For those of you who have read Book 7: The Vipers Nest (SPOILERS!!)

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

Ok now we can just talk about the book without worrying about giving anything away to those who haven't read it (who shouldn't be reading this right now. Except me cuz I already know what happens.).

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

YaYAYAYAYAYAY!!! Amy and Dan are Madrigals, Amy meets a chess playing South African(i think) guy... :P looks like Ian,

Teh Hammer and Dan know morse code

the clue is NOT diamonds, it is Aloe

Shaka is a stupid name (bwahahaha)

Kurt is stupid X__X (HATE that guy!!!!)

Ian says that Amy doesn't know what its like to live with Isabel

The Tomas have a stupid security

Dan almost dies

The Green franklin vial is a deadly, slow working poison.

The clue was right before their very eyes

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

*cough cough*

Eh-hem..

remember Madeline???!!!???!1

Madrigals?

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

Yeah, but wasn't the vial I.K. (Isabel Kabra :P hate her) had a decoy that she put poison in, it wasn't the real vial?

Do not diss the Tomas.

I liked the name Shaka until I found out what it meant.

I haven't finished the whole book yet, but I like Kurt.

Yeah, Medeleine was the founder of the Madrigals.

Does anyone need help figuring out the codes in book 7 or from Card Pack 3?

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

No, it was real.. Ummm, what does Shaka mean, exactly? lol... I don't have card pack 3 and the stuff was aloe and something else.. EASY PEASY!!!

I HATE KURT!!! AMY STEALER!!!

Omg, Amy was so OOC in this.. :'(

[Abby]

I like Kurt, as a person, but IAN/AMY FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yes, Diana, I need help figuring out the codes in book 7 and Card Pack 3. You wouldn't happen to know them, would you? PLEASE say you do!

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

Yeah, I know all but two of them (the ones in the front & back cover of the book, probably using the same code). Which one(s) do you need help with? Be aware, I'll only give hints; I won't tell you the answers directly because that would be no fun/challenge for you!

Shaka means "intestinal parasite," if I remember correctly. His birth was a disgrace to his father's family.

And, just to be different...KURTxAMY!!!! Ian is a snake. I think Kurt is a nice guy (...and that worked out SO well the last time...nvm). At least he knows what he stands for. Kurt is cuter than Ian, from the description, and he nice to Amy even though she is shy and stutters, whereas Ian makes fun of Amy and Dan's faults. Kurt isn't an Amy stealer because Ian have Amy up anyway. He threw her away like a used paper towel. What does OOC mean?

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

KURT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS IAN EXCEPT HE HAS LIGHTER EYES!!! Dark eyes are gaw-gous

Out Of Character

:D

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

Ian loves amy.. He's a "complicated child", according to Isabel.. And Amy SOOOO likes Ian, although she's in denial.. A bigger sign of TRUE love... <3

And British accents are awsomer than sounth african accents... :D

[Abby]

Diana wrote: "Yeah, I know all but two of them (the ones in the front & back cover of the book, probably using the same code). Which one(s) do you need help with? Be aware, I'll only give hints; I won't tell you..."

Hate to admit it, but I need help with every one you can offer help with. I'm not a Lucian, after all!

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

Haha I'm not a Lucian either, but that's ok, because Tomas are better. Ok, let's start with the code inside the book (beginning on page 39). Have you found it?

Amy was ooc a lot of the time, it seemed to me, especially at the parts she didn't stutter, but I think that's ok. It's part of the character development, even though it's a little fast. In real life, who's to say that I'm acting out of character? Maybe I have undergone a big change, and this is the new me. But yeah, I agree with you. But go Amy for being confident! Even though it almost got Dan killed twice (but neither of those was REALLY her fault).

Can love in denial beat love at first sight?

Dark eyes are nice, but so are light eyes. I think they are both handsome.

British accents are so overrated.

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

I NEED YOUR HELP DIANA!!!!

Okay, so you know on the Madrigal booklet thing? See where the arrow is poiting? There is something there... Hold it away from your face and tell me what you see. I can't seem to figure it out!

[Abby]

Yeah, I found that code in the book. I know it's in Morse Code, but I have NO IDEA what the symbols mean!!!!!!!

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

morse code.. Refer to Card Pack 2

[Abby]

♫♥Selena♥♫ wrote: "morse code.. Refer to Card Pack 2"

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I figured out the code, but I won't post it here in case other people are still trying to figure it out. But THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOO MUCH!

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

♫♥Selena♥♫ wrote: "I NEED YOUR HELP DIANA!!!!

Okay, so you know on the Madrigal booklet thing? See where the arrow is poiting? There is something there... Hold it away from your face and tell me what you see. ..."

You mean the one from card pack 2? I never thought of it that way, but I know what you mean. I'm not very good at seeing those. I looked, and I sort of see an M, but I'll get one of my friends to look at it sometime too.

Did anyone get the codes in the front and back covers of The Viper's Nest?

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

uh-huh.. I noticed that the little black dotty stuffs looked smaller.. Different. I see two evil scientist... Nah, idk.. It's so weird

[Rebekah Faith]

i didn't, but i had to listen to the audio book instead of actually reading it- my library's copy of the book was apparently taken or whatever. but oh well.

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

listening is worse than reading.. Well, depends on what helps you learn best... ^ - ^

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

I'm not an audio learner at all. Maybe that's why I like Sign Language...:)

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

:O

[Rebekah Faith]

it's not that i wanted to, it's that i HAD to. i couldn't keep visiting this group with you talking about spoilers until i found out what happened, now could i?

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

Mhhmmm, For some reason, mine was, like, doing it helps me learn best.

[Savita, There is nothing we Lucians do better than revenge]

Diana wrote: "Haha I'm not a Lucian either, but that's ok, because Tomas are better. Ok, let's start with the code inside the book (beginning on page 39). Have you found it?

Amy was ooc a lot of the time, it ..."

OMG!! I just finished reading it like 10 minutes ago. I love the ending!!! MADRIGALS!!! I wonder what their parents had to do with the man in black... The code is definetly Morse code, but I can't decode it. Yup, Morse code. And I wish Kurt was heir to the Lucian leadership instead of Ian. Dang, how I wish... Kurt + Amy 4ever. Totally. Ian is overrated. Always was overrated. Wait, what's OOC?

[Rebekah Faith]

out of character

but kurt couldn't be heir to lucian cause hes a tomas(?)

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

no, kurt is a normal ugly head. uh-huh

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

How did we even come to the conclusion that Kurt is a Cahill at all? jw

[Savita, There is nothing we Lucians do better than revenge]

KURT + AMY 4EVER!! Sorry had to make my point to selena. For some reason, I think he is. I love how Alistair "dies"!!! That was hilarious!!!

[Rebekah Faith]

Diana wrote: "How did we even come to the conclusion that Kurt is a Cahill at all? jw"

he's a member of **spoiler** professor bardsley's choir- of which "Most were Tomas" and i just assumed, so he may or may not actually be a cahill

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

He's WHAT? Back up...ohhhhhh now I remember. Lol ok all good. Hmmm...so he's that much better! Go Tomas!

[Savita, There is nothing we Lucians do better than revenge]

He would make a better Lucian. You know, becuase he's so cute. And doesn't wear hideous purple tracksuits.

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

:O Not all Lucians are cute, people are just blinded by their expensives clothes and extensive power (we have power too, we just hide it better). Actually we hide it under our stylish purple tracksuits. Purple is an awesome color! Not all Tomas wear purple tracksuits. Or, maybe he does but he's in disguise.

[Savita, There is nothing we Lucians do better than revenge]

No, we are all perfect. And you can't hide power if you don't have it.

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

Savita wrote: "He would make a better Lucian. You know, becuase he's so cute. And doesn't wear hideous purple tracksuits."

Hey! Hamilton has cute hair. Before, I didn't like him that much, but then I saw his picture. <3 He is, sadly, cuter than Ian.

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

Purple=the new awesomesauce

[Savita, There is nothing we Lucians do better than revenge]

Uck. Please. Red is so much better. And Hamilton? The Holt? What kind of Lucian are you?

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

Ooh! Purple!
And I like that... "HAMILTON. The Holt." Nice ring to it.

[Savita, There is nothing we Lucians do better than revenge]

Uh, I don't think it has much of a ring. More like a thud. And agains Uck. Purple is gross.

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

Teh Hammer...

Purple is awesome. Red is SO boring.

Purple is bright. In fact, I am wearing a pretty purple shirt now.

I also like green, but only light green/neon/a normal shade of green. dark green is ucky.

[Savita, There is nothing we Lucians do better than revenge]

I agree with green. But, seriously! What kind of Lucain are you? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOVE RED!!!! Not purple. Isabel needs to have a "talk" with you.

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

and when I "talk" to her, I'm going to tell her that some certain somebodies dislike her son.

[Savita, There is nothing we Lucians do better than revenge]

SO? What's wrong with not liking Ian? He's not an inherent part of Lucianship like red is. He'll be gone *cough, cough* soon enough.

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

*lip wobble*

WHAT????? *bawls*

[Savita, There is nothing we Lucians do better than revenge]

You heard me!!!!! The question is, will his end be natural or not...

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

Ummmm... AWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

*sniff* i... I... *wails*

*SOB*

Oh man. I'm literally tearing up.

[Abby]

NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Don't you dare kill Ian! He has to get together with Amy so they can live happily ever after!!!!!!!!!

[Diana, The Tomas will SQUISH YOU!!!]

Ah! Ian lover! Ian-haters, unite!

[Savita, There is nothing we Lucians do better than revenge]

AHHH!!! Abby, are you Lucian? As much as I usually hate alliances with Tomas, IAN-HATERS, UNITE!

[Abby]

I don't love Ian- I just think that he and Amy are meant to be together! Therefore, killing him would ruin my internal fantasies involving him someday becoming a good guy, he and Amy getting together, and them living a perfect life together!
Oh, and I'm not a Lucian. I'm an Ekat. Or at least, I used to be...

[♫♥Selena♥♫, THE LUCIANS SHALL DESTROY ALL! Or win.. Winning's good too.]

I love Ian...