrine that was only thing used to treat malaria. It turned the skin slightly yellow. Soldiers in malarial areas had an infection rate of 85-95 percent. Atabrine was only partly effective, and really bad malaria cases were evacuated to the states. Hope this helps. Liz