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message 1951: by Kyra (new)

Kyra (Nikara) | 1221 comments M wrote: "I don’t mind plot as long as it doesn’t interfere with the story."

LOL! That seems like a good policy to have.


message 1952: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Christa, it sounds like a thinker's (in the Jungian use of a 'thinker') approach to writing a story, which comes down to trying to make a logical construct out of something that is essentially an intuitive one.

We are essentially a society fixated on logical constructs. The university English classes I took were fundamentally about trying to deconstruct writing to figure out what makes something great. And in the process they kill that greatness, and create in the process writing that is without life. Try reading any current literary criticism and you will understand the definition of lifeless writing.

In a loose way, the arrangement above reminds me of how our science tries to figure out what makes life: kill it, then take it apart, with the hope of being able to reconstruct the deconstructions like Frankenstein.

Alternatively, it reminds me of the neo-classical movement in the 17th century. It became fixated on a notion of Greek writing summarized into the so-called three unities and resulted in dead writing. (See, for example, Dryden's play All for Love, which is one of the most horrid highly praised pieces of dreck I have read.)

So, I would say, very loosely, that the idea is a crutch used by people trying to intellectualize the creative process. I see it as having limited value from a truly creative perspective, although it may work as a means to create formulaic and somewhat popular pop fiction.


message 1953: by Angie (new)

Angie Pangan | 4795 comments Hi everyone. I just wanted to say Happy Thanksgiving :)


message 1954: by Kymela (new)

Kymela (kymelatejasi) | 674 comments Ack. Why do I always leave things for the last minute? I'm stuck on a craft essay about villain motivations. I managed to include the Joker. XD


message 1955: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Quick announcement, guys. I may or may not be able to participate in next week’s contest because I’ll be on vacation with my family to Canada. I leave on Friday and return on Tuesday. The following Wednesday I have my volunteer job, so that just leaves Thursday to catch up on Z’s. I’m bringing my laptop with me to Canada, but that doesn’t necessarily guarantee anything since I won’t have my notes with me nor will I have the energy or time to get a story done. Thanks for understanding.


message 1956: by Ryan (new)

Ryan | 5334 comments No worries at all, Garrison. Have a magic trip and enjoy your break. Thanks for all your submissions over the past few weeks, you have definitely earned immunity. Enjoy, mate :)


message 1957: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Thanks, Ryan. You've always been a cool guy. :)


message 1958: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments I'm back, guys! Great to see you all again! I'm going to go read this week's stories and poems soon enough. :)


message 1959: by [deleted user] (new)

Welcome back Garrison! :)


message 1960: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Thanks, Leslie! It feels good to be home. :)


message 1961: by Ryan (new)

Ryan | 5334 comments Welcome back, Garrison. How was your trip?


message 1962: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments It was a good one, Ryan. I love Canada. :)


message 1963: by Ryan (new)

Ryan | 5334 comments I'd love to go for a visit. I had a friend who just returned, her photos were AMAZING!


message 1964: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Canada's an amazing place. You really should find some days off so you can visit there. Me and my family went to Victoria, British Columbia.


message 1965: by Caitlan (new)

Caitlan (lionesserampant) | 2869 comments Canada is sooooo gorgeous.


message 1966: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Clean water and pink skies: it doesn't get more gorgeous than that. :)


message 1967: by Ryan (new)

Ryan | 5334 comments It is a 20 hour flight for me...I may need to take a few more than a few days ;)


message 1968: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Are you British, Ryan? Just curious.


message 1969: by Ryan (new)

Ryan | 5334 comments Nope, Australian.


message 1970: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Yeah, that's a long way from Canada.


message 1971: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments I just thought of something. Since this group is very pirate oriented, we need an equally pirate oriented theme song. I've got just the thing: "Rhymin & Stealin" by The Beastie Boys.

"Pistol is loaded! I shot Betty Crocker! Delivered Colonel Saunders down to Davey Jones' locker!"


message 1972: by C. J., Cool yet firm like ice (new)

C. J. Scurria (goodreadscomcj_scurria) | 4483 comments Garrison wrote: "I just thought of something. Since this group is very pirate oriented, we need an equally pirate oriented theme song. I've got just the thing: "Rhymin & Stealin" by The Beastie Boys.

"Pistol is l..."


Or how about "Ooooooh... who lives in a pineapple under the sea?" Just kidding. ;)


message 1973: by [deleted user] (new)

Spongebob Squarepants! :P

I'm not familiar with the song Garrison, I'll look that up, sorry :)

I'm glad you had a wonderful time. I haven't been to Canada, hopefully, one day.

Hi CJ!


message 1974: by C. J., Cool yet firm like ice (new)

C. J. Scurria (goodreadscomcj_scurria) | 4483 comments Hi Leslie! How are you doing?


message 1975: by [deleted user] (new)

I'm good, trying to keep up with work :D And you?


message 1976: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments I like Spongebob's pet snail Gary. He's so cute! ^_^


message 1977: by C. J., Cool yet firm like ice (new)

C. J. Scurria (goodreadscomcj_scurria) | 4483 comments Leslie wrote: "I'm good, trying to keep up with work :D And you?"

I need to start looking for work to keep busy. Though this church program for Christmas is exciting and is good at keeping me occupied.


message 1978: by [deleted user] (new)

What's the church program for Christmas?


message 1979: by C. J., Cool yet firm like ice (new)

C. J. Scurria (goodreadscomcj_scurria) | 4483 comments It's about the church looking like Bethlehem and telling the Christmas story. It is so exciting! Though it will be the last year it will be done in this way, I hope many will check it out!


message 1980: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Good luck with your Christmas project, CJ! :)


message 1981: by alessia (new)

alessia (classick) *my head pops up at the door* Is this full already? Any free seats?


message 1982: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Come on in! :)


message 1983: by alessia (new)

alessia (classick) Garrison wrote: "Come on in! :)"

*waves a little* Hello, Garrison. :) *tip toes over*


message 1984: by georgiabread (new)

georgiabread My my my what a delicioso cookie! I think I might have another or two....or 10000000000000000000000000000000000000


message 1985: by georgiabread (new)

georgiabread My my my what a delicioso cookie! I think I might have another or two....or 10000000000000000000000000000000000000


message 1986: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Hi, Alessia! Nice to meet you! :)


message 1987: by alessia (new)

alessia (classick) Garrison wrote: "Hi, Alessia! Nice to meet you! :)"

It's nice to meet you, too! ;) So-*grabs a cookies and nibbles into it*-I've been wanting to ask this question for a long time. What's a poem? Is it just a text that rhymes?


message 1988: by alessia (new)

alessia (classick) An elephant's faithful 100% (GAB) wrote: "My my my what a delicioso cookie! I think I might have another or two....or 10000000000000000000000000000000000000"

*smiles* Whoah, take it slow, you might choke.



And leave one for me...if you haven't finished them all already. :P


message 1989: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Not all poems have to rhyme, but they do have to conform to some kind of rhythm or pattern that proses normally don't.


message 1990: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments [Smiles, chomps down two of the vanilla shortbread cookies he made the other day. Offers two to Alessia.] Tea? I have green sencha, organic. Or gingia assam.

Hello, my name is Guy. I am ambivalently known by some in the WSS as the madman.

Poem?
A poem, by any other name would smell as sweet. [Thinks. Shakes head.] That can't be right. Write? What I might mean is that a poem by any other write would be a wrong. Hmmm. Could be a wrong. And since two wrongs make a write, two up-right poems would likely still not be a poem unless the poetry legislators were to say otherwise.

[Sips tea. Masticates cookie. Gets distracted, wanders off. Comes back with a tipple of scotch.] What is a poem? [Laughs.] Yes. A question that has stumped the humanoids of the world since the beginnings of language. But here, within the upper bowels above the poop deck of the humble ship the WSS, it will be answered. [Smiles.] Snot. Snot likely.

[Scratches head.] Of course, across time, Shakespeare has been dismissed for being a bad writer. So, what is a poem, then, if the educated and 'proper' adjudicators of 'good' writing can, in their time, dismiss the greatest writer of English? [Laughs.] Intuitively it can inferred from that that a poem is simply words that convey meaning. [Pauses.] Really? Nah! Can't be. And when was the last time anything dismissed as being 'simple' was actually simple? A fool's tail's chase, lost chasing chaste tales?

[Chews on cookie. Sips more scotch. Wanders off to get the bottle. He sets it beside himself and the mouse. He looks at the mouse.] I know you are tempted, but alcohol will kill you. Mice don't handle booze well. One person's meaning is another person's nonsense. But then, if .... [Pauses.] Hmmm. I think it is time to get drunk. I think I have concluded that a poem is a collection of words that convey meaningless meaning. Or is that meaningful meaninglessness. OMG! And not once did my verbiage have any hint of rhyme or reason.

[Walks to his car.] I know! I'll drive to the US Border. I am sure that once I get there I will with ease and grace be able to procure the gun that will be able to poetically put myself out of the misery of poetical meanderings on the uselessness of delineating what comprises a poem. [But before he got there he was pulled over for being driven under the influence of bad poetry. He spends the night in a drunk tank. In the morning, hung over and oblivious to how he came to be jailed and stinking, he felt compelled by forces unknown to write on the wall:
A wall of wailers willing to wait while whittling wooden whistles
won't whistle stop the sot whetting his whistle with whiskey jacks
painted on white wine bottles whining all the while they wander with wonder
within the world of what words are worthy to be wound into a worthwhile verse.
[Guy the Madman throws up in the corner. He rubs the acrid puke from his mouth and facial hairs with an ease belying a lot of practice.] Yes. That was poetry in motion. [He sits in the corner, and falls asleep, only to dream fitfully of famous actresses telling him he indeed has had his way with words, but all of whom opt to kiss Ron Perlman instead of the dreaming madman.]


message 1991: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments I don't think I can come up with a response funnier than that prose, Guy. Hehe!


message 1992: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Thank you. What is a poem? Indeed, easier to determine the meaning of life.


message 1993: by Ryan (new)

Ryan | 5334 comments Merry Christmas to you all, crazy pirates :)


message 1994: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Merry Christmas, Ryan! And a happy 2014! :)


message 1995: by Guy (new)

Guy (egajd) | 11249 comments Thank you Al and Garrison and Ryan. And a Merry New Year and Happy Christmas to all. And to all a bountiful night.


message 1996: by C. J., Cool yet firm like ice (new)

C. J. Scurria (goodreadscomcj_scurria) | 4483 comments Yes Merry Christmas to all! It arrived so quickly it's crazy. And Happy New Year!


message 1997: by Garrison (new)

Garrison Kelly (cybador) | 10136 comments Since we're all in the Christmas spirit, I thought I'd share a nice, Christmasy video with you all! Wait a minute, is Christmasy even a word? Anyway, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPRZ7b...


message 1998: by C. J., Cool yet firm like ice (new)

C. J. Scurria (goodreadscomcj_scurria) | 4483 comments Well I know of a funny video on Youtube. If you can excuse a "let's play" type of vid look up Markiplier and "Very Organized Santa" and I will probably stop talking about Markiplier now... :D


message 1999: by Caitlan (new)

Caitlan (lionesserampant) | 2869 comments Heeeeeey, Markiplier! :D Alex is in love with him. *giggle*


message 2000: by C. J., Cool yet firm like ice (new)

C. J. Scurria (goodreadscomcj_scurria) | 4483 comments Hey guys! I'm surprised no one said it officially on here yet. Happy New Year 2014! :D


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