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Sep 14, 2026 12:38PM
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To some degree, the setting is dependent on what we refer to as "world-building". Seems to me that there are two basic types:1) a setting within a specific universe, where the universe surrounds every aspect, and its description is a huge part of the story (in some cases, too much). Examples: the Mars trilogy, the Old Man's War series, Hothouse
2) a "bottle" story (from "ship-in-a-bottle"), where the story takes place in a smaller, defined space, and the universe doesn't play into it much.
Example: The Voyage of the Space Beagle; Project Hail Mary; The Daughter of Doctor Moreau; Six Wakes
The first category dominates, but there are plenty of the second. And finally, addressing the question, I don't really have any preference, although bottle stories can be more thrilling. And, as we've discussed, sometimes the author can get carried away with describing the universe & neglect to fill out the characters or the story.
Allan wrote: "To some degree, the setting is dependent on what we refer to as "world-building". Seems to me that there are two basic types:."What about Orphans in the Sky, where the ship for them is the universe?
Oleksandr wrote: "What about Orphans in the Sky, where the ship for them is the universe..."A classic "bottle" story! Virtually everything takes place inside the ship.
Allan wrote: "A classic "bottle" story! Virtually everything takes place inside the ship."When it was first published, the first part was called Universe :) and for them it was really the whole universe; thus, I disagree that it was a bottle. 'bottle' IMHO if characters are aware of the universe beyond
I like all kinds of sf settings, but these days I think I am particularly interested in convincingly alien planets. I really enjoyed Tchaikovsky’s Shroud.
Oleksandr wrote: "Allan wrote: "for them it was really the whole universe; thus, I disagree that it was a bottle. 'bottle' IMHO if characters are aware of the universe beyond..."Well, there is a spectrum of course. But to me it doesn't matter if they're aware of the universe around them if it's not really integral to the story. I took the term from Star Trek: The Next Generation, after reading how they would classify scripts, i.e. going down to a planet or fighting a space battle vs. events entirely enclosed within the ship.
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