Charlaine Harris Book/Show Group discussion
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What's your list?
Okay you aren't going to like me because Eric is not my first choice. 1) I really want to see her end up with Sam because he CARES about her and goes out of his way for her. True, she may not have feelings for him but that can change.
2) Preston, he's from "Gift Wrapped" from Touch of Dead. They had a connection.
3) Quinn, I think she was too hasty breaking up with him. True he has some family issues but he deserves another chance.
4) Calvin Norris, I think he deserves a chance. He's feelings fro Sookie are genuine.
5) Bill, actually he and Calvin are tied. True Bill lied to Sookie but he has regretted it and he still cares for her. I think he has learned his lesson.
6) Alcide, schmuck who is hung up on his psychotic ex girlfriend. Enough said.
7) Eric, he is dead last *excuse the pun* because he is the one I trust the least in his sincerity.
I would also go for someone completely new. Anything can happen in the next 4 books.
I think the Bill betrayal thing with Lorena is so way blown out of context. First of all Bill never did anything with Lorena than get tortured. All the behind her back stuff is totally unsubstantiated. Bill was Sookies first, and as such is going to get a much heavier emotional response than another guy. I think it was wise of Bill to let Sookie play the field, and go out with other people. To see if she really loved him. Yeah Bill. Eric is to manipulative of Sookie, Alcide is in another league, Quinn is just to untrustworthy & complicated, Sam would be cool. But I think Sookie needs to meet a regular guy, so she can have kids, and be the normal person she always wanted to be. She has had a lifetimes worth of adventure, and no longer has a fairy god mother. It is time for her to meet a nice stable, secure human able to provide for her. Then settle down to having a couple kids. Making a family and a home. Maybe having the supes over for a visit now and again. Like a visit from good old uncle Bill, Eric, or Lafayette.
The only people on my list are Eric and Sam, in that order. Bill's personality just doesn't appeal to me. I was never into Quinn. I kind of like Alcide, but I don't like the Were pack stuff, and I think he is too jealous. I know her relationship with Eric would never be anything close to a normal human relationship, but I just love Eric.
1. Eric. He's a easy pick for the top of my list. He will always be there for Sookie's damsel in distress nonsense. Of course, she may not always be a damsel in distress if she was with a human. 2. Alcide. I know the pack master stuff was gross but so is drinking blood. I don't know why him having to, umm, expand the pack was so hard on Sookie. It seemed a little strange that after everything she's seen, that was the dealbreaker.I love Alcide and his tough manly attiude. He's very sexy.
3. Sam. I like Sam alot but he may be a little boring. Sookie is just not that into him.
4. Quinn. Something annoys me about the way he always calls her babe. But I think he wuold take care of her if she could come to some sort of agreement with Frannie and his mom.
5-499. Anyone else.
500. Bill. He is a jerk. He should have told her about Sophie Anne sending him. I don't think she can get over it and I don't trust him. And he's not a six foot four Viking.
Vikings were nothing more than pirates generally. Bill could not tell Sookie anything because he was under instructions from the Queen. Revealing her plans would have got Bill offed. Lorena was Bills maker. She got him to come to Mississippi. Big deal nothing happened. What do you think Eric would do if Pam called and said. Eric I'm in a jam please come help me. Eric got Bill to tell Sookie about it for personal reasons, after Sophie Anne had ordered Eric to get Bill free. Eric is always about Eric. It seems odd to me that Bill being the Queens investigator for area 5 should have to answer to Eric at all. Bill came out of the debacle quite well I think.
Eric's character has a lot more depth, he's not just a Viking. And I'm not sure whether it's clear that "nothing" happened with Lorena, though I understand that she was his maker and that is a complicated relationship.
I agree with Kate. I can't say Alcide is my forerunner, but I have never understood why his responsibilty to further the future of his pack is such a big deal. It seems a purely physical act. I realize we have come a long way, but there have been many cultures, even religions, where men have more than one bride, concubine partner, whatever, and those women dealt with it. I just don't see it as that big of a deal when held up against all the other crazy stuff the supes do. Drinking blood is the least of it.
I agree that Eric is more than just a Viking. Eric is stilol and always been out for Eric.
Eric being a Viking is imaterial. As for Alcide he is Alpha male for his pack. That position is acknowledged by sexual domination over the pack. As main man, and guiding light of the Shreveport pack Alcide is obligated to put the pack before everything else in his life. Even so Sookie herself would never stand for being #1 girl in Alcides harem of wolves. How would you like to just have to deal with having your husband cut out on you every other night or two to bang some other chic. No you wouldn't stand for it for one second. Sookie is an old fashioned girl. Not a swinger by a long shot. She would never stand for anything but a monogomose relationship.
I agree, Cary. Sookie wants a one-woman man.
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Bill is a wimp and he lied.
Alcide is a neanderthal who made all kinds of assumptions about Sookie. I think what tied it for me was when he told her she owed him because he knew she killed Debbie. Then there's all the pack stuff. I wouldn't want MY man having to mate with someone everytime there was a possibility of offspring.
Calvin isn't even in the running. What? She's supposed to consider him because he has a job with benefits and can protect her? I don't think so.
Quinn had a Gee-Whiz approach to sex and called her 'Babe' all the time.
Sam is sweet and I suppose if she can't have Eric, I'd vote for him.
Bill is not a wimp. He is a Civil War vet, and bad ass fighter. When ever there is a big fight Bill is around. In the last book Dead and Gone. Bill kicked ass and killed Brendan the evil Fairy Prince. At the cost of Trays life (bummer)! Bill has been in all the major fights. He bit the Maenad and was hurt pretty bad. He fought in the Witch War. Curriously Bill and Eric are always on the same side. They respect each other, but dont like each other because they are competing for Sookies affections. It's not over yet, and Sookie is confused. But neither of them will get her. Charlaine has lots of stuff bouncing in her head yet. She may come up with a brand new stud muffin that will blow all the old contenders away. We will just have to wait and see babe, LOL.
1. Sam: He's cool and overall genuine in his feelings. Also not annoying as some of the suitors2. Bill: He deserves a second chance. He's done so much for Sookie plus he was there first in her life.
3. Alcide: Aside from the pack sex thing nothing really makes me hate him. But that's too big a jump for Sookie.
4. Quinn: Too much baggage, enough said.
5. Eric: I have no idea why people put him as number one. He conned SOokie into marrying her?
Cary wrote: " I think the Bill betrayal thing with Lorena is so way blown out of context. First of all Bill never did anything with Lorena than get tortured. All the behind her back stuff is totally unsubstanti..."Cary, I completely agree! It drives me crazy how he gets blamed for so much that was out of his control! Was he perfect....no, but don't blame him for what he wasn't in control of!
Yes for sure Bill has taken a real beating for a lot that he was powerless over. I think ultimately Bill will more than redeem himself.
Cary wrote: " Yes for sure Bill has taken a real beating for a lot that he was powerless over. I think ultimately Bill will more than redeem himself. "In the last book, when he was near death(even for a vampire) and stood to fight and protect Sookie....all I could think is that she's deaf, dumb and blind if she doesn't see how he feels and realize he would give his life for her!
What an AWESOME question! :)Here are my answers, from least to most likely:
6. Calvin - I never saw Sookie with Calvin, since she never had anything more than fond feelings for him, along with a little guilt that it couldn't just be that easy.
5. Sam- I could see Sookie with Sam if she'd never met Bill and gotten immersed in the vamp world. Once that happened - any lasting chance of that was gone, I think. Plus, he'd always be more into her than she in him, and I think it would eventually sour the relationship.
4. Alcide - I agree with you all about Alcide - the way he changed during the pack leader challenges - and seemed to blame Sookie for something HE got her involved in that backfired on him. He got way, way too alpha and too into his pack, and I can't see Sookie ever being comfortable with that hierarchy. Which is too bad, because initially I liked Alcide's character a lot.
3. Bill - I thought Bill and Sookie were well-matched initially, but he didn't trust her with the truth when he could have - both with Lorena AND being sent by the queen. I think those two things changed the way Sookie would look at Bill forever, even though she still does have feelings for him. I think she has outgrown him, in a way - she's gone on to do so much more in the vamp world without him...the world he's tried to remove himself from as much as possible. Although I thought they would get back together after they split, it seems like he has been relegated to First Love status.
2. Quinn - I was disappointed things didn't work out with Quinn, and thought Sookie's reasoning for the split was a little on the hypocritical side - especially when you look at what she's done for her idiotic brother during the course of the books. Although I could understand her being hurt at not hearing from him for so long, Quinn proved his heart and loyalty to her on several occasions, and I thought they were a dynamic match together.
1. Eric - I didn't care for Eric in the beginning at all, despite his jaded "bad-vamp" thing he had going (and undeniable HOTNESS). Sookie and Eric have both changed a lot throughout the series - in many ways, for the good. She has sparked something in him that seems to have been dormant for centuries. CH has dropped a lot of hints that he is The One for her, although I can't see that being an easy event that transpires.
I think Sookie still tends to discount herself and hasn't really found her place in the world yet - especially with her newfound fairy heritage. It makes her even less "human" than she was already. I am excited to see how her character continues to grow, and see who she winds up with. I would say Eric is the most likely, so far.
Cary wrote: " Bill is not a wimp. He is a Civil War vet, and bad ass fighter. When ever there is a big fight Bill is around. In the last book Dead and Gone. Bill kicked ass and killed Brendan the evil Fairy Pri..."I don't mean he's afraid to fight. I meant he's a wimp about Sookie. In my book, having to have Eric force him to tell Sookie the truth is wimpy behavior.
But of course, we don't know who she'll end up with. Didn't you say you're only on book 6?
Kathy wrote: "Cary wrote: " Yes for sure Bill has taken a real beating for a lot that he was powerless over. I think ultimately Bill will more than redeem himself. "In the last book, when he was near death(eve..."
And so did Eric.
Sandra wrote: "Kathy wrote: "Cary wrote: " Yes for sure Bill has taken a real beating for a lot that he was powerless over. I think ultimately Bill will more than redeem himself. "In the last book, when he wa..."
Eric wasn't as badly injured as Bill....
But even though I'm team Bill....I don't think she'll end up with either Eric or Bill. I just think that Sookie wants someone ultimates that she can have a family with and even share simple things like breakfast with. I don't think she will ultimately end up with a vampire at all. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Someone mentioned in a spoiler awhile back that indeed neither Eric or Bill will get Sookie. She will want a normal life, and she no longer has the prtection of Claudine who had no motivations other than love. Eric is into Sookie for her mindreading ability, and the power it will give him. I am so tired of hearing the Bill is a wimp, and Bill lied. Bill did not expect to fall in love with Sookie but he did. He was first. Bill will always be first. Eric used all kinds of deviousness to force Sookie to him, and steal her from Bill. That is not love. It is the desire to aquire. The Queen would have had Bills head on a pike if he spoke up to soon. Eric rescued Bill and then threatend to tell Sookie himself. Eric is about Eric. Bill did man up and tell her. He knew he could at that point because the Queen would have told Eric what was up by then. Yay Bill!
Cary wrote: " Someone mentioned in a spoiler awhile back that indeed neither Eric or Bill will get Sookie. She will want a normal life, and she no longer has the prtection of Claudine who had no motivations oth..."I agree 200%, Cary!!!
You know I have never taken sides in the story. I have always liked all the characters. I just hope the next book is not so tragic. It is nice to hear some good things said about Bill Kathy. It was really driving me nuts hearing the same Bill lied, or Bill was so bad to Sookie.
Cary wrote: " You know I have never taken sides in the story. I have always liked all the characters. I just hope the next book is not so tragic. It is nice to hear some good things said about Bill Kathy. It wa..."I know what you mean, Cary. Sure he wasn't perfect and sure he should've done some things differently...but that can be said of everybody. Most of the things he's been lynched for weren't his fault. Nobody's perfect!
Cary wrote: " Someone mentioned in a spoiler awhile back that indeed neither Eric or Bill will get Sookie. She will want a normal life, and she no longer has the prtection of Claudine who had no motivations oth..."I really don't feel like Eric "used all sorts of deviousness" to get Sookie away from Bill. Sookie left Bill for her own reasons, after she saved his life. Then when Eric had amnesia and he and Sookie were together, that wasn't Eric's idea at all. The couple times Eric has had Sookie take his blood, there has been a benefit for Sookie, too. The only time he "tricked" her was in LDID when he told her she should suck the bullet out... Even the knife ceremony thing, Sookie could have looked at what was in the package or asked questions about it, but she didn't, and Eric did that to protect Sookie, too. I'm not saying Eric is perfect and Bill is horrible, I just think Eric has really done a lot of things to help and protect Sookie, even things that were against his better vampire judgment. I am partial to Eric's personality, he seems to have a sense of humor and he seems more fun than Bill.
Fiona wrote: "Cary wrote: " Someone mentioned in a spoiler awhile back that indeed neither Eric or Bill will get Sookie. She will want a normal life, and she no longer has the prtection of Claudine who had no mo..."But even if Sookie had peeked at the knife, she wouldn't have known what it meant. It was a total manipulation on his part. Sure, it saved her life, but he also benefited from it also.....and I think thats what was his first concern. Saving her was secondary. Eric will always come first!
Kathy wrote: "Fiona wrote: "Cary wrote: " Someone mentioned in a spoiler awhile back that indeed neither Eric or Bill will get Sookie. She will want a normal life, and she no longer has the prtection of Claudine..."Maybe Eric does put himself first, but Sookie is not a mindless idiot who doesn't know she's dealing with vampires. Why didn't she ask why she had to give the thing to Eric before she gave it to him?
Fiona wrote: "Kathy wrote: "Fiona wrote: "Cary wrote: " Someone mentioned in a spoiler awhile back that indeed neither Eric or Bill will get Sookie. She will want a normal life, and she no longer has the prtecti..."She definitely should have questioned all this. That I agree with.
My very point. Sookie is dealing with Vampires. So why all the hubub over Bills minor discrepancies.
Eric could have told her why he was doing what he was doing. I think there could have been another solution besides claiming her
I think another angle to this discussion is the fact that, immortal or human or were-whatever, the characters in this series are always changing. Eric has changed considerably from his introduction to the current book - otherwise, he'd be too easy to write off as a selfish vamp with a superiority complex. I have a hard time seeing Sookie with just an average mortal guy; she can hear their thoughts and that will not make for a healthy relationship, which means she probably winds up with a super of some kind. Any mortal will be threatened by her abilities and ties to the super world, anyway. There could be some sort of twist that allows her to have the family she wants... maybe. :) (I almost wonder if something will cause Sookie to need to raise Hadley's child as her own..?)
Plus, Sookie's never been completely human, and is now exploring what that means to her. It must be somewhat of a relief for her to get some insight into why she's never really fit in the mortal world.
Chelle wrote: "I think another angle to this discussion is the fact that, immortal or human or were-whatever, the characters in this series are always changing. Eric has changed considerably from his introduction..."I Agree with Chelle!
My list..1. Eric - he may be a bit selfish but he does try to take care of Sookie as well.. he paid for her driveway to get replaced, he replaced her front door, he replaced her coat .. yes he tricked her into basically marrying him but it was also to protect her from the new Vampires in charge..
2. Sam - he is there for her and definitely cares about her but he is also her boss so that makes it a little awkward at the same time to be more than friends..
3. Quinn - I understand why she let him go but I think he deserved another chance
4. Bill - He seems to stiff, he is really hard to read emotionally.. he comes off a lot of the time like he just wants her for the physical side of the relationship - but he does come through to try and save her when he can although I personally think he should have come clean about why he was originally in Bon Temps to Sookie when he started to really care for her
5. Someone that hasn't shown up yet - I know some people had Alcide on their list and Calvin but I can't see it personally.. Alcide would see Debbie's killer I think when he looked at Sookie (that is too big a thing to get over) and when it comes to Calvin I can't see Sookie adapting very well to life in Hot Shot..
These are all just my opinion and I've tried to show why I came up with this list.. ^_^
I like your list Leah. All great choices and was glad to see Eric at #1, lol.
Megan aka *Mheghan* wrote: "I like your list Leah. All great choices and was glad to see Eric at #1, lol. "Hahah thanks Megan! I think no matter what people say about him I think Eric deserves to be at the top..^_^
I totally agree, but most of the time other people criticize my choice in favor of Bill. I'm not a Bill fan at all, and it makes some people mad, lol.
really? I know lots of people that aren't fans of Bill.. lol
I think the fans Bill has are EXTREMELY loyal, lol. I am a devoted Eric girl so we tend to not see eye to eye. haha
hahahaI guess I can see that .. I'm also a devoted Eric girl.. my fiance only watches the show True Blood but he is on our side as well..
I think Bill is one cool customer. I don't need to appologize about it to a bunch of rabid Eric fans with Twilight metailities.
there is nothing wrong with liking Bill I just personally prefer other characters.. I never said meant in my comments to upset anyone.. I'm not looking for a confrontation.. everyone has a right to their own opinions after all
Cary wrote: " I think Bill is one cool customer. I don't need to appologize about it to a bunch of rabid Eric fans with Twilight metailities. "I don't think anyone is asking anyone else to apologize :) What is a "Twilight mentality" out of curiosity?
Fiona wrote: "Cary wrote: " I think Bill is one cool customer. I don't need to appologize about it to a bunch of rabid Eric fans with Twilight metailities. "I don't think anyone is asking anyone else to apolo..."
Yeah... if anything Bill reminds me more of Edward in twilight than Eric does...
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Some people can be so emotional about it though. It's all good! :)
Kathy wrote: "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Some people can be so emotional about it though. It's all good! :)"Exactly!
Leah wrote: "Kathy wrote: "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Some people can be so emotional about it though. It's all good! :)"Exactly!"
We all love the books! That's what matters!
You know you are a biblioholic when you debate over fictional characters from books
Very true.. and as long as you can be respectful of the fact that everyone has an opinion its fun .. after all we all go into reading the books with different life experiences that can alter how we interpret events and characters.. thats why I like sites like this.. ^_^
Here's mine:
1. Eric- sure there's the blood bond but they just seem to connect. She has an effect on him that he hasn't had for hundreds of years and she seems to prefer him but just doesn't want to admit it.
2. Bill- I loved him initially but think he REALLY mishandled the Lorena situation and it just went down hill from there. I feel bad for the poor guy but not enough to make him #1 but he still ranks #2 because I liked him at the beginning.
3. Alcide- he used to be #1 for me but after the stuff with Debbie and becoming pack master (yuck!) he's dropped quite a bit.
4. Hadley's x-husband- it could possibly be interesting, not sure.
5. Barry- if they're not related they could have some really telepathic kids together. lol
6. Quinn- I was never a Quinn fan, it just felt too forced. Maybe it was because he was brought in too late in the series? I don't know. Plus, I'm not a big fan of bald men.
7. Sam- I like him as a friend... but just that. They are too platonic and I'd be pretty upset if they ended up together. I think if she really had feelings for him something would've happened a long time together.
I think I got all the major ones, right?