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Mar 03, 2010 07:26AM

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i think if i could change the ending it would have been the ending. i would change mr. morris's death to Dr. Sewards death. i also would have broughten van helsing into the story a little later in stead of him helping lucy, he would have been the one to come into town when lucy had already turned.

i think the story would have completly change. i believe that the rest of the characters wouldnt know what to do when the girls (lucy and mina) turned and would have suffered from lack of information.

I think he was too wrapped up in trying to find Dracula to notice the slight difference in his wife. He was not present while Lucy was going through the same fate earlier in the book, so he would not recognize the signs as the others might have. However, the others were not able to notice because on page 277, they separated their actions from her. Becuase of this, they were no longer working in close quarters with Mina and therefore might not have noticed the symptoms that they had seen once before.

Earl: I think that everyone, including Jonathan, focused all of their energy and concentration on getting Dracula to evacuate the city. Therefor, Jonathan Harker naively didn't realize Mina's eventual transformation.

i would have left when he opened the doors on page 61-62 no matter what the night was offering me.i also would have confronted him about the letters i had to write even if it seemed disrespectful

I would have change the ending where Dracula put up more of a fight, that was my only problem.

Earl: There wouldv'e been less superstition throughout the story. I believe that without his part the story wouldv'e been dry and less intresting than it already was.

He was trapped! On page 31, he describes that castle as being on a "terrifically high cliff". If he were to jump, he would die! He also went around and discovered that all of the doors were locked, so he could not get out. Even if he did get out, the wolves he encounted on page 13 (which we later find out to be controlled by Dracula), would have killed him. As creepy as Dracula was to him, there was no way he could leave.

i think jonathan was in denial because he loves is wife so much. he didn't even want to think his wife could change into something so evil.

The story needed Mr.Renfield for them to find out that Mina was turning.

i would change the ending. i would of had a big finishing fight. i would of changed dracula being the carriage driver in the begining. it could of been somebody saying don't go there. pleeding him don't go there. then he still goes to dracula's castle.

he couldn't leave beacuse he was unfamiliar with the that he had been living in and he didn't have the key to the humongous door.plus he lves in a castle i dought he is gonna be able to jump out of the window

Are you kidding? Their wouldn't be a story, everyone would be dead or be a vampire! He is the only one who knows anyhting bout them in the story.

I would make the story more modern. The 1800s is not a very good time period for stuff like this. If anyone has seen the movie Van Helsing, you know what I mean. I mean come on, in the movie the guy has a machine gun, two really cool pistols, and a machine cross-bow. How cool is that?

i would have lef..."
matias:i wouldn't of left when he opened the door mostly beacuse there was probably a undred wolfs out side waiting for lunch to come through the door,and it night wich mean sleep so i wouuld wait the next day, that what he did and his still alive

Linden I was mad that Jonathan didn't see the obvious signs that he was a vampire. However in England where he is from, people don't know about vampires yet unlike Transylvania.When Jonathan first met Dracula he should have left because he was creepy, remember when he said "Enter at your own freewill.?" I would have left then, but it's business.


Tavia, everyone was so focused on catching Dracula that they weren't paying attention to her. I feel they saw the signs, but just like poor Lucy they brushed it off as stress and being sick.
Linden Wrote "Through out the beginning chapters on page 30 Jonathan Harker writes about all these weird things happening and yet he was so oblivious did you get mad at his stupidity because i know i did?
Leana: I did get mad at his stupidity because he saw them glaring at him and everything and then on page 7 paragraph 2- when they were talking he understood some of the words and knew it was something about him and wanting to know about Count DRacula. It angered me so much that he couldn't put two and two together.
Leana: I did get mad at his stupidity because he saw them glaring at him and everything and then on page 7 paragraph 2- when they were talking he understood some of the words and knew it was something about him and wanting to know about Count DRacula. It angered me so much that he couldn't put two and two together.
Earl wrote: "Near the beginning of the novel, on page 39, right after Jonathan Harker saw Dracula scale down the side of the castle, I wouldv'e left. What do you think, forum?"
leana: I wouldn't of left because just like Johnathan Harker, I would of not noticed anything or even thought of anything. We only know about Dracula because ths story has been told for centuries and back then he had no clue so he had no reason to run away.
leana: I wouldn't of left because just like Johnathan Harker, I would of not noticed anything or even thought of anything. We only know about Dracula because ths story has been told for centuries and back then he had no clue so he had no reason to run away.
What is the reason for the Stoker to put Reinfield in the book? Would the novel change if he wasn't incuded in the book?

Devonte hippo wrote:On page 39 when Jonathan saw Dracula scale down the wall he was still piecing together all the facts like on page 30 when he cut himself and the count didn't show up in the mirror he didn't know that vampires didn't have reflections jonathan didn't find that he was imprisoned until page 31 and then he confirmed his suspicion on page 34 and even then how would you get out of a vampires castal with no knowledge of vampires. this story is set way back when before t.v and instant; travel vampires wren't even myths they were creatures that people dare not think about or people didn't know about at all the only reason the Transylvanias knew about Dracula is becuse vampires and what to do to ward them off was a part od thei culture so i doubt if you were in Jonathan shoes you would be able to escape.
Justin wrote: "evaluate: how do you think the story would have changed if Dr. Van Helsing wasn't in the story?"
Leana: If Van Helsinng wasn't in the story there would be a really good chance that no one would know how to stop Dracula and he would have so much power that there would be a whole town of Vampires. lol.
Leana: If Van Helsinng wasn't in the story there would be a really good chance that no one would know how to stop Dracula and he would have so much power that there would be a whole town of Vampires. lol.

Instead of just writing a "regular" novel, why did Stoker write out the whole novel with letters and diary entries from Dr.Seward, Johnathan, Van Helsing, etc.? Why dosn't Reinfield have a diary entry in the story?

"We learn from failure, not from success!" -- Bram Stoker
Devonte wrote: "devonte hippo wrote: on page 319-322 when mina is forced to drink the counts blood what would you do in her place?"
Leana: If I was forced to drink the blood of count Dracula... Oh My GoD! I would have tried to trick him and let him think I drunk the blood when i really didn't but that's just me. ;)
Leana: If I was forced to drink the blood of count Dracula... Oh My GoD! I would have tried to trick him and let him think I drunk the blood when i really didn't but that's just me. ;)

devonte hippo wrote: Jonathan isn't stupid or oblivious he is autually kinda smart he gave the Count the benifit of doubt because that is the the type of chracter he is in the Beginning of the book anway ( he changes through out) then as his Suspicion rose he kept his wits about him for a man who dosen't know anything about vamps he is pretty smart and on top of that he found a Schedule he could exploer the castel he also was able to send out a letter to his wife not a phony like the count wanted him to send but a real letter in short hand now tell me in this time period with the knowledge that Jonathan had at the time tell me how would you escape and get away or get info to the outside world with no technology please tell me i would love to know???

i..."i wouldn't of left when he opened the door mostly beacuse there was probably a undred wolfs out side waiting for lunch to come through the door,and it night wich mean sleep so i wouuld wait the next day, that what he did and his still alive
Valentine wrote: I would have rather taken a chance running out the door and away from the wolves because you die eventually.

Valentine wrote: Well you know that he was crazy so he was restrained, so maybe he wasn't allowed to have certain things.

This wasn't the original version of the book. If you go to books.google.com and search Dracula, you will find a copy of the original. It is a bit longer and the language is much more complicated. Honestly, I am glad we read this one. I would consider going back and reading the other one, but when reading parts of it, I realized that the version we read was literally transposed form the original into easier writing sentence by sentence. There is really nothing different other than the vocabulary.

he probably wrote that story in that form so that people could have the feeling as if your going through all that as if your the one seeing and doing all of those things

he couldn't leav..."
That's true Matias but he it also says later that he scaled down the wall into draculas room and with that he should have just gone all the way down and left at least that's what i would have done i mean so what if i don't know the land this guy is crazy.

I'd agree with that but he didn't actually kidnap Jonathen he trapped him by saying he need a lawyer for businuss maters he need to take care of in england which he did but who knew that it would end up having all that happen.

It would have changed TREMENDOUSLY because if Reinfield wasn't in the book then Dracula would have never been able to enter the house that they were staying at and wouldn't have been able to suck Mina's blood. Because Dr. Van Helsing said that Vampires must be invited in to a place the first time they enter. Ant not to mention how much of a help he was in talking about dracula.

That's true Matias but he it also says later that he scaled down the wall into draculas room and with that he should have just gone all the way down and left at..."
Well then again, it could have been one of those castles with one window at the top with a sheer drop at the bottom.


Well then we'd lose that whole sort of purpose to read from cover to cover feeling to find out how it ends and makes it a little more enjoyable to read it.

Regina, what do you think was catchy about the book, and why is it easy?

I also agree If I saw a potential Busniess Partner Craw down the Side of a 50 foot castle I would Try to Leave pronto.

I felt it was an fairly easy book and also a good read. But i think it was written on a 8th grade level

Did Anybody Feel that the Ending was a bit bland. I would have Ended the story in an epic battle of some sort. Dont you agree Forum?

I think the title Dracula wors pretty well for the story. Mostly because I couldn't think of any thing else that would fit the stories setting and mood. I personally don't think that their are any other possible titles. Dracula just seems to be the best title. Especially when almost every one knows who, and what he is.

I think that Jonathan didn't expect Dracula to strike someone so close to him. While he was busy looking for Dracula, Dracula was sneeking around behind him snacking on his wife. No one would have even noticed if Reinfied, I think thats how you spell it, hadn't said that Dracule smelled like Mrs. Harker.