The List

[Roland]

Because the book just came out a few weeks ago, no one has posted the entire list of books yet. Therefore, let's use this post as our way of building up the list. The books are organized into 0-3, 3+, 5+, 8+ and 12+, so when posting the books, let's keep them divided into these categories. Hopefully we can get this done before the year ends!

[Tanya (aka ListObsessedReader)]

EDIT: I have removed the googledoc I had posted. Given the legal difficulties Arukiyomi the inventor of the original 1001 spreadsheet has had recently due to his offering his spreadsheets and apps for sale I no longer feel comfortable sharing the list. I am sure there are many other places, the shelves of this group included, that anybody can find out what is on the list now so much time has passed, so you shouldn't miss it. :)

[Roland]

Wait, you did this yourself? I have to applaud you for taking the time to put this together. Amazing work! Thank you so much for posting this!

[Amanda]

Wow...thanks Tanya.

[Roland]

Tanya, any idea as to whether a specific Little Brown Bear book was mentioned, or should there just be one title "Little Brown Bear" by Lebrun? I couldn't find it while adding books to the group.

Also, and this is just me venting, I've already noticed that, as with the 1001 Books and 1001 Movies lists, there are books that may be either impossible to find out out of print. I don't know if it's available and I'm just not finding it, but "Julian the Rabbit" was nowhere to be found, even after I did a search on the author.

I'll add more books to the group after work, and also take note of any difficult, hard-to-find titles.

[Phillip]

Hi, just to let you know that I have started a list for this at listopia if anyone wants to vote. I've put the (hopefully) full list in the comments section underneath.

http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/36...

[Tanya (aka ListObsessedReader)]

No worries! Since I went through the effort of typing up for myself I figure it's easy to save others the trouble by a simple cut and paste :)

Roland, the "Little Brown Bear" by Claude LeBrun which is on the list is apparently originally published in French, I don't know whether it has made it to English, which may be the reason you are having difficulty tracking it down. Julian the Rabbit is Italian with the original title "Giulio congiglio: storie per un anno"

I feel your frustration too. It's all very well and good for them to translate these titles for the purpose of the list, but it would be nice if it would indicate the titles availability in English. This is after all an English language compiled list with English language reviews. The purpose of a list to me is the challenge to try and complete it some day. To know there are titles I am not going to be able to get my hands on is frustrating to say the least! Yet I continue to collect them...

[Roland]

Good lord. As it is, when I went through the list I figured there'd be issues with the Chinese Folk Tales, Peanuts, and Old Master Q titles, but still. Why bother making a list that probably no one can complete? Maybe I should make a separate thread for hard-to-find titles, now that I know for sure that this is going to be a problem.

Thanks for the info!

[Manybooks, Active moderator]

I just browsed the 1001 list, and there are also some German works that are not available in English translation. The main one I noticed is Nesthäkchen by Else Ury, which is and always has been one of my favourite children's series, but unless you can read German, you are out of luck. I am glad that it is on the list, but if it is not available in translation for English readers, it kind of defeats the purpose.

[Roland]

Is this the same as Nesthäkchen and the World War? If so, then it looks like a translation is available at Amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/Nesth%C3%A4kche...

[Manybooks, Active moderator]

Nesthäkchen and the World War is actually the fourth book of the series (there were 10 novels), and it is the only one that has been translated into English (quite recently as well). The original title is Nesthäkchen und der Weltkrieg. The book has an interesting history, as it is the only one of the series that was not republished in German after the Second World War, mostly due to the fact that editors thought it too nationalistic (although, in my opinion it is no more or less so than American, Canadian and British girls novels dealing with WW1, but due to WW2, editors were obviously cautious). Thus, newer German editions of Nesthäkchen do not include Nesthäkchen und der Weltkrieg. They have also been heavily abridged and shortened, so that if one wants to read the original, one has to purchase editions which were published before the rise of Nazism. The novels were not published during the Nazi era, because Else Ury was Jewish and was not allowed to publish anymore and also could not get her work republished. Tragically, she was not able to leave Germany as many other Jewish artists did (she was taking care of her invalid mother who could not travel) and she died at Auschwitz in 19443. It is amazing that, while especially the Nesthäkchen series is still one of the most popular girls' series in modern Germany, Else Ury's tragic fate has only recently become public knowledge.

I honestly do not think that the title on the list signifies Nesthäkchen and the World War, but probably signifies either the whole series or the first and most famous book in the series (Nesthäkchen und ihre Puppen).

[Manybooks, Active moderator]

By the way, Nesthäkchen and the World War is a very interesting read, but because one cannot get the other novels of the series in translation (and because it is the fourth book in the series), it kind of leaves you hanging, especially at the end. I wish someone would translate the entire series into English, but from the originals, not from the recent abridged versions.

[Manybooks, Active moderator]

I have just received my book. The part on Else Ury's Nesthäkchen (p. 457) definitely describes the whole series, of which only the one novel not available in modern German editions of the series is available in English translation.

[Silvana]

I can't believe they put The Scarlet Letter in the list @_@

[Silvana]

Tanya wrote: "Hi All,

Here is a link to a copy of the list. I hope it works ok, I haven't used googledocs much before. Please let me know if it isn't working!

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?ke......"

Mille grazie, you rock!

[Angela]

Hi all,

I've finally made the kids 1001 book list in Goodreads:
http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...

Which also means you can use this url to view if you prefer: http://www.goodreads.com/shelf/search...

Plus, I've made all the sub-lists.

Kids 0-3 Years: http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...

Kids 3+ Years: http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...

Kids 5+ Years: http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...

Kids 8+ Years: http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...

Kids 12+ Years: http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...

I've done my best to find English versions, but if I couldn't prove an English version existed I have listed the original language. With all this hunting around I may have messed up at some point, too. Let me know!

Hope this makes it easier for other people to find the books - It certainly is an interesting list of books!

Ange.

[Linda]

Will there be a version of the list available on which that we can check off the ones we've read, like the other 1001 Books list?

[Tanya (aka ListObsessedReader)]

If you have a copy of the spreadsheet for the other 1001 list you should be able to simply copy and paste the information for this list over the top and save a new copy. I have been trying to edit my version so I can upload it for everyone to use (I have additional columns for other family members and items we own which I adapted from the original Arukiyomi list) but it seems to lose colours and other formatting when I try and upload it to googledocs so I'm not sure if its losing the formulas too...

[Linda]

I figured out that I could download it then save it on my computer. I'm now in the process of checking off the books I've read and/or own.

I have several friends who have had/will be having babies recently, so I'm going to print out the list for them so they can get started with their little one right away!

[SpikedLove]

Wow Tanya I have to admit I am impressed that you put the list together and am very thankful! I love to read but feel like I have missed several good books since my reading fascination didn't really hit till high school! I'm looking forward to going through the list and ready as many as I can.

[Garsy]

Hey all! My husband finally showed me all about goodreads so here I am finally! He bought me this book for Christmas and since January 1st I've been working my way through the list - after he made me a nice spreadsheet and all. With a little help from some very great local children's librarians I'm well on my way. Getting pretty frustrated trying to locate some titles, but I'm not going to get to irritated and if I can find another title by the same author I'll be fine. Some of the German titles I can find in German but not English so I guess my eldest will have to translate for me, as he is in his 3rd year of German now. Now to get the rest of the kids to take French and Spanish!

[Angie]

thanks so much for taking the time to do this! This is exactly what I've been looking for!!! :-)

[Polstar]

wow wow wow - thank you so much. I used to have this book and then lost it in my divorce. So to have access to the list again until I get my own copy of the book is amazing. Thank you so so so much.

[Lesley]

Tanya~ thanks from me too... I copied yours and then was able to mark the books I read, mark the books I own, and also highlight the ones I want to read first!

[Skittles]

Some books I absolutely loved were Double Identity,
Red Kayak and the Hunger games! About 11-13 range of reading!

[Linda]

Hello fellow book fiends

& closet List obsessives ...

I hoped to find some way to electronically load my own 1001 bookshelf list via export/import - but we don't seem to have that function. Do the moderators?

Anyway, before I start entering any more I thought it worth quickly reviewing our bookshelves.

0-3, 3, 5, 8, 12 are all fine
Anyone know any reason for 'The List'? 'All' should cover it I think. Anyone want any others?

Also, the default when entering the books is 'Read', when really for easy management of the monthly discussion books we'd be better to set them all at the start to 'To Read'.

Thoughts?

[Briar Rose]

Linda, seems like you've done a lot in adding books to the shelf, thank you.

There's no feature for moderators to import lists of books sadly. We'll just have to manually add them. If you like, I can send out a group message to everyone who'd like to participate in adding books to the shelf. We could get people to do a letter of the alphabet (all the books starting with 'A' for example) or by decade or age group.

There's also no way to batch edit books to move them all to the 'to read' shelf, so this will have to be done manually too. (Anyone who wants to help adding books to the list can do this too).

In addition to dividing the list by age group, I can add the other categories from the list - nationality and decade of publication.

[Briar Rose]

Oh and big thanks to Emily and Aida too, I noticed they've both added a whole lot of books recently.

[Briar Rose]

Okay, after spending some time working with the bookshelf, I've added a new shelf called 'hard to find' for all the books that don't appear to have an English translation or are out of print and impossible to get on abebooks. I'll also start a discussion thread about hard to find books from the list.

The list appears to have 0 books on it right now, but that's a bug with the group shelf. Click on it and you'll see a list of books.

[Linda]

I'm working through the 8+ group ....

[Briar Rose]

Great, thanks Linda! I'll work on the 12+ group then :)

[Linda]

No probs - saw you were adding bookshelves as I was putting some books on(!), so half of the 8+ group will have the decade they're from as well. We'll improve the list as we go ....

[Christina]

Hi All, I have just spend Hours and hours listing from the 1001 Book to create an accurate list of all the 1001 books.

I see many have used from Goodreads lists, but people can add to those lists and they might not be accurate.

You are welcome to go to my pages and you will find the full 1001 books listed under 1 COMPLETE CHILDREN

To get all the books onto your page all you have to do is to click on my list and then click Compare.

Then you will notice under rating it says in small print to ADD or EDIT book. You then can click and it will add to your list you have created already.

If you did not have a 1001 list yet create one and then just add all the books from my list.

This should help you in knowing what books are on the list or not. In the past I have found probably a good Alpha list and a not alpha list on the internet, but the trick was to easily get those lists onto my page. Now you will be able to do that.

I hope this may help you. Keep Reading. I am heading toward the half way mark. Many are Foreign books which I will never be able to read, but it may be possible to get 3/4th of the way through this list.

Christy

[Heather]

With apologies to everyone above who made versions of the list as well as all of those who worked so hard on putting together our bookshelf, it might be good to point out that there is actually no one version of THE LIST.

I also spent hours and hours (actually a couple of weeks in January) with the copy of the 1001 book that I checked out of our local library. I figured out pretty quickly that there were a couple of problems with deciding on what really constituted THE LIST.

1. There are actually some slight differences between the 1001 books listed in different editions of the book. Besides comparing my book's list to the above bookshelf, I also noticed differences between books in my edition of the book and the lists that are online: "The Fellowship of the Ring" is one such example. There are others. Having also made a list of all of the other suggested reads that were in the edition that I checked out from the library, it would appear that the author/editor changed her mind and switched some titles between "must read" and "other suggested reads" by the same author in different editions of the book. If you thought that you were imagining things, you weren't. There really are different lists.

2. Some of the "titles" to be read listed in the 1001 book are not actually titles at all. Some are titles of a series, which leaves it up to you to figure out which book you want to read (Leo et Popi, etc.). One entry is simply a category that you must fill with a title of your choice. One is a sort-of title for which you must find an author. One title, I am fairly sure, is not actually a book at all--it may have been a short story/novella and it remains to be seen if any of us can actually find it.

Anyone who has actually spent some time (tons of time!) looking through an actual copy of the book and tried to figure out what some of the entries mean should know these two things. It is unfortunate that well meaning people with librarian privileges here at Goodreads have complicated the matter by creating entries for "books" on the 1001 list that really don't exist. (Real books have ISBN or other cataloging numbers, publishing houses and dates that can be found everywhere from Amazon to Worldcat.) I have corrected the titles that I have run across with that issue, but I doubt that will stop others from doing it again.

It would be nice if one of the group leaders took some time to make note of these problem entries so that those without access to a copy of the 1001 to look at can be aware of the titles with problems or choices to be made.

It feels that if you want to complete the challenge you have some choices, keeping in mind that some of the entries actually give you some choices (as they are titles of series, etc):

1. Follow to the best of your ability one of the lists in a physical copy that you can secure or one of the list choices either above, on the group bookshelf, or on Listology.

2. Merge the lists that you can find and read all of the books. (1007? 1010? Has anyone figured out all of the choices yet?)

3. Merge the lists that you can find and knock a few titles off until you get to the magic number 1001. (My choice).

Heather

[Christina]

True some book titles might be a series, but in that case, at least I think read the first book of the series and consider you did enough, then read all of the series if you like.

As to lists there ARE lists which can be found on the internet of the original 1001 books in an alfa list and otherwise. One might have to work with translated titles when comparing.

I wanted ALL books which are 1305. I finally now have on my page all books listed and there are a few other people out there that have all 1305 listed, but some do not have good lists. Do a lot of searching and comparing.

Very true that one does Not want to use the Goodreads list as a complete list because of the fact that people can add to this list at any time. The lists can be helpful, but if one is really only wanting the 1001 list you might also google/search and see if you find in your search if it is mentioned to be on the 1001 list and maybe compare with other people you have found on Goodreads that are trying to read all 1305 books to see if they have it listed.

Also if only do a book now and then check out on Goodreads if other people on the 1001 list have or are reading the book you want to read mentioned in Posts of books read. If you don't find any mention that others are or have read the book it might not be on any list keep checking or pick another book.

There are plenty of classic and popular books of the past on this list to keep one busy for a Longgggg time, before one needs to worry too much about not reading books and then finding they were not on the list. It all depends how serious you are in reading them all in what amount of time.

Myself I am working for them all, but minus any foreign language books if I cannot find a translation for it. My Goal at the moment is to get the first 500 which I am over half done.. and I've got on the Children's list almost to 500!

(For an extra note: I went through the 1001 Childrend's book and created a complete list. I asked Random House if they also change the children's book list and they have so far never replied back and I have never read that they have changed the original 1001 list.)

Just read read read...
Christy

[Christina]

Gee I see I posted July 16th...

Well, I just finished another 25 books.. and now have 450 read of the 1001 Children's List.

I see above I also talked about the adult 1305 list on here hmmm??? Need 20 more to get 300 read on there.

As to this Children's List I went through the 1001 book list and now have a separate list of the foreign books that I cannot read, and also I add books that I cannot get from other state libraries. So far that list count is up to 111 books.

I am working hard on the Newbery Honor books and many of those are also on this list.

I know now I will never get all 1001 books read because of those foreign books or books I cannot find at all that are in English.

My main Goal is to get at least to 500 of them read. Only 50 more to read to get there. They do add up!

Keep reading, reading, reading,
Christy

[Manybooks, Active moderator]

Manybooks wrote: "I have just received my book. The part on Else Ury's Nesthäkchen (p. 457) definitely describes the whole series, of which only the one novel not available in modern German editions of the series is..."

Just to update, the translator who translated Nesthäkchen und der Weltkrieg into English, has now also translated four of the other books. They are available on Amazon (both as paperbacks and as kindle downloads) and the translations look decent enough.

[Ellinor, Active moderator]

When I recently cleaned up the listopia list https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3... because it had been seriously spammed I realised that apperently the international versions of the list (German and Spanish) list two books the Englisch version doesn't (at least the two copies available on Open Library don't).

They are:
Loulou by Grégoire Solotareff which replaces Joyful Noise: Poems for Two Voices by Paul Fleischman in the 5+ section

and
City of the Beasts by Isabel Allende which replaces The Barrumbi Kids by Leonie Norrington in the 8+ section.

There might be more but those two struck me immediately.

So it's not just the adult list but also the kids list with different books in different editions.

[Beverly]

Roland wrote: "Good lord. As it is, when I went through the list I figured there'd be issues with the Chinese Folk Tales, Peanuts, and Old Master Q titles, but still. Why bother making a list that probably no one..."

I consider every book that I cannot access through Open Library, Gutenberg, YouTube, or Worldcat as "hard to find." I cannot possibly purchase all the books I cannot find in one of these ways, especially sight unseen. There are several books, such as "Roule Galette" that I have tried numerous times to get through Worldcat, but my requests are cancelled time after time (as unavailable). And it is not available in Open Library, even though several editions are listed, but all are Not in Library. This makes trying to complete this list very frustrating.
And what about "Old Master Q" which was published in Chinese newspapers! How are we supposed to find this?
While I applaud Eccleshare's effort to be inclusive, for English speakers, we need a 1001 Books in English (including translated into English and readily available) to read before you grow up!

[Beverly]

I don't know if it's available and I'm just not finding it, but "Julian the Rabbit" was nowhere to be found, even after I did a search on the author. Julian the Rabbit is Italian with the original title "Giulio congiglio: storie per un anno"..."

I found a couple of this board book series on YouTube, in the Italian. The one I watched (and counted as part of my 1001 Books) is entitled: "Giulio Coniglio fa merenda." An Italian speaker reads the very short board book, which has basically one sentence on each page and is pretty easy to follow, even if one does not read or speak Italian (I don't). Also, it is short enough to write down all the words from the book and use google translate (or similar) to translate the book into English (which I did). (The author also reads some of her Giulio Coniglio books).

[Charley]

Beverly wrote: " I don't know if it's available and I'm just not finding it, but "Julian the Rabbit" was nowhere to be found, even after I did a search on the author. Julian the Rabbit is Italian with the original..."

I don't know if you're interested, but some of the Giulio Coniglio books are available in English as ebooks under the title: Julio Bunny. I read (and liked) this one from the series: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

Also, from the other post above, regarding Old Master Q: Many (over 2000) of the comics are available with English translations at the official Old Master Q webpage here: https://www.oldmasterq.com/comics/

This latter option is not the same as reading a book, for sure, and can't be easily listed on Goodreads. But, I was able to read a few hundred of the comics and get a sense/appreciation for what they were about. For me, this was good enough to check Old Master Q off the list.

[Beverly]

Charley wrote: "Beverly wrote: " I don't know if it's available and I'm just not finding it, but "Julian the Rabbit" was nowhere to be found, even after I did a search on the author. Julian the Rabbit is Italian w..."

Thanks for the info on Old Master Q! Silly me, I never even checked to see if there was a website!

The "Julio Bunny" books are not available as e-books in either one of the library systems that I have access to, and I don't plan on purchasing any.

[Beverly]

An addendum to my message #39 above:
I did find "Roule Galette" and "Marlaguette" on YouTube in French. I do not read or speak French, but I listened to the readings. Then I went page by page of each book to write out all the words and used Google Translate for a rough translation of each one. But the translation is good enough for me to understand what is happening in each book. And "Roule Galette" has a lot of repetition. So I do count those as my having "read" them for my 1001 list.
I will be looking for more of the picture book length books on YouTube.

[Linda]

Beverly wrote: "An addendum to my message #39 above:
I did find "Roule Galette" and "Marlaguette" on YouTube in French. I do not read or speak French, but I listened to the readings. Then I went page by page of ea..."

Hi Beverly - I read Roule Galette using YouTube too - but I have an easier method for you. Download/open a Translate app onto a smart device (Google Translate or Translate). Then open Camera. It will open with 'Detect language' and likely English for yourself - then hold the camera over the words to translate. Watching the words dance around as the translator interprets the image is so much fun. It often adjusts words as it settles down. it's NOT the same as a properly translated version of course - and loses so much of the nuance, rhythm & rhyme, but when we're spread all over the world we take what we can get! Finding anything in Australia has been a challenge, but at 574 read, it's going to be years before I run out of books to read!
Enjoy the challenge xx
& if you can find me Albin says Goodnight I'll be your friend forever and a day :-)

[Beverly]

Linda wrote: "Beverly wrote: "An addendum to my message #39 above:
I did find "Roule Galette" and "Marlaguette" on YouTube in French. I do not read or speak French, but I listened to the readings. Then I went pa..."

I did what you suggested: downloaded the Google translate app and tried it out. Pretty impressive.
I have not been able to find Albin Says Goodnight anywhere. So I substituted Albin and the Magic Wand which I found on Open Library. It is by the same author and in the same series, so I counted it since I cannot find the other book and do not believe it even exists!

[~Calyre~]

The listopia list needs a clean up. About 75 books needs to be removed. The listology URL address no longer works.