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[Jim]

Marc wrote: "thanks Jim, that looks well interesting and will form my lunchtime reading"

That's what I thought Marc (and Lynne)
Certainly it explains the massive number of 'free' quizzes on facebook
And even more convinces me that I am right not to agree to anything that wants access to my facebook profile

[Jim]

R.M.F wrote: "As I've said before, I'm an Anglophile, but England has decided to bank its future on the likes of second hand car salesmen like Farage, clowns like Boris Johnson, and corrupt lackeys like Liam Fox, who will run England into the ground. ..."

I think you mistake what is the real driver, this is about the US but it travels well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbWRf...

[Marc]

Ugh! Dimly perceived many of the bits, but that article puts them altogether in coherent fashion.

Glad to report I have never been on Facebook nor have I ever had a smartphone moving in my pocket with me & being tracked

[Jim]

I too do not have a smart phone
And even the cheap little nokia lives switched off :-)

[Marc]

they'll still have our inside leg measurements JIm

[Jim]

Marc wrote: "they'll still have our inside leg measurements JIm"

only if you keep your phone in your trouser pocket :-)

[Marc]

then they'll have my bra size as I keep mine in my inside breast pocket

[Jim]

Marc wrote: "then they'll have my bra size as I keep mine in my inside breast pocket"

LOL

[T4bsF (Call me Flo)]

Marc wrote: "then they'll have my bra size as I keep mine in my inside breast pocket"

As the radioactive waves from mobiles have been accused of all sorts of hazards - you need to hope that gynecomastia isn't one of them then!

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

Husband read that after I showed it to him. His comment was that it might have been relevant to the question of why Theresa May didn't call an election when she was first made prime minister. He's always puzzled that on paper she had a good chance of a biggish victory,

[Jim]

Lynne (Tigger's Mum) wrote: "Husband read that after I showed it to him. His comment was that it might have been relevant to the question of why Theresa May didn't call an election when she was first made prime minister. He's ..."

Personally I suspect that anybody leading the conservative party at the moment would grit their teeth and cling on until the boundary commission brings in the new boundaries and balances out the electoral arithmetic

https://www.theguardian.com/commentis... is worth reading to get the background

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

I think the impetus has gone now, it was a few months ago, but the new boundaries will affect us in Wales, I think we'll lose a constituency.

[Jim]

yes, the number of MPs is being cut to 600 from 650, if I remember correctly it was a manifesto promise back in 2010.
There was to be a realignment then, but the libdems refused to back it because the British people told them where to stuff their PR in that referendum

[R.M.F.]

We're losing a few seats up here thanks to this latest round of Gerrymandering, but strangely, the House of Lords goes from strength to strength in its quest to overtake the membership of the upper echelons of the Chinese Communist party.

[Jim]

There is a strange reluctance on the part of parties to reform the Lords. Mainly because they always felt they had an inbuilt majority.

However the old inbuilt tory majority went when Tony Blair got rid of the hereditary peers
Now Labour and Libdems have 300 to 250 and there's crossbenchers and others to take into account. But whilst there is a virtually obscene over representation of Libdems when compared to their standing in the country, they've not made any UKIP peers when they got a serious number of votes in the General election.
One sensible move would be to just retire all Lords over 70. Keep the title but can no longer sit.

[R.M.F.]

Another sensible move would be to chase them out of London with a horse whip and drown them in the Channel.

Alas, we live in more restrained times...

[Jim]

R.M.F wrote: "Another sensible move would be to chase them out of London with a horse whip and drown them in the Channel.

Alas, we live in more restrained times..."

we do, we even leave Scots unhanged :-)

[David]

Not everyone on Facebook is using psychometric profiling. I am still bombarded with hair restoration and East European dating adverts.

[Jim]

David wrote: "Not everyone on Facebook is using psychometric profiling. I am still bombarded with hair restoration and East European dating adverts."

be careful, as the systems get better, receiving those sorts of adverts will be accepted as an admission of guilt by the courts :-(

[Marc]

David wrote: "Not everyone on Facebook is using psychometric profiling. I am still bombarded with hair restoration and East European dating adverts."

they obviously see you as a glabrous Remainer

[David]

I hadn't realised that Remainers are stereotyped by marketing wonks as bald lecherous slav-fanciers. I guess you live and learn.

[Jim]

David wrote: "I hadn't realised that Remainers are stereotyped by marketing wonks as bald lecherous slav-fanciers. I guess you live and learn."

well it's no more irrational that some of the insults that have been bandied around :-)

[Marc]

so I devised 7 cartoons on the theme of Donald J Trump's America and commissioned an artist to illustrate them.

See what you think

http://sulcicollective.blogspot.co.uk...

[Will]

Rise up and fight Bexit shouts Tony Blair!

Now I know Brexit is the right decision

[Michael]

Blair's a cock, but what he is saying is true.

The only ones speaking any sense are Blair and Ken Clarke.

[Marc]

and Nigel Farage and Michael Gove continue to convince me Remain was the right option. Spurious argument Will

[Michael]

Gove is a dangerous lunatic.

[Jim]

Michael Cargill wrote: "Gove is a dangerous lunatic."

strangely enough I saw somebody writing that he was one of best and most intelligently liberal Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice we've had for years

[Michael]

I've heard similar comments about his time there, actually.

[Marc]

what better than that used sanitary towel Liz Truss you mean?

[Will]

Michael Cargill wrote: "Gove is a dangerous lunatic."

More dangerous than Blair? Really?

[Michael]

Blair isn't an elected MP, so yes.

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

I said on here ages ago that Blair patronises people when they disagree. It's always 0h dear, it's our ffault for not explaining x or y properly. Inferring that we didn't understand the latest scam he was about to pull. His arrogance is breathtaking in that he could never accept that not only did we understand as soon as he opened his mouth but we understood too well and just didn't like it. That thought never entered his head and he's so dangerous. Almost Messianic in his fervent belief of himself and his backers.

[Marc]

I don't think any of us here disagree with that analysis Lynne. Just he's not the real player anymore

[Jim]

Marc wrote: "I don't think any of us here disagree with that analysis Lynne. Just he's not the real player anymore"

looks like he wants to be again doesn't it.
Wonder why

[T4bsF (Call me Flo)]

I was thinking that Jim. Very strange that he's kept in the background all this time and then just come out full whack!

[Jim]

T4bsF (Call me Flo) wrote: "I was thinking that Jim. Very strange that he's kept in the background all this time and then just come out full whack!"

It's one of those weird things where if you're a conspiracy theorist it's easier to explain. Obviously the secret masters who are planning to create the united states of europe sent him back.
But actually if they are all wise and all knowing then they'd know that he's so toxic it would backfire on them.
So obviously the secret masters are conspiring to destroy Europe and are using Blair as their puppet :-)

[Will]

Whenever Blair opens his toxic mouth I am reminded of the old adage used by detectives.

Follow the money.

[Chris]

Why has nobody mentioned the obvious parallel?

Blair says about the Brexit vote, in effect: "It was a silly thing to act on imperfect intelligence and without understanding what the consequences of our actions will be."

I think he's in a bubble of advisors egging him on, like kids in the playground.

"Go on, Tony! You can have him! It'll be easy!"

[Lynne (Tigger's Mum)]

Junckers is retiring and it's no secret that Blair was suggested for the President's job.

[T4bsF (Call me Flo)]

............or perhaps because Corbyn is in such a tail-spin that they're desperate enough to invite Tony back!!!

[Marc]

nope

[Will]

Wot Marc said. In spades.

[Jim]

According to Yougov 35% reckon he'll harm the case for staying in the EU and 40% reckon he'll make no difference either way.
I suspect this was hardly the result he'd hoped for

[Patti (baconater)]

Jim, you're quoting a poll?

I'm shocked!

[Jim]

Patti (baconater) wrote: "Jim, you're quoting a poll?

I'm shocked!"

I'll quote another Pole

There is a fundamental difference between the Polish experience of the state and the Russian experience. In the Polish experience, the state was always a foreign power. So, to hate the state was a patriotic act. Ryszard Kapuscinski

[David]

"Those whom the Gods would destroy they first make mad" is an expression dating back to the Ancient Greeks, and its obvious applicability to Tony Blair obscures his undoubted talents. He is a master of the apposite sound-bite ("Tough on Crime, Tough on the Causes of Crime"), a considerable orator, and he has effectively marshalled arguments for a referendum on the terms of the separation. We've had one referendum already. Why should we not have another once we know what the consequences will be?

[Jim]

David wrote: ""We've had one referendum already. Why should we not have another once we know what the consequences will be?..."

actually I can answer that one.
By the time we know what the consequences will be, we won't be the ones who can make the decision. Effectively we'll have left the EU and it will be up to the other 27 to decide what terms they're willing to give us to let us stay.
The problem with holding a referendum about the results of a negotiation is that the people you're negotiating with don't have to take any notice of the referendum

[T4bsF (Call me Flo)]

Not a lot of people know that! (or so it seems!)

[Will]

So when the negotiators on all sides come to the best deal that they can, it has to be approved by the European Parliament, the UK Parliament, and the parliaments of all 27 remaining states.

Doubtless the hot air they all generate will keep afloat this pig that is flying past the windows... or negate the need for two nuclear power stations.