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message 1: by RandomAnthony (last edited Jan 23, 2010 04:13PM) (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Which do you prefer, cake mixes or making cakes from scratch? Is there an appreciable difference in the end product? What's the difference, assuming there is one?

My kids and I, as I think I mentioned in the Cake tv thread, have been making more cookies and cupcakes. Yesterday we did our first cake...the results...

http://randomanthonyreturns.blogspot....

The librarian pointed out that we could have made the frosting on our own fairly easily but for the first run-through I thought we'd use a mix and the frosting you buy right next to the mixes. I should have bought the gel with which to write, though, the other frosting isn't good writing material.

But I got to thinking...

Pros of cake mixes/premade frosting: Ridiculously easy, way easier than cookies, even, cheap, and still pretty good.

Cons of cake mixes/premade frosting: Not as much of a sense of accomplishment, all the cakes made from the mix taste the same.

What do you think? Next weekend we might make another cake from the box but make our own frosting this time. One step at a time:)


message 2: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) I like cake.


message 3: by Mandy (new)

Mandy (mandypants) I like cakes from scratch the best. I have some recipes that are basically just as easy as mixes and taste fantastic. The density of cakes from scratch definitely varies unlike the springy mix cakes. Of course, mixes have their place when time is short and a foolproof cake is needed.

Now, I think premade frosting is so super nasty. I just taste chemicals and every different flavor has the same base taste. Bleh. Homemade frosting every time for me whether it's buttercream, fluffy marshmallowy frosting, or a chocolate ganache like frosting. Mmmm.


message 4: by Sandi (new)

Sandi (sandikal) I like cakes from scratch because I know exactly what's going in them. For Christmas, I made spice cupcakes with caramel frosting and fudge cupcakes with peppermint frosting. They were so delicious, and unique. The caramel frosting is ridiculously time-consuming, but the peppermint frosting was super-easy. The fudge cupcakes were a bit complicated because they required some melted baking chocolate. The spice cupcakes (from my favorite spice cake recipe) were super easy.


message 5: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
The only box cake I enjoy is the white one with the sprinkles mixed in so that the cake ends up multi-colored. But like Bun says, it and all other box cakes taste the same, artificial sweet and I find the texture mildly displeasing.
I really love baking, and cakes are one of the most fun things to make.

Frosting, however, is super difficult for me. I like cream cheese frosting the best. But butter cream or any kind of chocolate ends up being either too goopy or too runny, so especially if the cake needs to look nice, like if I'm giving it as a gift, I'll go ahead and use storebought for that.


message 6: by Mary (new)

Mary (madamefifi) I like to put on my ridiculously high heels and make cakes from a mix. Then I put on my stained and worn leather clogs and make frosting from scratch.


message 7: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Mary wrote: "I like to put on my ridiculously high heels and make cakes from a mix. Then I put on my stained and worn leather clogs and make frosting from scratch."

Same here.




Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments Basic frosting is not hard. It's butter and powdered sugar, plus whatever flavoring you want in it. Maybe some orange juice and orange zest, maybe some almond extract, maybe some cocoa. Okay, usually cocoa. :)

I agree with Mandy that storebought frosting tastes strongly of chemicals.

I am not a fan of cake mixes, for the reasons Bun stated. On the other hand, brownie mix rocks!


message 9: by Cosmic Sher (new)

Cosmic Sher (sherart) | 2234 comments I have been dubbed the Queen of the Cake Mix by my family. I love cakes made from scratch but I don't usually have time to whip those up, so I alter the cake mixes instead. I usually end up adding a heaping spoonful of sour cream to a mix, then adding more spices/flavors that compliment the mix like dark chocolate shavings or almond extract or extra cinnamon & nutmeg. This can make any mix really yummy & moist.

Frosting is a different matter, however. As Mandy said, they all taste so chemically. Cream cheese frosting is really easy and you can flavor it in so many ways. But, the BEST frosting EVER is one we use for Bdays & such all the time. It's a mixture of cream cheese & whipped cream & brown sugar. It's to die for! :)

I'll post the recipe if anyone is interested.


message 10: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Oh, yes, please, Sher...and a basic (and I mean BASIC:) frosting recipe, too, anyone...thanks.


message 11: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments from scratch of course. i have a lot of childhood memories where i try to meassure ingredients, or break eggs, then fish all the eggshells from the batter, and a huge fight afterwards to decide who gets to lick the leftover batter from the bowl.


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments "PERFECTLY CHOCOLATE" CHOCOLATE FROSTING

1/2 cup (1 stick) butter or margarine
2/3 cup HERSHEY'S Cocoa
3 cups powdered sugar
1/3 cup milk
1 teaspoon vanilla extract

Melt butter. Stir in cocoa. Alternately add powdered sugar and milk, beating to spreading consistency. Add small amount additional milk, if needed. Stir in vanilla. About 2 cups frosting.


message 13: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments You rule, librarian. Thanks.


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments Happy to help with your chocolate frosting needs, RA. :)


message 15: by Bonnie (new)

Bonnie What brand are you using? To be honest I get so many compliments from my Betty Crocker cakes and frosting that I always tell everyone that I make my cakes from scratch (White lies never hurt anyone). We have this show here called "The Shopping Bags" it's a product testing and review show, and they rated Betty Crocker to be their favourite cake mix. Just use milk instead of water and they turn out fab.


message 16: by Bonnie (new)

Bonnie spiderman copy

I made these for my Dad, they are so cute I had to post them.


message 17: by Mandy (last edited Jan 25, 2010 02:36PM) (new)

Mandy (mandypants) Those are the cutest cupcakes Bonnie!!


message 18: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments I prefer most everything from scratch.


message 19: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
I think "from scratch" is a peculiar phrase.


message 20: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments I think "peculiar" is a peculiar word. :)


message 21: by Cosmic Sher (new)

Cosmic Sher (sherart) | 2234 comments Okay, here's our favorite frosting for chocolate cake. For the cake I usually mix a Devil's food & a German choc cake mix together, which will fill 3 9" cake pans. We usually freeze the extra one for later. Don't forget to add to the mix sour cream, a bit of vanilla and extra cocoa powder or shaved baking chocolate for richness.

Whipped Cream Cheese Frosting

1 large Cool Whip or 1 pint whipping cream, whipped very stiffly
1 8 oz cream cheese, softened
2/3 cup light brown sugar, packed well
1/2 tsp salt
1 tsp vanilla

Beat together cream cheese, brown sugar, salt & vanilla until light and fluffy. Then fold in the whipped cream until it is entirely incorporated. Don't beat this with a mixer or your frosting will go flat.

Split 2 9" cake rounds in half (you can use a long piece of thread wrapped around the center of the cake, then pull through to split it) and top each layer with frosting. Secure the 2nd and 4th layers with toothpicks as you go, otherwise the cake may slide. This will give you a tall 4 layered cake. Dust with a bit of cocoa or shave chocolate on top. *Keep in the refridgerator until ready to serve, or else the frosting may "melt"*

Warning: this cake is addictive and prone to give the over-eater a very full tummy!


message 22: by Mandy (new)

Mandy (mandypants) To go along with Cosmic Sher's deliciously awesome sounding frosting...my favorite devil's food chocolate cake recipe. So yummy and easy. I think they may be a match made in heaven.

* 2 cups all-purpose flour
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 1 teaspoon baking powder
* 2 teaspoons baking soda
* 3/4 cup unsweetened cocoa powder
* 2 cups sugar
* 1 cup vegetable oil
* 1 cup hot coffee
* 1 cup milk or soy milk
* 2 large eggs
* 1 teaspoon vanilla

1. Preheat oven to 325.

2. In a large mixing bowl, sift together dry ingredients. Add oil, coffee and milk and mix at medium speed for 2 minutes. Add eggs and vanilla and beat 2 more minutes. Expect batter to be thin.

3.Pour into a 9" x 13" greased and floured pan or 2- 9" round pans. Bake 9 x 13 pan for about 45 minutes or 9" pans for about 30 minutes. Cool in pans for about 15 minutes and then cool completely on racks.


message 23: by Cosmic Sher (new)

Cosmic Sher (sherart) | 2234 comments Oh Mandy, I think I hear wedding bells! That sounds absolutely scrumptious. I may have to try a little baking this weekend. :)


message 24: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Ok, I decided to start easy and go with the frosting recipe Jackie posted back in post #14, and man, it turned out great! Thanks! Perfect hangover cure. The kids liked it, too...my nine year old, however, said, "I can still taste the egg" although no eggs were included...pictures of the complete cake later. We bought a decorating gun, so this could get interesting.


message 26: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments THAT is one really cute cake!!!


message 27: by [deleted user] (new)

Nice job RA & Co.


message 28: by Mandy (new)

Mandy (mandypants) Kids + Decorating Gun = Awesome

Oh, and N rocks with his Bob addition. Love that name. I use it as a pet name for everyone. If someone knows me long enough I inevitably end up calling them Bob.


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments Awesome cake! It looks like an aerial view of a gummy bear guerilla war. :)


message 30: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments You could've saved a bit of money on the decorating gun, though... and just cut a hole in the corner of a ziploc bag... works like a charm every time.


message 31: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Ha, thanks, people. Yes, Mindy, "Bob" is a go-to name around for the boys here when they're picking on each other. The next option after "Bob" is "Esmerelda" so "Bob" usually works:) And yes, Jacks, N was making walls around some gummi bear factions:)

I may try the ziploc thing next time, Jacks...I think the gun is good for working on the edges of cakes...like the raised edges...but for other parts a ziploc bag would work, I agree.




message 32: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
I've tried that technique with little success. What with my shitty frosting making skills, and tendency to squeeze hard when I get frustrated I almost always burst the bag and make a big ol mess.


message 33: by Lori (new)

Lori I have just bookmarked this page, but I'm sorry I read it now because I want cake RIGHT NOW!

Sometimes when I get lazy all I do for frosting is whip chocolate powder or melted Ghiradelli chips with cream til it's very stiff, more like buttercream.

Oh and I'm one of those that likes (good) frosting more than the cake. I'm a complete child when it comes to corner pieces!


message 34: by RandomAnthony (last edited Jan 30, 2010 04:32PM) (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Frosting making today was messy but in a fun way. Powdered sugar is hard to control. But try Jackie's recipe, Sallers, it's easy.


message 35: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
I made crumb coffee cake today. I seem to be making this about every two weeks right now. The pecan crumble topping makes me weak in the knees.


message 36: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments Sally wrote: "I've tried that technique with little success. What with my shitty frosting making skills, and tendency to squeeze hard when I get frustrated I almost always burst the bag and make a big ol mess."

Seriously, double bag it... triple bag if you need to - the smaller the hole you start off with, the better control you'll have over what comes out - the gallon sized bags seem to work best, IMO.




message 37: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
Well, that explains a lot about my disasters. Seriously.


message 38: by Lori (new)

Lori Great tip!


message 39: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments My auntie spent hundreds of $$$ to take a professional cake decorating class, and she's the one who shared that tip with me.


message 40: by Mandy (new)

Mandy (mandypants) I use a Ziploc bag to frost too. But, you can buy this cool tip adapter that you put on the inside of the bag. Then you just change the tips out as you want. I never buy the decorator bags.

http://www.wilton.com/store/site/prod...

I may have to try using Esmeralda. Now I just use "cupcake" or "princess" when harassing the husband. We'll have to see how he takes being called Esmeralda. hehehe.


message 41: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments Nice!!


message 42: by RandomAnthony (last edited Feb 07, 2010 11:15AM) (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments So we made a cake today from scratch, start to finish! The oldest and youngest sons decorated with an army theme, including, ahem, red frosting blood. Also, the "from scratch" part wasn't hard at all, you guys were right, and gave me an excuse to clean out my cabinet.

A couple notes:

1. The smell of "from scratch" cakes is so different than "mix" cakes. The smell of the former is better and permeates the entire house.

2. The cake is flatter but tastes heavenly.

Pics!

http://randomanthonyreturns.blogspot....



message 43: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments Your boys are so friggin cute! The cake turned out much cuter this time. :)


message 44: by [deleted user] (new)

Excellent job RA, they seem to enjoy it.


message 45: by Mandy (new)

Mandy (mandypants) Fantastic cake!! i vote they make my b-day cake this year. Love the army/blood theme.


message 46: by RandomAnthony (last edited Feb 07, 2010 01:19PM) (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Thanks, people! Buns, I owe you one and I thought of you while pulling the cake out of the oven because of one of your earlier posts:

With a cake mix you get a particular kind of cake, sort of springy and fluffy and with a fairly strong taste of baking powder because the mixes have a lot of it.

When I first looked at the finished cake today I was all "wow, it's flat! Did I do something wrong?" But I remembered what you said, Buns, and then I tasted the cake and everything was fine. Maybe cake isn't always supposed to be all springy, eh?


message 47: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments I'm not ready for dulce de leche yet...maybe soon:)

Two cakes this week...

Cake #1:

http://randomanthonyreturns.blogspot....

Cake #2

http://randomanthonyreturns.blogspot....

I've got to work on presentation a bit, but I tell you, baking is turning out to be a huge stress reliever. I swear, gathering the ingredients, putting them together, firing up the mixer, etc...my blood pressure plummets.


message 48: by [deleted user] (new)

I got up yesterday and made blueberry/cranberry scones. Baking really can be a stress reliever, until you turn around and see the dishes.



message 49: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Doing dishes is a stress reliever for me, too.


message 50: by Cosmic Sher (last edited Feb 14, 2010 09:02PM) (new)

Cosmic Sher (sherart) | 2234 comments Okay, I can't relate to the doing dishes part, but baking has always made me happy. All the measuring and mixing and then the aroma of it in the oven just before its done. Heaven!

If I was a real witch I imagine I'd be a kitchen witch doing magic in all my cooking. I do try to think happy thoughts, imagining pouring in love & peace & comfort in all my preparations.


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