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[Marc]

and supported the Khmer Rouge because we were sucking up to China who loathed the Vietnamese who had gone into Cambodia to boot the Khmer Rouge out of power

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

I have been pondering long and hard, as I have not been able to pin down what the Corbyn situation reminds me of. However, this evening it came to me in a moment of clarity - there are huge similarities between Jeremy Corbyn and Donald Crowhurst.

Both got an idea and got talked into taking an action that they were unsure of. Both set off on an adventure and were considered the outsider amateurs. Both came from behind to reluctantly take the lead when it was least expected. Both were forced into a situation that they were ill-equipped to handle.

Here is the documentary about Donald Crowhurst. It is both fascinating and tragic in equal measure, but incredibly compelling. Watch it and I think you will see things in a different light.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suw-H...

[Patti (baconater)]

Thanks Mikey.

I've not seen it posted on Facebook at all. Dave showed it to me.

[Jim]

I'd long forgotten about Donald Crowhurst and it's fascinating to look back on him.

[R.M.F.]

Corbyn has appointed Baron Watson as his shadow education minister.

For those not familiar with Scottish politics, Watson served 8 months in jail for trying to set fire to a hotel in Scotland...

Corbyn must be a Tory plant.

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

R.M.F wrote: "Corbyn must be a Tory plant."

What, an orchid?

[R.M.F.]

Geoff (G. Robbins) (The noisy passionfruit) wrote: "R.M.F wrote: "Corbyn must be a Tory plant."

What, an orchid?"

I was thinking more along the lines of nettle.

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

Nettles aren't posh enough for the Tories, RMF.

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

Was there really a space in 'an orchid'. Geoff. :o)

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "Was there really a space in 'an orchid'. Geoff. :o)"

Well, it's better than trying to fit in a nettle.

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

Geoff, if you are being obtuse I should have said was there there really a space between the words 'an orchid'. ;0)

[R.M.F.]

Geoff (G. Robbins) (The noisy passionfruit) wrote: "Nettles aren't posh enough for the Tories, RMF."

The sting, Geoff. The sting...and not the guy from The Police! Or the film before some smart ass chips in :)

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/

[Will]

Geoff (G. Robbins) (The noisy passionfruit) wrote: "I have been pondering long and hard, as I have not been able to pin down what the Corbyn situation reminds me of. However, this evening it came to me in a moment of clarity - there are huge simila..."

Hi epitaph is very moving, especially where it is carved... If you really want to read a great account, try this book - it's on my shelves and is well worth the read

A Voyage for Madmen

[Will]

Geoff, where does the telegraph stand on #piggate then?

You couldn't make this up!!!

[Marc]

I find it more alarming that our fledgeling PM smoked spliff while listening to Supertramp's "Crime Of The Century". Clearly a formative policy-forging moment

[Rosemary (grooving with the Picts)]

There may be truffle ahead...

[Marc]

Get Back Bacon

[Will]

I'll bet Boy George Osborne can't stop laughing.

[Marc]

you think he wasn't snorting cocaine off a dead rhino's hide in his youth?

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

Our betters???

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

Crime of the Century. At least he was smoking it to a classic album, that I saw performed live. He's gone up in my estimation.

[Marc]

wish you were here = we're all in it together...

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

Shine on you crazy diamond - Corbyn?

[Marc]

Geoff (G. Robbins) (The noisy passionfruit) wrote: "Shine on you crazy diamond - Corbyn?"

I think Corbyn would have been more of a fan of The Redskins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAFev...

[R.M.F.]

Once again, truth has been proven to be stranger than fiction.

If anything, Cameron has gone up in my estimation. Admittedly, he was starting from the bottom of a mine shaft, but none the less :)

[Marc]

so if I face-****** a pig's head in an exclusive Oxbridge student dining club you'd buy my book? Scuse me while I go procure a pig's head...

[R.M.F.]

Marc wrote: "so if I face-****** a pig's head in an exclusive Oxbridge student dining club you'd buy my book? Scuse me while I go procure a pig's head..."

I don't know why the UK is surprised by these revelations - the upper classes have always been a law onto themselves.

You wrote a book??

[Marc]

I'm not in the least bit surprised.

Yeah that's what I do. 9 of 'em so far

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

Marc wrote: "I'm not in the least bit surprised.

Yeah that's what I do. 9 of 'em so far"

So, 9 pigs heads it is then.

[Marc]

at this point Geoff, I'll settle for one :-)

[Patti (baconater)]

Almost enough to put me off bacon.

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

Patti (baconater) wrote: "Almost enough to put me off bacon."

You're only fooling yourself, Patti.

[Patti (baconater)]

True.

Would take much worse than that.

[Will]

Loving the Facebook gags..

Especially the one of Milliband pulling a face whilst eating a bacon buttie to the caption:

That moment you realise Dave's provided the mayonnaise...

I'm a big fan of Crime of The Century though. Does that make me a bad person?

[Patti (baconater)]

You made me gag, Will.

So.

Anybody drive a VW?

[Jim]

There seem to be two strands of Cameron joke doing the rounds. Amongst what you might call the non-intellectual and politically incorrect the most repeatable is 'I didn't know Cameron had been out with my ex-wife'

[Will]

Patti, why would anyone choose to drive a diesel? (Except Jim, who has access to red diesel. Not that I'm suggesting anything of course.)

Geoff had an Audi, I seem to recall?

[R.M.F.]

Two key questions:

1) Why is Ashcroft releasing this stuff now, if he's been sitting on it for years?

2) Why isn't Cameron denying this?

[Michael]

1) He's a prick.

2) He's a prick.

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

Will wrote: "Patti, why would anyone choose to drive a diesel? (Except Jim, who has access to red diesel. Not that I'm suggesting anything of course.)

Geoff had an Audi, I seem to recall?"

You recall correctly. Actually, I had two, one was superb (petrol) the other was... less so, that was diesel.

My current car is a diesel and is very economical for the travelling I do, lots of long distance driving. No use for short journeys, as many people found out when the dealers mis-sold them.

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

Mind you, reports are now beginning to appear that the petrol cars engine management systems have also been gamed to reflect lower CO2 levels.

After all, why only cheat on one type of engine?

[Will]

They must be gutted that a hidden computer cheat was discovered!

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

evidently there has been confusion for some years. When the Euro-6 standard was imposed, it was expected that nitrogen oxide levels would decline, but they didn't. This is what raised suspicions. Of course, not all diesel cars are VW Group, so this must be quite common.

[R.M.F.]

Michael Cargill wrote: "1) He's a prick.

2) He's a prick."

That goes without saying, Michael, but my questions still stand! :)

[Jim]

surely you remember the phrase 'to deny is to confirm'

Denying will actually do no good. He probably couldn't afford to fight Ashcroft in the courts as Ashcroft could just spend a few million to keep it in the headlines for months or years

As it is the sort of comments I've heard, people by and large don't seem to bothered. Another joke I heard was where one chap joined some others standing chatting when it just came out and made a comment about what cameron put in pigs mouths. The reply was "I've seen some of the women you slept with" followed by general laughter.

The general opinion I see out there when you just stop and talk to people in queues or whatever is along the lines of "they're all rich spoiled brats on serious money. We're supposed to be impressed because some socialist has take a cut in income more than I earn a year just to join Jeremy Corbyn's shadow cabinet."

[Will]

Geoff (G. Robbins) (The noisy passionfruit) wrote: "evidently there has been confusion for some years. When the Euro-6 standard was imposed, it was expected that nitrogen oxide levels would decline, but they didn't. This is what raised suspicions...."

If the cheat is computer software based, I would automatically suspect every other major car manufacturer as well, to be honest

[Geoff (G. Robbins) (merda constat variat altitudo)]

Will wrote: "If the cheat is computer software based, I would automatically suspect every other major car manufacturer as well, to be honest "

If you think about it, it is, once again, the tragedy of the commons. To sell cars they have to have lower emissions, increase acceleration, increase torque, and increase fuel economy over their competitors. If one manufacturer is getting advantage by disguising its emission results, to indicate that their cars have better performance, then the others have no choice. As I said above, the tragedy of the commons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy...

[Will]

I can laugh, assured that it is entirely unlikely that such a thing was ever fitted to my Alfa, and if it was fitted it wouldn't have ever worked...

[Marc]

the Tory journos were dealing with it by questioning the standards of journalistic fact checking and the taste of such prurience. Both ironic considering what they blithely do to those on the Left they want to tear down