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Tell me again...where are you in Illinois?

[Chrissie]

Christine and Martha, you guys are so lucky! I like his design, but I don't think I'd want to live with him...... Mamah couldn't even put flower pots on the window sills b/c they destroyed the simplicity of the lines. I mean you have to live a bit too. Christine that is cool that you got to saty in the hotel's Frank Lloyd Wright Room. What a memory!

The styles of his different houses can vary tremedously. I am not so sure I would like having colored glass windows. You get less light. His idea was that you ididn't want to see the disturbing surroundings, but it did let in the light. I STILL would prefer clear glass windows, you do get more light. I think Taliesin is SO very pretty. The magazine Architectural Digest had, years ago, a number with lots of photos of the house.

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I have never visited any of Wright's homes, but I have been in the only skyscraper he ever designed. It is part hotel, part art museum, and has a really cool bar on the top level. The pictures here don't do justice to actually seeing inside: all angles, and odd corners.

http://pricetower.org/about-ptac/

[Kristi]

Kristi wrote: "I'm currently reading The Children's Book and listening to The Postman Always Rings Twice."

WOW! It's been a while since I posted. Let's see:
I set aside TBC, I finished The Postman Always Rings Twice on audio. Enjoyed it!

I've read The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks (astonishing true story), and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (very interesting read).

I imported The Pillars of the Earth onto my iPod, and I started reading Room.

I haven't started listening to Pillars yet, that's more of a weekday/work thing. But I'm about 1/2 way through "Room", and it's...interesting to say the least. A bit creepy too.

[Chrissie]

Thanks Jeanette, Fun to look around inside. Are you speaking of the Copper Bar? that is the only bar I could find at the site.

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Chrissie wrote: "Thanks Jeanette, Fun to look around inside. Are you speaking of the Copper Bar? that is the only bar I could find at the site."

Yes, it's on the top two floors. The rooms are rather small at the top. It's a shame I can't find any good images. It's pretty cool to see that he did a large-scale design like this.

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Kristi -- my husband just read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? and he said he couldn't enjoy Blade Runner, because the book was so much better.

[Kristi]

I honestly don't remember the movie. I know I saw it, but...so long ago. I can see why he thought it though. The book was really interesting.

[Chrissie]

Jeanette, again thank you!

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Chrissie wrote: "Jeanette, again thank you!"

Were you aware of the Price Tower, Chrissie? It is located in the town where my sister lives, otherwise I never knew that Wright had done such a design.

[Chrissie]

No, I did not know about it at all. That is why I so appreciated being told!!!

[[deleted user]]

Chrissie wrote: "No, I did not know about it at all. That is why I so appreciated being told!!!"

Well, then, you are especially welcome. :)

[Darkpool]

Well I've gone and overdone it at the library. I'm currently reading 4 books, with about another 4 suddenly on their way due to my hitting the top of the request list unexpectedly. Oh, and requesting books late at night when my brain wasn't working properly. So yay for being on holiday! Also our lovely library has an extended loan period over Xmas/January, which is our summer holiday, so yay for that, too.

Anyhow, current reads are: Genesis: The Story Of Apollo 8, feeding my space program fetish, Dark and Stormy Knights (an anthology), in which I'm really only interested in one story, but have decided to read a couple more. Most of them aren't piquing my interest tho. Also reading Witch Fire, which is wonderfully trashy, and on the car's CD player I have Torment, which has got to be one of the most appropriately named books I've ever read. :-/ and yet I keep listening...

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Happy Warm Christmas, Darkpool! What a great policy to have extended loan period. We get two 3-week renewals, unless someone else has the book on hold. Have fun reading and listening!

[Maria]

Chrissie wrote: "Maria, I have tons of books that take place in Italy. Here is the link to that my Italy shelf:

http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...

I higly recommend [book:..."

Hi Chrissie - I read http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20.... I enjoyed it. A story within a story.

[Maria]

Gundula wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "Maria, I have tons of books that take place in Italy. Here is the link to that my Italy shelf:

http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...

I higly rec..."

"I had a Mediterranean shaped retina" ... that is HYSTERICAL! I never knew retinas could be ethnic! Maybe he thought you were shooting him the evil eye. LOL

[Maria]

Chrissie wrote: "Maria, I have tons of books that take place in Italy. Here is the link to that my Italy shelf:

http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...

I higly recommend [book:..."

... and, as to the "what am I?" question ... isn't it fun being able to pull from so many things? Especially in the food category! And, at the core, I am American...... The Melting Pot.

[Maria]

Christine wrote: "Maria wrote: "Maria wrote: "I am reading Firefly Lane which is about the friendship of Tully and Kate from childhood through adulthood. I'm waiting for the "big one" to drop .... th..."

Do you have any idea how to pronouce "Tully"? Is it like "gully" or like "truly"? It was driving me crazy while I read the book. I don't like when I don't know how to pronounce (in my head) a main character's name.

[Kristi]

Darkpool wrote: "Well I've gone and overdone it at the library. I'm currently reading 4 books, with about another 4 suddenly on their way due to my hitting the top of the request list unexpectedly. Oh, and requesti..."

That's a lot of reading! Enjoy it thoroughly!

[Kristi]

Jeannette wrote: "Happy Warm Christmas, Darkpool! What a great policy to have extended loan period. We get two 3-week renewals, unless someone else has the book on hold. Have fun reading and listening!"

Mine is exactly the same.

[Manybooks]

Maria wrote: "Gundula wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "Maria, I have tons of books that take place in Italy. Here is the link to that my Italy shelf:

http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/......"

I've never heard of it since, so I don't know how true this actually is. I just thought it was interesting and if true, can certainly explain some things about my personality. But, eye shapes can be somewhat ethnic, so why not retinas?

[Chrissie]

Maria, finally someone else who has read That Summer in Sicily: A Love Story. Absolutely delightful. And yup, being a melting pot is the only answer. The best is if you can pick and choose which bits you want to throw in to that pot!

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Thanks for reminding me about Marlena de Blasi - I have read a few of her books, my favourite being A Thousand Days in Venice. She writes a terrific memoir!

[Maria]

Chrissie wrote: "Maria, finally someone else who has read That Summer in Sicily: A Love Story. Absolutely delightful. And yup, being a melting pot is the only answer. The best is if you can pick and ..."

Chrissie and Shelley -- I have not read any other books by de Blasi. An aunt bought me "Summer" because my mother's family is from Sicily. Actually, I was the first person to visit Sicily since my great-grandparents left in the early 1900s. I only wish my trip there was as wonderous as de Blasi's was!

[Kathy]

I started The Sherlockian last night, and I think I'm really going to like it.

[[deleted user]]

Question for those who have read Outlander...does the thwarted rape after thwarted rape stuff continue on, or is this just a beginning-of-the-book thing?

[[deleted user]]

Kathy wrote: "I started The Sherlockian last night, and I think I'm really going to like it."

I just got that one!

[Kathy]

Christine wrote: "Question for those who have read Outlander...does the thwarted rape after thwarted rape stuff continue on, or is this just a beginning-of-the-book thing?"

Do you mean does it continue in the book or the series? Also, are you referring to Claire and Black Jack? As I recall, the first book, which is the one you're on, should be finished with raping or attempted raping scenes fairly early on.

[Kathy]

Christine wrote: "Kathy wrote: "I started The Sherlockian last night, and I think I'm really going to like it."

I just got that one!"

Oh, good. I hope you read it soon. I'm going to try to get in some reading time tonight and tomorrow. It promises to be a good one.

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Yes, Black Jack. That whole thing gives me the heebie jeebies. But okay, I am comforted to know that it's temporary.

[Kathy]

Christine wrote: "Yes, Black Jack. That whole thing gives me the heebie jeebies. But okay, I am comforted to know that it's temporary."

He does remain a problem for Claire and Jamie. There is some really bad stuff, but it comes up in another book, I think. I'll check on that.

[[deleted user]]

The Sherlockian looks excellent!

[[deleted user]]

How bad of bad stuff? I am such a wuss.

[[deleted user]]

Christine wrote: "How bad of bad stuff? I am such a wuss."

Hey! I am not going to help you out from under the bed again. One rape scene is one too many for me. :(

[[deleted user]]

You know you'll break down and help me. That's what friends are for....dragging each other from the underbellies of furniture when book scenes get the best of them, right?

[[deleted user]]

Tough love tonight, for you young lady! I just don't do the psycho killer stuff.

I just started Under Fishbone Clouds, but I am still at the beginning.

[[deleted user]]

Ohoh!! That was my very favorite this year! Yay!

And Outlander isn't psycho killer. It's historical fiction with possibly too much sexual violence for my tender reading.

[[deleted user]]

And they made this into a graphic novel?

[Petra]

I saw a preview of the graphic novel of Outlander. It didn't look very good, I thought. I thought it made the story look like a cheap, bodice-ripper romance.

[Kathy]

I was very disapointed in the Outlander graphic novel.

[Chrissie]

Shelley and Maria, anothe book by de Blasi that is definitely worth reading is Amandine, although I did not think it was as good as That Summer in Sicily: A Love Story. I still haven't read A Thousand Days in Venice. I really should, since I adore memoirs!

[Chrissie]

Jeanette, I have Under Fishbone Clouds on my highest priority shelf. I loved the prose I check read. It sounds intriguing that the author intertwines myth and history and a love story too! Please let us know what you think as you read it.

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Chrissie wrote: "Jeanette, I have Under Fishbone Clouds on my highest priority shelf. I loved the prose I check read. It sounds intriguing that the author intertwines myth and history and a love stor..."

Such a wonderful book! I really hope you love it as much as I did, Jeannette.

[Manybooks]

Christine wrote: "Ohoh!! That was my very favorite this year! Yay!

And Outlander isn't psycho killer. It's historical fiction with possibly too much sexual violence for my tender reading."

With the "Outlander" series, there certainly is quite a bit of the rough stuff, and quite a bit of sexuality. I don't consider it great literature, but one thing that is important to realise is that Diana Gabaldon shows some of the horrors that do occur during wartime, and rape (unfortunately) was and often still is a consequence of war. I found some of the scenes disgusting, offensive and brutal, but I think that the novels gave me a better understanding what war and the consequences of war were, and not to glamorise the past as the "good old days."

[Manybooks]

Kathy wrote: "Christine wrote: "Question for those who have read Outlander...does the thwarted rape after thwarted rape stuff continue on, or is this just a beginning-of-the-book thing?"

Do you mea..."

Well, what I found most disturbing was Black Jack and Jamie (when Jamie is imprisoned), yeah, that whole situation is creepy, but also shows (as I mentioned in my previous post) one of the unfortunate realities of war and that it often brings out the worst in people.

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I'm not to whatever you are talking about yet, Gundula, but a lot of the scenes are out of my comfort zone. I realize how much in the minority I am with what makes me uncomfortable though.

[Manybooks]

Christine wrote: "I'm not to whatever you are talking about yet, Gundula, but a lot of the scenes are out of my comfort zone. I realize how much in the minority I am with what makes me uncomfortable though."

Well, I cannot say that I was completely comfortable with those scenes myself, but I found that on the whole, I really liked the series (especially the first three books, the later ones tend to drag on a bit). And, I don't think that for a moment Gabaldon in any way glorifies violence, although some of the sexual scenes between Claire and Jamie made me blush a bit (too much detail for me). I think in many ways the "Outlander" series is quite realistic (or, as realistic as possible, if one does not think about the fact that it is a time travel novel), but I can certainly see how it or parts of it could be out of someone's comfort zone. For me personally, I can handle some scenes, some chapters etc. that are out of my comfort zone, but if the whole book is out of my comfort zone, it becomes more of a problem (or, if the book is written in a tedious way, boring or full of grammar and stylistic mistakes, that drives me batty).

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Chrissie wrote: "Jeanette, I have Under Fishbone Clouds on my highest priority shelf. I loved the prose I check read. It sounds intriguing that the author intertwines myth and history and a love stor..."

I like the author's style, that's for certain. I like the kind of story-within-a-story books, too.

[Kathy]

Gundula wrote: "Kathy wrote: "Christine wrote: "Question for those who have read Outlander...does the thwarted rape after thwarted rape stuff continue on, or is this just a beginning-of-the-book thing..."

Gundula, that's the really bad stuff to which I was referring in my reply to Christine. It was tough to read, and I'm not sure Christine is going to want to read through it. I've read all of the Outlander books, but I wasn't sure in which one the prison business takes place. Can you remember? I can look it up, but due to laziness I'll ask you first. LOL!

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Uh oh....someone told me that Jamie goes to prison near the end of this book...is that going to be it? Do I need cupcakes on hand?