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Challenge Archive > The Jumanji Challenge! June 2015 - Sign-ups and Questions

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message 801: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
If you've posted reviews since I did the last count half an hour ago then those won't be included in these scores...


message 802: by Sarah Elizabeth (last edited Jun 25, 2015 09:38AM) (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Current Team Scores:



__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted


Team Z.___|_39____|__210___|____33,474__|__416.37__|__897
Team A.___|_35____|__218___|____36,091__|__433.45__|__819
Team N.___|_26____|__126___|____25,723__|__280.61__|__679
Team U.___|_20____|__128___|____24,799__|__271.99__|__674
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team I.___|_14____|__122___|____24,482__|__258.41__|__536
Team J.___|_22____|___76___|____22,662__|__211.31__|__414
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__
Team Alan_|_14____|___34___|____13,450__|__115.25__|__



message 803: by Anna 'Bookbuyer' (new)

Anna 'Bookbuyer' (bookbuyer) | 22764 comments Sarah wrote: "Okay guys, I've been working on this for ages, trying to find a fair way to adjust the points to account for the fact that some teams have members who aren't participating much, and other teams hav..."

TY Sarah. I know that must have been hard and time consuming. We appreciate all the hard work you do for the group. ^-^


message 804: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Thank you ☺ I just want to keep things fair ☺


message 805: by Heather (new)

Heather | 10157 comments Where could I put Prodigy you guys? Anyone's suggestions would help :)


message 806: by [deleted user] (new)

Heather wrote: "Where could I put Prodigy you guys? Anyone's suggestions would help :)"

by Marie Lu?

Something that flies
fantasy
romance


message 807: by Tati (new)

Tati Prodigy could work for set in the future, romance, fantasy, perhaps teammate's initial, something that flies on the cover, trees on the cover (an alternative edition has trees on the background)


message 808: by Heather (new)

Heather | 10157 comments Thanks guys!


message 809: by Adriana (last edited Jun 25, 2015 12:28PM) (new)

Adriana | 3733 comments Thanks Sarah for the update (: ~ I don't know if you saw, but I read The Mysterious Benedict Society (The Mysterious Benedict Society, #1) by Trenton Lee Stewart for orphan section for game #3.


message 810: by Twila (new)

Twila | 935 comments Hey guys? Since you get 2 buddy points if you read a book bigger than 450 pages, could you get a third if you read a book bigger than 900?


message 811: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
We haven't done that so far, but it's something that we could consider in future challenges.


message 812: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Adriana wrote: "Thanks Sarah for the update (: ~ I don't know if you saw, but I read The Mysterious Benedict Society (The Mysterious Benedict Society, #1) by Trenton Lee Stewart for orphan section for game #3."

Sorry, it must have gotten missed. I'll fix it ☺


message 813: by Adriana (new)

Adriana | 3733 comments Thanks Sarah (:


message 814: by [deleted user] (new)

Sarah how are the points and scores working? Some of us are a little confused about the total points and points adjusted.


message 815: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
The adjusted scores are based on how many books have been read by the team as a whole over the course of the year so far, as some teams have an advantage over others - some people are faster readers, some people are slow readers, and some people have more people in their team, or team members who have read very little. It was the only way I could take all of those things into account. It's nowhere near perfect though.


message 816: by Noella (new)

Noella (kookiemonstar) | 3613 comments Berit wrote: "Great job to everybody!
A huge THANK YOU!!! Two are amazing moderator SARAH!!!
I'm in a lot of groups, and do a lot of challenges, and nobody else puts in the amount of time she does on this! Most ..."


That's what I love about this group. Thanks Sarah :)


message 817: by Noella (new)

Noella (kookiemonstar) | 3613 comments Lindsey wrote: "Sarah how are the points and scores working? Some of us are a little confused about the total points and points adjusted."

Hmm I'm a bit confused how Team A got pushed down from first place and Z is now ahead with 80 points (based on 1000=5 points that's like 16k pages ahead now?)


message 818: by Christina (new)

Christina | 4293 comments Hey Sarah
I know I'm stirring the pot but can we get a breakdown of the calculations? If it isn't too much trouble Thanks!


message 819: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Total scores are calculated based on (pages/200)+buddy points+points earned = total.

Each teams total is then divided by the total number of books read so far this YEAR by each team. I've done it this way rather than dividing by the number of players in each team, because it's fairer than counting someone who maybe only reads 10 books a year, the same as someone who reads 200.

The numbers of books read this year for each team are:
Team J - 510
Team U - 403
Team M - 441
Team A - 529
Team N - 413
Team I - 482
Team Z - 464

Ranked:
Team A - 529
Team J - 510
Team I - 482
Team Z - 464
Team M - 441
Team N - 413
Team U - 403


Originally when I made the teams, I tried to keep this number fairly even, but with changes to teams they have gotten unfairly split. Team A. and Team J. have a massive advantage over say Team U. This has happened so drastically for Team A, because Kysa was replaced with Markus, who has read 100 books more than she had.


So, exact calculations -
Team J = 211.31 / 510 = 0.414 So I removed the 0. to make things simpler = 414

and so on.

The fact that Team Z are ahead of you by 78 points by the adjusted scores doesn't mean that you will have to read 78 more books, or 16,000 pages, because of the way it's been calculated.

Surely you can see though, that a team with members who are able to read lots of books has an advantage over teams who have members who aren't able to read as many books?

I did try adjusting the points based on how many members are in each team, Team Z currently only have 5 team members compared to the other teams 6, but that wasn't fair because it doesn't take into account how fast people on each team read, and there are some fast readers on team z. I did say earlier in the challenge that I might need o divide by the number of people in the teams for exactly that reason. However, when I did the numbers, Team A. came out a lot worse off than doing things this way, which I feel is fairer.


message 820: by Christina (new)

Christina | 4293 comments Thanks for the breakdown Sarah.
It's good that we don't have to read 18k pages to get back on top. I will be doing some calculations. Team A might still have a chance :)


message 821: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
The best way to get back on top is to work on completing whole sections and games to get the bonus points. Those bonus points will make a big difference.


message 822: by Heather (new)

Heather | 10157 comments I can't wait to finally finish a game!


message 823: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Another way to look at it is... if I were to move 1 player from team Judy to Team Z., who has read 60 books, and would therefore make teams A and Z even... Team Z would have 476.41 points total, compared to Team A's 447.04, and that's without any extra bonuses for completing sections.


message 824: by Christina (new)

Christina | 4293 comments Cool
I could definitely see how we had an advantage with an extra member


message 825: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Current Team Scores:



__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted


Team Z.___|_43____|__213___|____34,567__|__428.83__|__942
Team A.___|_35____|__220___|____38,409__|__447.04__|__845
Team N.___|_27____|__127___|____26,147__|__284.73__|__689
Team U.___|_20____|__130___|____25,449__|__277.24__|__687
Team I.___|_14____|__141___|____27,839__|__294.19__|__610
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241



message 826: by Heather (new)

Heather | 10157 comments Dang we are falling way behind


message 827: by Tati (new)

Tati I'd better get to writing those pending reviews


message 828: by Berit☀️✨ (new)

Berit☀️✨  (berittalksbooks) Sarah, thanks for explaining that, not that I get it, but that is because I'm not very good at math. Hopefully Christina can figure that out, my only problem is this has never been done before, and it would really have helped out teams I was on in the past., So I guess I'm just thinking why now, why not before? You don't even need to answer that question, I just wanted you to know where I was coming from :-)


message 829: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
I didn't think of it before. Previously I've given points to compensate for missing members, but because of the way this challenge accumulates points, it's not fair to do that. I could give 8 points, but then those 8 points if from an actual player might have completed a section or two, earning more bonus points.

I mean I could have just divided points by the number of people in each team, which I did say about previously, but you'd have been a lot worse off that way.


message 830: by Berit☀️✨ (new)

Berit☀️✨  (berittalksbooks) You just can't win, and you just can't please everybody :-) don't mind me, it's all good


message 831: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
If I done it based on number of players, or if I'd added someone to team z, you'd have actually been worse off to be honest.


message 832: by Sarah Elizabeth (last edited Jun 26, 2015 09:01AM) (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Current Team Scores:



__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted


Team Z.___|_43____|__213___|____34,567__|__428.83__|__924
Team A.___|_37____|__221___|____38,937__|__452.68__|__855
Team N.___|_27____|__130___|____27,354__|__293.77__|__711
Team U.___|_20____|__130___|____25,449__|__277.24__|__687
Team I.___|_14____|__141___|____27,839__|__294.19__|__610
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241



message 833: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Current Team Scores:



__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted


Team Z.___|_43____|__215___|____35,118__|__433.59__|__934
Team A.___|_37____|__221___|____38,937__|__452.68__|__855
Team N.___|_28____|__131___|____27,642__|__297.21__|__719
Team U.___|_20____|__131___|____25,833__|__280.16__|__695
Team I.___|_14____|__142___|____28,143__|__296.71__|__615
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241



message 834: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Current Team Scores:



__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted


Team Z.___|_43____|__215___|____35,118__|__433.59__|__934
Team A.___|_37____|__232___|____39,259__|__465.29__|__879
Team N.___|_30____|__132___|____28,218__|__303.09__|__733
Team U.___|_20____|__132___|____25,933__|__281.66__|__698
Team I.___|_14____|__142___|____28,143__|__296.71__|__615
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team Judy_|_34____|__144___|____30,853__|__332.26__|__393
Team Alan_|_14____|___35___|____13,692__|__117.46__|__294
Team J.___|_22____|___81___|____24,638__|__123.19__|__241



message 835: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Roughly 96 hours to go!!


message 836: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Current Team Scores:



__________|_Buddy_|__Points__|__Pages__|__Total__|__Points__|__
__________|_Reads_|__Earned__|__Read__|________|__adjusted


Team Z.___|_43____|__218___|____36,528__|__443.64__|__956
Team A.___|_40____|__236___|____41,230__|__482.15__|__911
Team N.___|_30____|__132___|____28,218__|__303.09__|__733
Team U.___|_20____|__133___|____26,547__|__285.73__|__709
Team I.___|_14____|__149___|____30,123__|__313.61__|__650
Team M.__|_33____|___93___|____25,715__|__254.57__|__577
Team J.___|_23____|___97___|____25,714__|__248.57__|__487
Team Judy_|_38____|__149___|____33,120__|__352.60__|__417
Team Alan_|_14____|___36___|____13,948 __|__119.74__|__300



message 837: by Neha (new)

Neha (neha71580) | 528 comments Wow dude. This is one heck of a game! I've been enjoying a lot while cleaning off my to-read list. Just wanted to say thanks Sarah, it's really appreciative the work you put in there! :)


message 838: by Heather (new)

Heather | 10157 comments It has been quite a fun month that is for sure!


message 839: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
Glad you guys have enjoyed it ☺ Thanks Neha ☺


message 840: by Heather (new)

Heather | 10157 comments I can't wait to see the final stats to see if a team miraculously wins!


message 841: by [deleted user] (new)

Thanks Sarah for so much with this challenge.

so I believe that I just have to read Undone by Cat Clarke for romance than I would have completed each description. Once I finish that can reread some of the descriptions to help my team more?


message 842: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
I haven't got you down as reading a horror book yet, have I missed that one?


message 843: by Sarah Elizabeth (new)

Sarah Elizabeth (bookworm_sarah) | 91107 comments Mod
But yes, once you've done horror and romance you can start again ☺


message 844: by [deleted user] (new)

Sarah wrote: "I haven't got you down as reading a horror book yet, have I missed that one?"

Just submitted it. Was writing the review.


message 845: by Berit☀️✨ (new)

Berit☀️✨  (berittalksbooks) Lindsay, I need to give you mass props, being able to do so many buddy reads to fit the descriptions! Very impressive!!!
However, I wouldn't mind if you stopped reading about now ;-)


message 846: by Heather (new)

Heather | 10157 comments Woah if I could ask how many books have you completed so far?


message 847: by Berit☀️✨ (new)

Berit☀️✨  (berittalksbooks) Well, she's almost finished the game all by herself!


message 848: by Heather (new)

Heather | 10157 comments How many descriptions are there for the whole game? Lol


message 849: by Berit☀️✨ (new)

Berit☀️✨  (berittalksbooks) 37


message 850: by Heather (new)

Heather | 10157 comments Holy cow!


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