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Yes, or stressing his insanity and warped thinking. I love Corky's character, actually. He's one of Koontz' funniest villains.
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I'm hoping that someone put a big knife through Corky's neck and let him bleed to death.What actor was Koontz thinking of when he wrote THE FACE? I have one actor in mind by the description of a movie that Koontz had mention. I could be wrong
Mischelle wrote: "...What actor was Koontz thinking of when he wrote THE FACE?..."I don't think he was thinking of any one actor, but rather a composite of many to yield a stereotypical prototype.
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:-) Which actor do you have in mind?
I was thinking at first of Tom Cruise and then of Viggo Mortensen. I remember Cruise being in a fantacy movie with unicorns in it. Viggo was in Lord of the Rings and has a son. Viggo is not as big as Tom Cruise. The Face could also be George Clooney. He was doing all those stupid political movies in 2003. He was dating alot them.
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I don't think he was thinking of any one actor, but rather a composite of many to yield a stereotypical prototype."
I agree with Jason now that I'm enjoying the story. I had Tom Cruise in mind but Koontz mentions Cruise along with several others. (I noticed Tom Cruise mentioned in chapter 2)
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Channing Manheim, known as The Face is the highest..."
Maciek, I really enjoyed your commentary. Everyone else, you should read Maciek's comment in post #1 Highly Recommended :-) btw, what does "la Puta" mean in Spanish?
Dustin Crazy wrote: "...btw, what does "la Puta" mean in Spanish?":-D I'm sure you can figure it out yourself online.
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:-D I'm sure you can figure it out yourself online."
Fine. I will. It must be a very bad word if you won't share your knowledge. I'll go find out right now.
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Puta, puto
Puta literally means whore, and can be extended to any woman who is seen as being sexually loose. This word is common to all other Romance languages (it is puta also in Portuguese and Catalan, pute/putain in French, puttana in Italian, and so on) and almost certainly comes from Vulgar Latin putta (from puttus, alteration of putus "boy"), although the Royal Spanish Academy lists its origins as "uncertain" (unlike other dictionaries which state putta as its origin, like the María Moliner).
The word is used in quite a few common expressions. Hijo de puta (literally: "son of a whore") is the Spanish equivalent of "son of a bitch" in English. The use of puta as "bitch" has led to its use as slang for the word "bitch" in the United States by people of immigrant backgrounds.
In Honduras, Philippines, and El Salvador, the word puta is a very common part of everyday speech, and it is not such a strong word as it is in the rest of Central America.
While hijo de puta ("son of a whore") is a common insult in Latin American countries (and is even dismissed as a not very offensive one), saying tu madre es una puta ("your mother is a whore") while just a slight rewording, is much more offensive to the average Latin American, since it is perceived more as a personal insult to one's mother than to one's self. In Latin American countries such as Colombia, hijo de puta may often be replaced by the single contracted words hijueputa or jueputa. In Andalusia, the contraction hijoputa is commonplace.
Hayao Miyazaki's Japanese film 天空の城ラピュタ (Laputa: Castle in the Sky) was marketed outside Japan with the title "Castle in the Sky" because la puta means "the whore" in Spanish; this expression is used for denoting surprise or just insulting someone. The Japanese name of the film was a reference to Jonathan Swift's book Gulliver's Travels, in which Laputa is the name of a flying island. In the Spanish dubbing of this movie, the flying island was referred as Lapuntu as a euphemism.
The expression hijo de puta is often transformed into hijo de la gran puta (literally: "son of the great bitch") or simply hijo de la gran... (literally: "son of the great...") to emphasize the insult. Another possible deviation is hijo de mil putas (literally: "son of a thousand bitches"). Hijo de puta is also used in the Philippines as iho de puta with its variants, de puta, anak ng puta, putang ina mo and putang ina.
Also, when referring to a specific person rather than arbitrarily blurting hijo de puta, one may proclaim hijo de su puta madre in order to specify a certain person with whom he or she is displeased.
In Spain, puta (as well as its masculine form puto) is very frequently used as an adjective. It is then sometimes little more than an expletive devoid of meaning: vamos a la puta calle, lit.: "we are going to the whore street". To be somebody or something de puta madre (lit.: "from a whore mother") means to be excellent, to be the best possible[citation needed]: Lo pasamos de puta madre "We had a bloody brilliant time". It can be also ironic: De puta madre, ¿ahora qué hacemos? "Bloody brilliant. What are we supposed to do now?"
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Dustin Crazy wrote: "la puta is not that bad at all, Jason. I was thinking more along the lines of puneta or panocha - I'll let you find out for yourself what those ones mean ;-)"No, not that bad, but bad enough for someone's name. :-P
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"FED, FRIGHTENED, AND FRUSTRATED, FRIC WENT directly from the wine cellar to the library, proceeding by an indirect route least likely to result in an encounter with a member of the house staff."
Directly by an indirect route - that's great. I think Dean should have added more F's to that first line too - don't you? can you think of any more F-words to add? I think he should have called the character "Frickin' Fric"
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Dustin Crazy wrote: "Ghost Dad is a fun title too."I'ts also the title of a 1990 drama-comedy staring Bill Cosby. ;-)
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-The Face, chapter 33
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"Every ornament on the tree was an angel or featured an angel in its design. Baby angels, child angels, adult angels, blond angels with blue eyes, African-American angels, Asian angels, noble-looking American-Indian angels with feathered headdresses as well as halos. Angels smiling, angels laughing, angels using their halos as Hula-Hoops, angels flying, dancing, caroling, praying, and skipping rope. Cute dogs with angel wings. Angel cats, angel toads, an angel pig.
Fric resisted the urge to puke."
-The Face, Chapter 33
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I'ts also the title of a 1990 drama-comedy staring Bill Cosby. ;-)"
I swear I saw that, now that you mention it. Hmmm.
Dustin Crazy wrote: "I swear I saw that, now that you mention it. Hmmm."I saw it in the theater when I was 5.
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I saw it in the theater when I was 5."
I was 10 that year :-)
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-The Face, chapter 36
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Dustin Crazy wrote: "As always some great names such as the character named Hazard and Mr. Hachette, the happy cook - when the narrator pronounces Hachette, the last of it sounds like "shit" - nice touch."Hat shit? :-D
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Dustin Crazy wrote: ...You listened to the audio didn't you?"Yes, of course.
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Dustin Crazy wrote: "Koontz mentions a character who is considering hiding out in Goose Crotch, Montana in the Face. Is that really the name of a town in Montana?..."No, it's fictional.
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Also, by reading The Face, I learned that by eating loads of Ice Cream I will likely achieve immortality. Thank Goodness! I love Ice Cream! I like Haagen Daas and Ben & Jerry's but overall I feel Breyers offers the best quality product for the the money because Haagen Daas and Ben & Jerry's usually come in smaller containers.
I'm reading THE FACE for the third time and enjoying this discussion. I particularly liked the way Corky found his way into the mansion...ingenious!This one is layered with descriptions of endless and unending rain and storms that add more depth to the book (especially given the nature of Dunny Whistlers 'handler'), and the descriptions of the immense and lonely mansion...which still seems claustrophobic and nothing more than a killing jar for frightened, fed, fragile Fric.
I was also thinking of Tom Cruise for The Face when the book says, "The unicorn movie they never talk about" - which is Legend (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089469), for those who haven't seen it!
Favourite quotes include the ones above about the dictionary being an enormously dirty book. And there's a throwaway line about "Busy as a McBee"
Haven't read this in a while but remember thinking it was okay. I've never understood why it was named after Channing's nickname as he doesn't have much to do with the story. Should be called "The Lawnkiller". Lol.
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There is a new discussion thread in the Current Group Read Discussion Folder, but you might find some of these comments from 2010-2013 interesting.
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