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Hinduism and Buddhism
India is the hearth of two of the world’s major religions. Many of fundamentals of Hinduism and Buddhism are similar and there is belief that Buddhism is and offshoot of Hinduism. Although Buddhism was in fact based on Hinduism, the Four Noble Truths and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism establishes a different philosophy than Hinduism’s Sanatana Dharma Gita, but perhaps the idea was for reform. Hinduism has persisted because of its class system and Buddhism has lived on through its appeal.
Hinduism is the world’s oldest religion still practiced today. It has no single founder; it was used by the Aryan invaders to help them rule the native Indian peoples, but its actual origins are still unknown. The Aryans separated themselves and their conquered peoples into five different classes and forbid marriages between those classes. With no hope of rising through the classes in the present life, the concept of reincarnation was developed to keep the classes in line. You could rise to a higher class in the next life based on the deeds of this life, but you could also reincarnate into a lower class, so this may have prevented many riots and assassinations of nobles by lower class people.
The founder of Buddhism, Siddhartha Gautama, was born a Hindu in the Kshatriya class in the sixth century B.C., but decided that it did not explain the world and suffering well enough for him. He is said to have found enlightenment under a tree and eventually founded a new religion based on his old one. The appeal of Buddhism was the destruction of the class system. Siddhartha taught, in his Eightfold Path, that anyone could achieve enlightenment in the next life, whether they were of the Brahmin class or even an untouchable. He did not believe that any one class was any nearer to it than another.
Hinduism appealed to the Aryan classes because if its rigidity and prevention of racial mixing, while Buddhism appealed to the lower native classes as it destroyed this concept. Hinduism spread through the upper classes because it kept them in power.

I think that this has some 'mechanical' truths, but to a large extent misses the mark. What I mean is that you have written this as if the development and acceptance of these religions was based completely on power and manipulation. These elements can be easily seen to be present on hindsight, but do not explain their acceptance on an emotional, psychological or spiritual level. The question left open by your history is how or what allowed the majority to accept these truths: was that acceptance strictly because the powerful were charismatic and 'powerful' or because the majority found life more easy to endure with the acceptance of those 'truths'?
In a way, I suggest that a comparable argument would be to say that the reason Christianity is popular is because it justified the development of a class system based on the acquisition of wealth. On hindsight it is easy to make that argument, which has been made be people such as Max Weber, but it misses much. It misses, for example, that one of the very early appeals of Christianity was Christ's castigation of wealth and of sexual inequality. So what made Christianity popular?
These same kinds of arguments can be made against your arguments. A question to ask would be what discontent within the society, at the societal as well as personal level, did these religions ameliorate in the psyche and/or physical well being of their converts?
For example, the development of Buddhism followed an extremely violant and war filled time in India and China. Christianity the same in the Mediterranean basis. So is the movement towards introspective philosophies a psychological reaction against nearly 1000 years of extroverted bloodshed and tyranny? Probably no way to answer this, but I find this kind of question allows the mind to be free to question the validity of a history that is told primarily by the rich and powerful, comprised almost entirely of males who are almost completely subsumed in a western-style intellect that is obsessively ratio-centric and largely misogynist in their patterns of discourse and thought.
Your paper would be more interesting to me if you linked it to the familiar philosophy most common in our part of the world, which is a the Judaeo-Christian ethic. There are surprising common elements between both.
Sorry I missed being able to comment earlier. And thanks for sharing and asking for feed back. This kind of thing gets the grey matter movie. And I suspect your paper will get better than the 70 you were anticipating.


I'll pass on reading it, if that's okay. I'm already not keeping up with my reading elsewhere.


Unless you are M, Guy, Al, Stephanie, Paula, Ryan and all those other people on here.
I think I should be given special permission by the Capn't to have the weeks topic two weeks in advanced. The reason is thus. I will asked very politely.

One thing to think about with the WSS's short time frames is that it forces one to not over think a story and to write from the spontaneous places in our heart, imagination and head. And there is nothing stopping any of us from taking our creations and expanding them outside the WSS, for them to become the seeds of longer stories, novellas or even novels.
But again, this isn't my call. But I loved how you asked, and really do appreciate and understand why the request. Right now I'm so busy with life I haven't even been writing poems within the week, let alone stories. That's just the nature of this particular competition.

Sara: (snorting) Seriously? That's your excuse?
Kyra: (defensively) It's not that I'm not writing at all. It's just that I haven't written quite as much as I would like.
Nikara: Still. Life goes on, Kyra. The world will not allow you the extra time of day to sit and write... You need to work in your writing around your current schedule, if that's what you want to do.
Sara: Spoken like a true... Well, spoken truly like Nikki. It's your fault, Kyra.
Kyra: (rubbing her eyes) I need new imaginary friends...


"That people have joined the group who are good at writing is a peculiarity of it."-M
Haha,a writing group that actually has good writers in it. Strange indeed.

And I hope you don't mind, but I will offer a suggestion: relax your effort. This group probably doesn't know it, but it is very 'Zennish' in its approach because it 'forces' one to be spontaneous, which means to be alive in this moment. So, relax into the moment and 'let' the words express. It is one of the WSS's greatest strengths and may offer a reason why there is some very great writing here.

Christa, trust me when I say, we don't even know what the topics are 2 weeks in advanced.


Thanks Stephanie, nice to know so much thought and effort goes into choosing the topic ;D


And I wasn't really asking fro the contests to be longer, just to know the topic before the contest was open. So the contest would still only be a week long, but you had two weeks to think about it. It is all very confusing and only goes to show how poor a captain I would be. Makes you rather appreciate even more the one we've got 'eh?





Lol

And you are right Zack, seeing what people come up with in a week is so interesting. I wouldn't want anyone else to have advanced warning. (Yes I am aware I am selfish :D)

Your writing is not terrible or bad, Alex.
Oh yeah and Christa, from my experience if you think the writing is bad usually people most of the time will tend to like it. The writer is sometimes the worst critic to their own writings.

Oh, yeah, definitely. I think the absolute hardest part of writing is agonizing over a bit you know could be better - and that every one else loves.
Saira, give me about a thousand words and I'll get back to you in a week at the latest. Just not essays.


Heh, funny, Zack. Although, Ed is my dad; I prefer Edward.

I love our Starbucks; odd old men sitting alone with an open folder, businessmen clearly doing interviews, random college students, cops, and, of course, the resident novelist. It's awesome.


Was still fun though, eggsalad for days.



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Mouse #1: (Looks up from a piece of Trail Mix he’s been nibbling.) What play was that, Earl?
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