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Angela's Shelf-A-Thon Challenge
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Shelf-a-Thon Round 3
I'm in... Ways to change it up.... I don't know... I'll think about it and get back to you!
I want to do it! I was doing the last one until I lost my excel file halfway through the challenge and I was NOT going to go back and spend hours redoing my shelves, LOL!
I would like to try round 3, I had to bow out of round one due to work, and didn't do number 2 for the same reason. Now that I'm finally caught up with things, I am reading again! I agree with the most touched shelves concepts - perhaps it could be a side goal, such as trying to touch 5 different shelves 10 or 15 times or something like that.
Count me in. I think keeping track of the most touched shelves is interesting and would be a way to change it up a little.
I'm in. I also like the idea of how many times you touch a shelf.
I might do it again. I like the reporting of how many times you hit a shelf. Another thing I thought of, in the original, if you didn't want to read a shelf at all, you could read an extra group read to make up for it. How about, for every book you read that is over say 450 pages, you get to check off one extra shelf of your choice? Or some page level that we agree on.
OOh - Heres another one. How about another side goal to see what book you have that touches the most shelves.
Oh, that's a good one! Good idea! I have one this time that hit 74 shelves!
Nice, I like all these ideas!I have an idea, but it might violate the spirit of the challenge. Feel free to shoot me down, I can take it.
I've been wishing the challenge were a bit more collaborative. It would be fun to have discussions & recommendations thread. Here's an example: I could post that I'm desperate to get these shelves: glbt, graphic-novel, queer, nonfiction, etc. Someone might then respond that Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic would fit most of those shelves.
I've been highly amused at some of the shelf combinations for a single book and would love to discuss/suggest them. Of course, this would break the competition & secrecy aspect of the challenge. OTOH, as it stands now, you could just go to my profile page if you were curious.
I would be okay with Cindy's suggestion. It makes it less of a competition, and more of a personal challenge, which is alright with me. What say the rest of you?
For me, it's pretty much already a personal challenge. I don't look at the leaderboard and go, "Oh crap! So-and-so is beating me!" For me, it's more like, "Hmmm... I really should branch out to different genres and stop reading books that only hit the young-adult and romance shelves..." We could make the discussion a separate thread so that people who like the secrecy could keep it that way... I don't know if they would feel like we were cheating... Though it's not like there's a cash prize or something...
Oh, and recommendations for how to hit the "erotica" shelf without actually having to read erotica... that'd be helpful... :) I finally hit it on accident...
Totally agree with you guys about this being more of a personal challenge. I was surprised how fast this turned into a personal challenge. I think as a group we must read at very, very different speeds. There isn't much chance for me to ever compete with those top spots!Oooh, and if we collaborate, someone who is really into, say, sci-fi or romance might be able to give suggestions to people who don't normally read that genre. It's been fascinating branching out from my usual fare, but I frequently feel like I'm randomly flailing around.
My sentiments exactly Sara - a separate discussion for those of us who are just trying to "hit the shelves", not beat anyone. Great suggestion Cindy. As to how to report, in another group we had a challenge where people had to pick a book off of a shelf based on the last book they read. Anyway, the important thing is, each participant set up a log where we reported was the Title, Author, shelf, and our star rating for each book we read. That way people could look at our log and try to decide whether they wanted to read the book or not.
Sara - I have been avoiding that shelf for a few times!!
I'd like to play again this time. I fizzled out on the last couple of rounds, but I've always thought this is a fun challenge. I'm with Sara in that it's more of a personal challenge for me -- I just like to see how many shelves I can hit and if I can branch out a little with what I'm reading, so any changes to the rules work for me.
Lyn M wrote: "Sara - I have been avoiding that shelf for a few times!!"Exactly! I mean, I love tamer romance novels, but I'm NOT going to read erotica... that's just a bit too much for me.
I think the idea of a another thread to list books that hit certain shelves is a great idea, especially those who would like to see if they hit one accidentally. I personally do not try to find books just to hit shelves and love when I do hit a hard one. I also think that we can find a way to knock off certain shelves that we know as readers (for me graphic books) are not going to hit unless on accident. Maybe for every shelf you hit 10 times, you knock off a shelf of your choice, but once you cross it off, you can't change your mind later if you do hit it. Therefore, this shelf is off limits for additonal hits. Does that make sense?
It makes sense to me, Angela. I actually have three shelves this time around that I have hit with EVERY book I've read. So that means I would be able to cross of three additional shelves.
I will post rules when I get more feedback and hopefully more participants! :) NEW SHELVES!!
ADDED:2010, don-t-own, e-book, m-m, unfiled, books-we-own, read-in-2010, gay, to-purchase, we-own, my-personal-library, not-available-yet, couldn-t-finish, non-fic, personal-collection, a-great-list-of-top-books-to-read, coming-of-age, and amazon-wishlist, love
GONE:western, 2008-read, to-read-one-day, read-as-a-kid, teaching, fantasy-science-fiction, france, literary, japanese, literature-fiction, nancy-pearl-s-book-lust, haveread, status-holding, childhood-reads, to-read-nonfiction, tbr, get-to-read, sff
So if you are wondering if you did not get any of the above mentioned, probably because they are not ranking high!
2000s
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
-
2008-books
2008-reads
2009-books
2009-read
2009-reads
20th-century
abandoned
academic
action
action-adventure
adult
adult-books
adult-fiction
adult-non-fiction
adventure
africa
all
all-time-favorites
alreadyread
already-read
amazon-wishlist
american
american-history
animals
anthology
anthologies
anthropology
a-great-list-of-top-books-to-read
architecture
art
audio
audiobook
audio-book
audiobooks
audio-books
autobiography
biography
biography-memoir
biographies
books
bookclub
book-club
bookcrossing
bookcrossing-com
bookshelf
books-i-own
books-i-own-to-read
books-i-want
books-owned
books-read-in-2009
books-sent-on
books-to-buy
books-to-check-out
books-we-own
borrowed
british
business
chick-lit
chicklit
childhood
childhood-books
childhood-favorites
children
children-books
children-young-adult
childrens
childrensbooks
childrens-books
childrens-fiction
childrens-lit
childrens-picture-books
childrens-ya
children-s
children-s-books
children-s-lit
children-s-literature
christian
christian-fiction
christianity
classic
classics
collection
college
comedy
comic
comics
comic-books
coming-of-age
contemporary
contemporary-fiction
contemporary-romance
cookbooks
cooking
couldn-t-finish
crafts
crime
crime-fiction
criticism
culture
currently-own
design
did-not-finish
didn-t-finish
don-t-own
do-not-own
drama
e-book
ebook
e-books
ebooks
economics
education
england
english
erotica
essays
family
fantasy
fantasy-scifi
fantasy-sci-fi
fantasy-sf
faves
favorite
favorites
favorite-authors
favorite-books
favourites
feminism
fiction
film
finished
fluff
food
for-school
french
friendship
fun
funny
gay
general
general-fiction
german
glbt
graphic
graphic-novel
graphicnovels
graphic-novels
guilty-pleasures
harlequin
have
have-read
health
high-school
historical
historicalfiction
historical-fiction
historical-romance
history
home-library
horror
how-to
humor
humour
indonesian
in-english
in-my-collection
in-my-library
inspirational
i-own
i-own-it
i-own-this
japan
juvenile
juvenile-fiction
keepers
kid-books
kids
kids-books
kindle
language
library
library-book
library-books
listened-to
lit
literary-fiction
literature
love
magic
manga
manga-manhwa
maybe
memoir
memoirs
military
mine
misc
modern-fiction
m-m
music
my-books
my-favorites
my-library
my-personal-library
mysteries
mystery
mystery-suspense
mystery-thriller
mythology
nature
need-to-buy
need-to-get
never-finished
non-fic
non-fiction
nonfiction
not-available-yet
not-owned
novel
novels
on-hold
on-my-bookshelf
on-my-shelf
other
own
own-but-not-read
own-it
own-to-read
owned
paperback
paranormal
paranormal-romance
parenting
partially-read
personal-collection
personal-library
philosophy
photography
picture-book
picture-books
picturebooks
plays
poetry
political
politics
psychology
queer
read-2007
read-in-2007
read-2008
read-in-2008
read-2009
read-in-2009
read-in-2010
read-for-school
read-more-than-once
realistic-fiction
recently-read
recommended
reference
relationships
religion
religious
reread
re-read
research
reviewed
romance
romance-erotica-pnr-to-read
school
school-books
science
science-fiction
sciencefiction
science-fiction-fantasy
sci-fi
scifi
sci-fi-and-fantasy
sci-fi-fantasy
scifi-fantasy
scpl
self-help
series
sf
sf-fantasy
short-stories
speculative-fiction
spiritual
spirituality
sports
sociology
stories
supernatural
suspense
teen
teen-books
teen-fiction
textbooks
theology
theory
thriller
thrillers
to-buy
to-get
to-purchase
to-read-fiction
to-read-interloan-my
to-read-interloan-sd
to-read-own
to-re-read
to-reread
traded
travel
trt-reviews
unfiled
unfinished
unread
unsorted
urban-fantasy
vampires
want
want-to-own
want-to-read
war
warehouse
we-own
wishlist
wish-list
writing
women
ya
ya-books
ya-fiction
ya-lit
youngadult
young-adult
young-adult-books
young-adult-fiction
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Angela wrote: "Maybe for every shelf you hit 10 times, you knock off a shelf of your choice, but once you cross it off, you can't change your mind later if you do hit it. Therefore, this shelf is off limits for additonal hits. Does that make sense?"That's a cool idea. But just as a warning... During this challenge, there are 49 books I've hit 10 or more times... so that might start getting a little crazy...
m-m?? That's gonna be fun...
Sara do you think we should do a book that someone has read that has a lot of pages as Lyn suggested instead...might be more difficult. Maybe any book with 400-450 pages??
Sara - That's just cuz you read too many books, lol. I could go either way, the shelves hit a lot, or the size of the book. P.S. Currently updating the spreadsheet if anyone wants it.
I'm definitely not OPPOSED to the hitting-a-book-10-times idea, but for those of us who read quite a lot, it might get a little... crazy... If it were over 20 hits, I'd only have 11 shelves, but that might be more books than some people read the whole challenge, so...On the other hand I, personally, don't read TOO many books over about 350 or 375 pages, so I think 400 would be a good cutoff. If we wanted even MORE incentive, we could have, say 3 tiers... like:
* Over 400 pages - Mark off 1 extra shelf of your choice
* Over 700 pages - Mark off 2 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 1000 pages - Mark off 3 extra shelves of your choice
I REALLY don't read many books that are THAT long, although I went through the Inkheart series LAST shelf challenge, but for those of you who DO read super-long books, who can't get through as many as those of us reading 150-page YA books... *looks around innocently* ... that might start the level the playing field after a while.
Lyn M wrote: "Sara - That's just cuz you read too many books, lol."Psshhh... There's no such thing! ;)
True, true. Never too many books.
I like the tier idea as well!! Maybe we can find a way to include both in the challenge. (the shelves thing and the book thing)...
At least updating the spreadsheet should be easier since I kept track of the shelves that were added and taken away. Thanks for doing this Lyn!
It is done, I think. BTW - I like Sara's tier idea, also.
I'm in...I'll get back if I can think of any other ideas.
Lyn M wrote: "It is done, I think. BTW - I like Sara's tier idea, also. "
Lyn, can you send me the spreadsheet? jennybee618@hotmail.com
Thanks!
can i get the spreadsheet too? arcanepenguin@yahoo.comThanks Lyn!
I'm in, and Lyn, I'd like a spreadsheet too, please. childresskl@gmail.com Thanks!
I just sent the spreadsheets, but Liz - I tried yours three times, but it said that it could not deliver it because Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 554 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (arcanepenguin@yahoo.com) [-5:] - mta1092.mail.sk1.yahoo.com (state 18).
This challenge sounds like fun. I would love to play too. Could someone please send me a spreadsheet?Thanks
Lynda - Just sent you the spreadsheets. Let me know if you need help figuring them out.
thanks for trying lyn - interesting I can log in at that address but can't get mail - can you try punkpenguin53@yahoo.com?
Just sent it and it looks like that one worked.
Thanks Lyn, it did work. Does anyone know when we are starting?
I think I need a little more instruction but I don't want to hold up the thread - could someone just point me to the original post maybe? It sounds very interesting (and challenging) since I tend to keep to the same shelves most of the time.
^Here is the original thread.-
I want in too. :D I need something to motivate me into reading more than usual this spring.
Object of the Game: To have read off the most shelves from the official list below. Start: February 1, 2010
*Any book that you finish after this date can be used for this challenge.
End: April 30, 2010
1. To have read a book off a shelf, you must read a book that is found on that particular shelf. ie. to have read book off the classics shelf, you must read a book that is found on "classics" shelf within the first five pages.
Here is how you find the pages:
-Find the book you just read and click on it so you get to the orginal page. For example: Grapes of Wrath http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43...
-After you get to this page, look all the way to the right hand side and find Popular Shelves, click on more shelves and you should get to this page: http://www.goodreads.com/book/shelves...
and cross off the shelves you 'touched' on the first 5 pages.
2. A single book may be found on several shelves however we will only count the first 5 pages of top shelves for this book. For example, you may find a book that has 148+ pages of shelves (such as Grapes of Wrath), but only count the first 5 pages.
3. You don’t have to read off the shelves in any particular order of shelves.
4. The name of shelves must MATCH EXACTLY to the shelf you are trying to count. No deviations are acceptable (check the spelling off the official list below). For example one shelf reads: 2008-books and another 2008-book or childrens or children-s.
5. It is permissible to read a book that is found on a shelf you've already counted. I may read 10 books that include the shelf "books-i-own". After you have found this shelf once, continue to check off the same shelf, but do not count it as an additonal shelf. At the end of the round, report the shelf you hit the most.
6. Reporting
All we want you to report on the thread is the number of books you've read and the number of shelves these books are found on. Do not report titles because that will give your competitors a strategic edge. I will be creating a another thread where people can post questions on where to find a shelf. So if someone is looking specifically for economics, they can ask other players where they found that shelf. Some of us would like to keep this a secret, as it may give the competitors who are trying to get the most shelves more of an advantage.
For example:
52 shelves
2 books
b. You must track the titles read and the shelves on your own. You can come up with your own method of tracking. I personally print the list and highlight the shelves I have hit, but Lyn had made a excel spreadsheet, which she will email you if requested.
7.NEW TWIST
If you read a book with a certain amount of pages, you can cross off a shelf you are finding difficult to hit. If you cross off a shelf and later hit it, you cannot change your original shelf. You must choose another shelf to cross off.
* 400 pages - Mark off 1 extra shelf of your choice
* Over 500 pages - Mark off 2 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 600 pages - Mark off 3 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 700-1000 and over pages - Mark off 4 extra shelves of your choice
(Please include this in your reporting)
For example:
216 shelves
23 books
Book over 400 pages crossed off so and so shelf.
8. Winning
The winner is one who has either read off all 350 shelves noted on the official list or who has read the most off these 350 shelves by the end date, April 30, 2010.
*Also, please post the shelf you 'touched' the most at the end of the challenge.
*At the end post the book that 'touched' the most shelves for you.
OFFICIAL LIST OF SHELVES
2000s
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
-
2008-books
2008-reads
2009-books
2009-read
2009-reads
20th-century
abandoned
academic
action
action-adventure
adult
adult-books
adult-fiction
adult-non-fiction
adventure
africa
all
all-time-favorites
alreadyread
already-read
amazon-wishlist
american
american-history
animals
anthology
anthologies
anthropology
a-great-list-of-top-books-to-read
architecture
art
audio
audiobook
audio-book
audiobooks
audio-books
autobiography
biography
biography-memoir
biographies
books
bookclub
book-club
bookcrossing
bookcrossing-com
bookshelf
books-i-own
books-i-own-to-read
books-i-want
books-owned
books-read-in-2009
books-sent-on
books-to-buy
books-to-check-out
books-we-own
borrowed
british
business
chick-lit
chicklit
childhood
childhood-books
childhood-favorites
children
children-books
children-young-adult
childrens
childrensbooks
childrens-books
childrens-fiction
childrens-lit
childrens-picture-books
childrens-ya
children-s
children-s-books
children-s-lit
children-s-literature
christian
christian-fiction
christianity
classic
classics
collection
college
comedy
comic
comics
comic-books
coming-of-age
contemporary
contemporary-fiction
contemporary-romance
cookbooks
cooking
couldn-t-finish
crafts
crime
crime-fiction
criticism
culture
currently-own
design
did-not-finish
didn-t-finish
don-t-own
do-not-own
drama
e-book
ebook
e-books
ebooks
economics
education
england
english
erotica
essays
family
fantasy
fantasy-scifi
fantasy-sci-fi
fantasy-sf
faves
favorite
favorites
favorite-authors
favorite-books
favourites
feminism
fiction
film
finished
fluff
food
for-school
french
friendship
fun
funny
gay
general
general-fiction
german
glbt
graphic
graphic-novel
graphicnovels
graphic-novels
guilty-pleasures
harlequin
have
have-read
health
high-school
historical
historicalfiction
historical-fiction
historical-romance
history
home-library
horror
how-to
humor
humour
indonesian
in-english
in-my-collection
in-my-library
inspirational
i-own
i-own-it
i-own-this
japan
juvenile
juvenile-fiction
keepers
kid-books
kids
kids-books
kindle
language
library
library-book
library-books
listened-to
lit
literary-fiction
literature
love
magic
manga
manga-manhwa
maybe
memoir
memoirs
military
mine
misc
modern-fiction
m-m
music
my-books
my-favorites
my-library
my-personal-library
mysteries
mystery
mystery-suspense
mystery-thriller
mythology
nature
need-to-buy
need-to-get
never-finished
non-fic
non-fiction
nonfiction
not-available-yet
not-owned
novel
novels
on-hold
on-my-bookshelf
on-my-shelf
other
own
own-but-not-read
own-it
own-to-read
owned
paperback
paranormal
paranormal-romance
parenting
partially-read
personal-collection
personal-library
philosophy
photography
picture-book
picture-books
picturebooks
plays
poetry
political
politics
psychology
queer
read-2007
read-in-2007
read-2008
read-in-2008
read-2009
read-in-2009
read-in-2010
read-for-school
read-more-than-once
realistic-fiction
recently-read
recommended
reference
relationships
religion
religious
reread
re-read
research
reviewed
romance
romance-erotica-pnr-to-read
school
school-books
science
science-fiction
sciencefiction
science-fiction-fantasy
sci-fi
scifi
sci-fi-and-fantasy
sci-fi-fantasy
scifi-fantasy
scpl
self-help
series
sf
sf-fantasy
short-stories
speculative-fiction
spiritual
spirituality
sports
sociology
stories
supernatural
suspense
teen
teen-books
teen-fiction
textbooks
theology
theory
thriller
thrillers
to-buy
to-get
to-purchase
to-read-fiction
to-read-interloan-my
to-read-interloan-sd
to-read-own
to-re-read
to-reread
traded
travel
trt-reviews
unfiled
unfinished
unread
unsorted
urban-fantasy
vampires
want
want-to-own
want-to-read
war
warehouse
we-own
wishlist
wish-list
writing
women
ya
ya-books
ya-fiction
ya-lit
youngadult
young-adult
young-adult-books
young-adult-fiction
youth
So please post your interest in participating in this challenge here
Thanks!!
Andreea wrote: "^Here is the original thread.-
I want in too. :D I need something to motivate me into reading more than usual this spring."
Thank you Andreea. I would love to take part too. Could I also receive the excel spreadsheet? (chriz@cybersmart (dot)co (dot)za)
Angela wrote: "7.NEW TWIST If you read a book with a certain amount of pages, you can cross off a shelf you are finding difficult to hit. If you cross off a shelf and later hit it, you cannot change your original shelf. You must choose another shelf to cross off.
* Over 400 pages - Mark off 1 extra shelf of your choice
* Over 500 pages - Mark off 2 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 600 pages - Mark off 3 extra shelves of your choice
* Over 601-1000 and over pages - Mark off 4 extra shelves of your choice "
Sorry to be picky, but the 601-1000+... should that maybe be 700-1000+? As is, it doesn't make sense to have an over 600 and an over 601...
Also, just for clarification, does a book with 400 pages (even) get an extra shelf, or is it 401 and more?
I am excited about the new twist! There are some shelves that I know I won't hit.
The Next Best Book Club
Books mentioned in this topic
Cables Untangled: An Exploration of Cable Knitting (other topics)Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic (other topics)
Does anyone have any ideas to make it more interesting or different?
I was thinking maybe we can also figure out how many times we touch one shelf too. I know there are some shelf I might have touched almost everytime it would I picked up a book. We can post our most touched shelf at the end of the challenge. Any other ideas??