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Oct 14, 2009 04:24PM

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I know, right? So I've basically gotten to the point where I don't care where things are shelved in stores anymore. I get to see everything as it's received so I normally find what I want anyway. Plus I keep an up-to-date wishlist on here too so I know which books I'm looking for and when they come out.
I can understand though how for the average shopper all of this can be really frustrating. But then you get the people that love to complain to me about all of this even though it's out of my hands. You don't know how often I hear, "why is this book in romance/mystery/scifi/etc.? I wouldn't put it there." Yeah, neither would I but I don't get a choice. Open up your own bookstore and shelve the books how you want if it bothers you so much! ::grumble grumble::

UF can carry on a relationship or plotline through several books, etc. T..."
When I picked up Halfway to the Grave from the library it had a big green sticker that said HORROR. I was like uuuuuuuu...really? I guess if you consider hot vampires having dirty hot sex a horror, then okay. Oh and of course the riveting story line...***shivering with fear***

I know, right? So I've basically gotten to the point where I don't care where things are shelved in stores anymore. I get to see everything as it's rec..."
LMAO--and I don't write that often :)

: ) I aim to please. But man, I could go on and on about the store and the crazy customers we get. Something strange happens every shift it seems. And our regulars are the worst. There's this one guy that comes in and sits and reads for hours ... with his shoes off.

: ) I aim to please. But man, I could go on and on about the store and the crazy customers we get. Something strange happens every shift it se..."
okay...gross.

: ) I aim to please. But man, I could go on and on about the store and the crazy customers we get. Something strange happens e..."
Yup. And he's in probably 3 to 4 nights a week.

: ) I aim to please. But man, I could go on and on about the store and the crazy customers we get. Something st..."
Once, i was waiting in an office for a sales call and the man sitting next to me took his flip flops off and started picking his toenails--I really thought I was gonna lose it.

But you know, the shelving in independent bookstores tends to be worse. o.o You have to go in there with a purpose. No browsing, soldier, LOL.

I haven't, but I just checked them out on GR, and they do look cool. I like it much better than the originals with the color washing out everything, LOL. I like the covers with the prone women on them too. :D



But as far as the bookstores go, since it seems that every store is different, I would almost rather that everything just be shelved alphabetically by author. At least I would know if a store actually had it or if I just overlooked it. I miss those little computers that some of the stores had I used to go in and type what I was looking for and it would just tell me what section it was under. I's settle for all the books of an author to be in one section. Like Jennifer Crusie is under both fiction and romance (and sometimes the same book is in both places.) And Richelle Mead was in both fiction and fantasy. It's been nice lately because of halloween and true blood and twilight there is a special shelf set up in almost all the bookstores I've been called Paranormal Specials or something like that and it's had good stuff on it like Lynday Sands and Katie MacAllister.

The JR Ward series on the other hand is a perfect example of what constitutes PNR to me: an overarching storyline with each book containing the relationship arc of a set of characters.

HEHEHEHEHE! Maybe someone thought Bones' dirty talk to Cat in book 1 was horror. I know I didn't!

I know what you mean, but I still find them to lean heavily on urban fantasy. Christine Feehan's Carpathian books are what springs to mind for PNR, for me. Plus many others ;)
I've only read the first Anita Blake book (and hated it), but from all that I've heard I wouldn't consider the series to be PNR at all. There was no romance in the first book at all, and everyone seems to agree that the rest of the series is just about sex, not romance. So I'm perplexed?

Ward is definitely PNR, imo. Each book has to have a couple that has a HEA ending in their book, no matter the setting or the larger story arc that winds through the book. This is probably why she did what she did with Jane. If Ward's books were UF, then Jane would've died and stayed dead.
Anita Blake, otoh, I agree wholeheartedly is not PNR. Romance genre purists who can argue for days over what consitutes a "real" romance would probably agree as well. I think that the Anita Blkae series gets co-opted because so many romance readers read her stuff and got invested in the Anita/Jean-Claude/Richard triangle. And her stuff really is an influence on darker paranormals. So I think she gets closely associated with romance. In my area, no matter what bookstore I go in, she's always in the Horror section. Never in romance.

Oh I agree, I just mean that as the series progressed, the books became more obviously urban fantasy though still with the romance thread. The romance/sex side of things seemed to decrease - haven't read the most recent yet though.
It seems that a book is categorised under the romance genre and sub-genres, like PNR, when there is a clear expectation of sex and romance (the Happily Ever After ending isn't always there in the series, but that I think is poor categorisation!); whereas in urban fantasy there can be sex and romance and a HEA ending, but there's no requirement or default expectation for it. That's pretty much how I separate those two in my head :)
Anita Blake is in the horror section at Chapters too. I don't think there's anything romantic about her!


LOL

And I find UF sex hotter because I get tired of all the yearning and longing language that seems more prevalent in PNR.

No, I mean that getting a book from the Romance section leads to an expectation that there will be sex, whereas any other genre it's not a pre-requisite. Sex doesn't make a book a Romance novel! But any contemporary Romance novel will have it.
Michelle M. wrote: "Shannon, I've been to so many B&Ns here in NY and all the UF books are in scifi/fantasy, with the exception of Jeaniene Frost. I usually find hers in the romance area, but on a side table, oddly en..."
I would expect to find UF books in the fantasy section, but it bugs me when they get labelled Romance instead! Ah well.
And I find UF sex hotter because I get tired of all the yearning and longing language that seems more prevalent in PNR.
Oh yes, the yearning and longing wears thin doesn't it? I especially hate the hero's oh-so-stoic "I WILL resist her because ... because ... I just will! I must!! Oh her skin - but I will resist!!" *yawn*

LOL
Exaaaaaccctttlllyyyyy.

LOL. We're talking at cross-purposes. I meant that a lot of people consider PNR and other series because there's a strong romance or just a lot of sex as the case may be. That a romance does not make.
@Michelle: LOL. Hm, yes, there are probably some of those. Actually, that sounds more like a lot of the historical romances that I've read! xD I tend to avoid those kinds of PNR because that's kind of a weak conflict. I like a more compelling problem.

Definitely! I've read way too many PNR books that have the yearning-in-denial hero; it's actually put me off and I'm on a bit of a hiatus lately. It's such a boring cliche!
Maybe you could tell me your secret for avoiding them, because I don't know how you tell before you start reading it! (Granted, some of them have been ARCs which I read out of a sense of obligation, but still...)


I just started



I just started [bookcover:Dreams Unde..."
I really like Charles de Lint. I've read about three or four of his non-Newford books. My favorite being the one he just released - <1> The Mystery of Grace
I'm going to start on Newford in another year I think. I own the first two collections but I want to spend some time on them and not feel rushed.

How was that one?"
That was actually really good. It..."
So I loved Soulless so much, I finished it today and just ran over to my co-worker's desk and thrust it at her and said "read this"!
So now I've got someone else to read it...they don't call me the Book Pusher for anything :)


Good question. LOL. Well, it's not a surefire recipe, but honestly, I find that a lot of writers who tend to rely on the hero's insecurity aka Big Misunderstanding route also have a very florid, traditional or generic writing style. So it doesn't take more than an opening excerpt usually. Maybe take a look at edgier works as, chances are, they won't be writing traditionally. "Ooooh, I'm just not good enough for you, Nancy." LOL. Talk about wish fulfillment. ;)

Speaking of pushers... LOL. I'm reading Thorn Queen because of you, ma'am! Are those the kind of scenes you were talking about? Because while I like the tension between Dorian and Eugenie, I have to say, PNR's much more explicit. *sleazy grin* I'll give you an example. The scenes in TQ remind me of those in Midnight's Master because brief encounters are scattered throughout instead of a culminating act, etc. But Eden's scenes are spicier. Normally, I would say that Mead's writing Kiyo's scenes a little tamely deliberately so that there's more of a contrast and anticipation for wicked Dorian when he finally ends up with Eugenie, but-- she wrote her scenes that way in her Succubus series too. Bare bones. Not that I'm trying to sideline this into another TQ thread, mind you, LOL. xD

I was thinking more along the lines of Karen Chance's sex scenes and of course Frost's now famous fangs and lube. Maybe my preference is because UF tends to use more direct phrasing instead of throwing around the words "blossoming core" and such nonsense!

Sometimes they take us readers for granted. You can just write anything and call it good!













Im currently reading 'One Foot in the Grave' by Jeaniene Frost.I found the series on various lists of my other fave authors (Kenyon, Moning & Ward), so while waiting for their next novels, i thought i'd take up another series to follow & since most of the reviews were 5 stars (i usually just look at the star rating rather than read the reviews due to some spoilers), I thought id give it a shot.
Well, the reviews were right, and now im hooked! :)
I was a bit surprised at the ending of 'Halfway', but so far, im truly liking the story!
...and Bones is wow.

I was a little worried, because I really hated Pride and Prejudice and Zombies when I attempted to read that a couple months ago, but this book has a much different feel.
I'm really enjoying it so far. The author's doing a good job of keeping in the style of Austen. They haven't revealed Darcy as a vampyre yet. Though, I'm only 100 pages in :)


Hmm, this feels like withdrawal and PMS mixed together. Also this obsession with True Blood is sickening me - really, fangs out of their eye teeth?!

As to books, I've been fortunate to read two good books in a row. (I think I might win the lotto next.) And I would definitely recommend them to you, Gems. Especially Richelle Mead's Dark Swan series. It really picks up with the second book. The heroine is very down to earth and funny and not self-important or all-powerful in the least. In fact, she has a lot of potential that she has to realize. The heroes are to die for.
And the Children of the Sea series by Virginia Kantra is so mystical and romantic. She really gets into the spirit of the selkie legends. They get better with each book. The best one is the third one with a noble, ruthless sea king. *fans self* Wish he would whisk *me* away, LOL!

But seriously, eyeteeth? Even my mother who hates all that stuff pointed to the TV and said they were in the wrong place, looking to me for some kind of reason. All I could do was just shrug. How do you explain that? If a vampire came at me with those teeth, I'd probably bust a gut laughing. And I liked Anna Pacquin so much.
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