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message 1: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Feb 12, 2010 03:03PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Beware "BUZZ"!
Re: GMail users & Google Buzz (serious privacy concerns)]

Today I found the following message at a newsgroup.
If you use GMail, you may be interested:
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"I'm a GMail user but wasn't even aware of Buzz, and its serious privacy
concerns, until I read these:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/...
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p...

'To switch those functions off, users are required to edit their profile
and uncheck the “Display my full name so I can be found in search” and
“Display the list of people I’m following and people following me” boxes.'

"It took me quite a while to find these check-boxes.
Beware Buzz!"
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A word to the wise is sufficient.


message 2: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 6319 comments Thanks for posting this, Joy. Actually, the stories are not what I've seen at all. My profile didn't have enough information in it to be searchable & when I did put more in it, it asked me who I would allow to see it. I said only people I chat with - a very limited list. I guess I've always assumed that anything I put in there would be visible, so when I tested it from another account, I wasn't surprised at all by what I found.


message 3: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jim wrote: "Thanks for posting this, Joy. Actually, the stories are not what I've seen at all. My profile didn't have enough information in it to be searchable & when I did put more in it, it asked me who I ..."

Jim, I really have had no experience with Google's new "Buzz". I do have a couple of G-mail addys but I don't use them. I've gotten too comfortable with the email programs I started out with. I didn't want go through the trouble of getting used to another system, although I can see that G-mail has some very good features. One of our sons uses it and he keeps telling me that I ought to use it. Maybe someday...


message 4: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 6319 comments Joy, Google is apologizing now for their privacy breach, but EPIC is still filing a complaint with the FCC.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/w...




message 5: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Feb 18, 2010 07:11AM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jim wrote: "Joy, Google is apologizing now for their privacy breach, but EPIC is still filing a complaint with the FCC.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/w... "


Jim, thanks very much for posting that info and the link to go with it.
Excerpt from the link:
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"Kaprove says that despite the changes, Google Buzz remains essentially an opt-out service. "What they call a 'suggest model' still results in a screen with the boxes checked," he explained. To make the service more strictly opt-in, Kaprove suggests that the check boxes to follow people on Buzz should be in an unchecked state by default.

"Google has traditionally preferred to set up services so that people have to opt-out rather than opt-in. Google's book scanning effort, Google News, and its search index all operate on the assumption that content owners want to be included."
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The following words (used above) are fairly new to my vocabulary. I point them out here because they are useful in articulating information about program set-ups:
opt-out / opt-in
check box (or check-box) (noun)
checked / unchecked



message 6: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 6319 comments The opt-in/opt-out debate goes way beyond Google. A lot of places you order from online will have a check box for options on them sending you emails or newsletters. Sometimes you have to actually click a link to see these options. In that case, they are almost always opt-out. Facebook does the same thing, so I don't see Google as too evil for this - just typical.


message 7: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jim wrote: "The opt-in/opt-out debate goes way beyond Google. A lot of places you order from online will have a check box for options on them sending you emails or newsletters. Sometimes you have to actually..."

Yes, Jim, you're absolutely right! That little check-box is so important... and so easy to ignore!

"A word to the wise is sufficient." :)


message 8: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments About the expression: "A word to the wise is sufficient.":

I remember this saying because a 6th grade teacher in a school in Mount Vernon, NY, where I used to teach (in the 1950s), said it very often to her students (especially when she was disciplining them). I wish I could remember her name. I was in my twenties. She must have been in her fifties or sixties. Too bad she couldn't know that she would be remembered for such wisdom.


message 9: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 6319 comments Buzz has caused Google even more problems, but I hope they squash this one. I don't have much use for this kind of garbage.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-104...



message 10: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Oh, gee. What a headache!


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