REligion, dont read if touchy

[Stephanie]

Katie wrote: "What do you believe Tara?"

Hey, Katie what do you believe. I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. In other words. LDS. Mormon.

[Tara, In hoc signo vinces]

Sure. They both believe in the same one true God, as does Islam, but Christianity believes that Jesus was the last prophet, while Judaism does not.

[Stephanie]

John wrote: "head of christianity, the vatican"

never heard of them.

[Tara, In hoc signo vinces]

Katie wrote: "What do you believe Tara?"

I'm Catholic, but we've talked about religion in school and from the "at a distance" point of view. But I do believe in God.

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

the pope???

[Stephanie]

Katie wrote: "Wait-- Jesus is the Christ. The Son of God."

yup.

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

Katie wrote: "John wrote: "head of christianity, the vatican"

You probably mean some other religion."

vatican city, where the head of the christian church THE POPE lives???

[Stephanie]

yeah the pope's Catholic.

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

which is part of christianity

[Stephanie]

Katie wrote: "I'm Protestant"

ok.

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

well, that was made by henry VIII

[Tara, In hoc signo vinces]

Katie wrote: "So Judaism doesn't believe the Savior has come yet?"

I'm not sure, I don't know too much about Judaism. They just simply don't believe in Jesus. I'm not positive, but I think they believe Moses to be the last prophet (but don't quote me on that, I might be wrong).

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

joseph was going to have his wife killed, but came up with a story to get out of it

[Tara, In hoc signo vinces]

Actually, I really don't know who Jews believe the last prophet was, but I do know that they believe the last prophet came before Jesus.

[Tara, In hoc signo vinces]

Steph, if you don't mind me asking, what religion are you?

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

Katie wrote: "I mean the Joseph who wrote The Book of Mormon, John."

sorry, its still true what i wrothe though

[Stephanie]

Katie wrote: "I'm sorry if this offends you, Steph, but we believe Joseph (I forgot his last name) pretended to be a prophet a wrote a phony book of Mormon."

Joseph Smith. Doesn't offend me. But may I ask one question? Why would he go through everythign he did, why did those who believe in the Book of Mormon go through everythign they did if they didn't believe it was true? Peolpe were tarred and feathered for it. Sorry if this sounds like I'm attackign you, it's not meant that way. I really do want to know what you think.

[Stephanie]

John wrote: "joseph was going to have his wife killed, but came up with a story to get out of it"

as in Joseph Smith? no he wasn't.

[Tara, In hoc signo vinces]

Okay, I was looking on Wikipedia, and this is what it says about the last prophet.

"Classical Judaism teaches that there will be no prophet greater than Moses, and all the other prophets mentioned in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) were inferior to Moses and his prophecies."

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

Stephanie wrote: "John wrote: "joseph was going to have his wife killed, but came up with a story to get out of it"

as in Joseph Smith? no he wasn't."
no, i got confused, joseph father of jesus

[Stephanie]

Tara wrote: "Steph, if you don't mind me asking, what religion are you?"

I'm LDS, Mormon. The full name of our religion is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.

[Stephanie]

Joseph was a amazing man. He was kind and he loved little children.

[Stephanie]

John wrote: "Stephanie wrote: "John wrote: "joseph was going to have his wife killed, but came up with a story to get out of it"

as in Joseph Smith? no he wasn't."
no, i got confused, joseph father of jesus..."

he wasn't going to have his wife killed.

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

but to save her, he made up some crap about an angel telling him it was all right

[Stephanie]

Hm. Okay. Mind if I share what we believe with you? I'm not that great with knowledge of other religions either. Satan takes a bit of truth then uses a lie with it. Like, for example, when Eve partook of the forbidden fruit. He said that it would give her the knowldge of good and evil. and true it did. but they lie.....oh what was the lie.....UGH! Now I can't remeber but I knwo there was one there!

[Tara, In hoc signo vinces]

That's not crap, that's the truth; it did happen, except the angel came to him in a dream.

[Stephanie]

John wrote: "but to save her, he made up some crap about an angel telling him it was all right"

he didn't lie, he did see an angel, and Mary was a virgin.

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

you cant be a virgin and have a kid, if she was touched by god, she still had a form of sex, and so isnt a virgin anymore

[Tara, In hoc signo vinces]

John wrote: "you cant be a virgin and have a kid, if she was touched by god, she still had a form of sex, and so isnt a virgin anymore"

Um, excuse me? She wasn't "touched" by God, it was, so to speak, magic. A virgin is someone who hasn't had sex, and Mary didn't, hence she was a virgin.

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

magic doesnt exist

[Tara, In hoc signo vinces]

... hence the "so to speak."

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

i had a dream last night, an angel told me that i was to do somethinf greast today, now, in the BC times, were everyone believed in god, this could be believed, apply this to mary and joseph, a scared 14 year old who had an affair,

[Stephanie]

look. i'm not exactly sure how to explain it. here:

Mathew 1:20

But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

[Tara, In hoc signo vinces]

Um, what? I'm sorry, but the first part of what you said had nothing to do with the last part. Anyway, I'll be back later, I need to go take a shower.

[Stephanie]

I don't believe Mary's actual age is really known.

[Stephanie]

Tara wrote: "Um, what? I'm sorry, but the first part of what you said had nothing to do with the last part. Anyway, I'll be back later, I need to go take a shower."

hehe, love saturdays?

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

Stephanie wrote: "I don't believe Mary's actual age is really known. "

but she would have been at my age when she was pregannt, 13

[Stephanie]

maybe maybe not.

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

people died at about 30 in that time

[Stephanie]

i'm sure there were some exceptions.

[Stephanie]

just liek there is today

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

yeah, , all girls were married at 13(the start of adulthood) and had kids by 14

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

no, old enough to know that religion is stupid

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

just cause that that far up your own ass odysseus

[Stephanie]

i'm sure there were some girls who weren't. John, sorry if I'm frustrating you. I think it's pretty obvious that neither you or I are going to yeild to the other's veiw. And this conversation is gettign touchy.

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

your missing the point stephanie, at this time most people get maarried in there 20's, at that time, most got married in their early teens, same difference

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

so many more holes, do enlighten me. if gos was so great, why is that there are 6 different types of turtle on 6 different islands, why not just create ONE turtlu with all features of each other????

[Stephanie]

John wrote: "your missing the point stephanie, at this time most people get maarried in there 20's, at that time, most got married in their early teens, same difference"

What point exactly are you tryign to make? Maybe Mary was young when she was married as you say, maybe she wasn't. I don't know.

[John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW]

girls as that time married young, had kids young, died young

[Stephanie]

John wrote: "so many more holes, do enlighten me. if gos was so great, why is that there are 6 different types of turtle on 6 different islands, why not just create ONE turtlu with all features of each other????"

idk. how does that indicate evolution. they're just different types of turtle. it was how they were created.