Divergent Trilogy by Veronica Roth -> Restarting July 21st, 2022

[Dr. Andy]

Alaina wrote: "OKAY I FINALLY READ A BOOK! Thank god for being sick? Right?

Chapter 2: [spoilers removed]
Chapter 8: [spoilers removed]
Chapter 20: [spoilers removed]
Finished: [spo..."

WOW FINALLY

[Dr. Andy]

Ch. 3 (view spoiler)[ I'm not sure what I would've picked with the aptitude test. I'd like to think I would be divergent, but I know I'd definitely be erudite. I wonder what results Caleb got on the test? (hide spoiler)]
Ch.10 (view spoiler)[I hate Eric. I wish he was dangled over the chasm! Also Peter, Molly and Drew are such fucking assholes, I hope they get their comeuppance. Bitches (hide spoiler)]
Ch. 22 (view spoiler)[ Wtf Al!? I can't believe he would betray Tris like this. I seriously love Four tho, he is bae <3 (hide spoiler)]Finished (view spoiler)[ Well fuck, both parents dead in the attack. And they sacrificed their lives for Tris. That's gonna be some killer fucking guilt. Also watching Tris and Four fight made me want to cry. (hide spoiler)]

[Alaina]

Andrea wrote: "Alaina wrote: "OKAY I FINALLY READ A BOOK! Thank god for being sick? Right?

Chapter 2: [spoilers removed]
Chapter 8: [spoilers removed]
Chapter 20: [spoilers removed]..."

hahahaha girl it took me forever because I kept forgetting to read it!! so many books.. so little time

[Alaina]

Andrea wrote: "
Ch. 3 [spoilers removed]
Ch.10 [spoilers removed]
Ch. 22 [spoilers removed]"

THEY ARE GOALS! I ALSO HATED EVERYONE YOU HATED.

[Alaina]

Chapter 7: (view spoiler)[Okay, I laughed so much when Tris was on that serum but I felt bad for her as well. I also get why she choked too but I like that four (sorry can't call him tobias!) calls her out on her shit.. but I don't think he totally understands why it happened. (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 21: (view spoiler)[UGH PETER. Why does he always betray them.. also why do they always start to "trust" them?? Bunch of idiots if you ask me. (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 34: (view spoiler)[...ugh, why? WHY? Tris better not die.. or I'll murder everyone in this book! (hide spoiler)]
Finished: (view spoiler)[Okay...shit definitely hit the fan. I have so many questions..especially with this whole amanda thing. First off, EDITH? What choose that name? Why not Rachel, Sasha, or something else? Anything else would've been better. Then there's the whole last name.. PRIOR. As in Tris's last name guys! So that means this bitch is famous right? Connected to the founders and shit. Oh man, I need the third book STAT! (hide spoiler)]

[Dr. Andy]

Alaina wrote: "Andrea wrote: "
Ch. 3 [spoilers removed]
Ch.10 [spoilers removed]
Ch. 22 [spoilers removed]"

THEY ARE GOALS! I ALSO HATED EVERYONE YOU HATED."

YAY #hategoals

[Dr. Andy]

Ch. 8 (view spoiler)[ The amity are kind of weird. Idk if I could've been in that faction. I'm too loud. But that peace serum shit was hilarious. Even tho Tris should've been kicked out for fighting with Peter. I really fucking hate him, I wish he'd get stabbed in the eye. I feel like nothing really happened while they were in Amity, like why did they even go there in the first place? Also Tris needs to stop keeping secrets (hide spoiler)]
Ch. 21 (view spoiler)[ The truth serum was not fun. But Tris seriously needed to tell Cristina and Four about Will. She also needs to get over her gun issues. I get why she's PSTD-ing about it but this is not the time for this shit. Four is also right, she's being reckless and trying to kill herself. I'm glad Four gave Marcus a taste of his medicine. (hide spoiler)]
Ch. 35 (view spoiler)[ Ugh I don't trust Evelyn or the factionless. Something is happening. Also, is Tris really gonna die!? I don't want her to die. Tris was so stupid to surrender herself to Jeanine. I'm kind of glad Four went too. (hide spoiler)]
Finished (view spoiler)[ Well Tori has fucking lost some of her shit. At least they ended up not needing Jeanine to find the lost info. And this is crazy!! The divergent are genetic mutations, this is seriously fascinating. I have a feeling Tris is still going to be running around tho cause no way she'll let the Dauntless nor the Factionless become tyrants. (hide spoiler)]

[Nicole]

The Transfer (view spoiler)[ I really enjoyed seeing how Tobias came to be Four. To see the part with the fears. I really liked how he basically chose dauntless just to spite his horrible father. I liked learning more about Four before Tris was thrown into the mix. I also really liked reading more about Tori she was such a glazed over character before so I like to see her more. (hide spoiler)]

The Initiate (view spoiler)[ I understand so much more about Eric and Four now. We get to see more of Four with the tattoos, how he struggles to make friends, and his dauntless training. I think this story is about learning of the inner struggles of the former Tobias turned Four. He really struggles. Amar seems like a true friend to Four, I love seeing some of the characters we know from the trilogy and learn more about them. And way to go Four for doing so well in your Initiation :) (hide spoiler)]

The Son (view spoiler)[ I really didn’t like this one. I feel like Four was just an ass. I mean knowing more about him knowing about Jeannine and not saying anything. So not cool. (hide spoiler)]

The Traitor (view spoiler)[ FINALLY some Tris, but it still pisses me off considering I know what happens in the last book so I don’t even like to read about her anymore! I did like to see some from Four’s POV and his journey learning all about Tris. But knowing he loves her is enough for me I guess (hide spoiler)]

[Dr. Andy]

25% (view spoiler)[ It feels like it took them forever to get out of the damn city ugh. I love how Tris can get out of every serum injected into her. It's super fascinating. (hide spoiler)]
50% (view spoiler)[ So divergence is only a sign of being "genetically pure", how fascinating. I can say I wasn't expecting this turn in the series arc. I hate how Tobias thinks he's damaged now. Plus all this BS drama between him and Tris is annoying af (hide spoiler)]
75% (view spoiler)[ Okay I don't like the Bureau or how they operate. The experiment is not worth all of those peoples' memories. Also Nita's plan was stupid and I wish Four hadn't jumped into that. He really isn't thinking clearly after being labeled a "GD". Plus it's such a stupid label, looking at Marcus who is divergent, clearly there's things that go wrong with GPs and GDs regardless. (hide spoiler)]
Finished (view spoiler)[ UGH damn you Tris!! WHY DID YOU HAVE TO SACRIFICE YOURSELF I HATE YOU, but damn if isn't so realistic to her personality. I admire Roth for being able to do that (hide spoiler)]

[Alaina]

Ch. 20: (view spoiler)[LOL BUHBYE MARCUS! (hide spoiler)]
Ch. 40: (view spoiler)[How come nothing really ever happens to Peter? I mean.. besides him getting the shit kicked out of him. But seriously.. he pretended to take the serum and that's that? oh hell no, shove that thing into him! (hide spoiler)]
Ch. 55: (view spoiler)[lowkey agree with Four's anger.. like why did Tris have to die? Why couldn't her brother's lame ass die? UGH, I'm so mad right now! (hide spoiler)]
Finished: (view spoiler)[THAT EPILOGUE GUYS! SO MANY TEARS OF SADNESS AND JOY. UGH HE IS MOVING ON AND I'M SAD. Like no, be sad that your girl died. forever. no happiness man. (hide spoiler)]

[Marissa]

25%
(view spoiler)[It is funny how Tris is concerned of the Factionless's idea of destroying the factions. She thought it would be chaotic, and yet that is how we live in real-life. I am trying to decide if the Factionless's motives are good or bad. Is the reason they want to get rid of the factions a personal vendetta or for the greater good? (hide spoiler)]

[Marissa]

50%
(view spoiler)[I find the characters have become pretty unlikable in the book. I like how Roth gives them flaws, but at the same time I don’t think there is a good balance between good and bad qualities. Tris is kind of annoying, and if she wasn’t the protagonist, I don’t think I would like her. (hide spoiler)]

[Marissa]

75%
(view spoiler)[Tris really needs to think things through before just jumping into actions. Going to the Erudite headquarters and facing Jeanine without an alternate plan was dumb. It was basically a suicide mission and offered no guarantee that they would stop killing people after her death. She is really lucky that Peter decided to help her and Tobias out, otherwise they both would be dead. (hide spoiler)]

[Marissa]

100%
(view spoiler)[I think this was a somewhat strong second book. It left me wanting to begin the third book! Although Tris was still a bit of an annoying character, I think it made her more realistic. She wasn’t perfect, and she often internally struggled with making decisions. I’m also glad that she finally told the truth about Will’s death, and Christina was eventually able to understand what happened and forgive her. Also, Tris and Tobias are one of the cutest couples in YA literature. (hide spoiler)]

[Felicia]

********** RESTARTING MARCH 12TH 2019 **********

[Jammin Jenny]

30%: (view spoiler)[I love this series. So in this book, Beatrice Prior takes an aptitude test that shows she is divergent. She is warned not to tell anyone. She decides to go to Dauntless, not her home group of Abnigation. She discovers that her mother used to be dauntless too. She goes with a dauntless born to ride on a zipline over the city and is then more accepted by the dauntless group. (hide spoiler)]
70%: (view spoiler)[ Tris has been through Four's fear landscape and realizes he came from Abnigation too. Now she's with the Erudite leader who is questioning why her results were input by hand and something was wrong with her results. (hide spoiler)]
90%: (view spoiler)[All the dauntless initiates were injected with some sort of serum to make them mindless killing machines. But because Four and Tris are divergent, they are able to maintain their minds. But then Eric threatens Four and they realize they are immune, then the leader of the Erudites makes Four a killing machine with a mind. (hide spoiler)]
100% Re-read this book again in March. I love the concept of having five different factions that have their own unique purpose. But as with everything, absolute power corrupts - the Erudites use their superior intellectual position to try and take control. Love the interaction between Tris and Four.

[Jammin Jenny]

20% (view spoiler)[ Tris struggles with a decision on whether or not to execute Caleb for his actions with the Erudites. They escape from the Factionless HQ and are heading for the fence to see what's on the other side.(view spoiler)[ (hide spoiler)] (hide spoiler)]

[Betsy]

1-25%
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It really bothers me that characters think that Al is weak for showing emotion. There's a reason he's in Dauntless, right? Sincerity, vulnerability, feelings... they may be awkward for others to handle, but it takes courage to trust others with the innermost parts of you.
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25-50%
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Are dreams, nightmares, our version of simulations? Kinda morose, but it's interesting to think about.
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50-75%
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My heart breaks for Al. It's hard to try to make yourself fit into a place you don't belong. It's hard to try to forgive yourself for hurting others. Four's trust in Tris is awesome. I like that he sees her as strong and capable. However, it is a little bothersome that he's ok flirting with his student. That part really bugs me. Let's not romanticize teacher/ student, boss/ coworker different power level relationships.
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75-100%
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I can relate to Tris in so many ways. I love my family so much, and our beliefs are often very different. Like Tris, I grew up in household in which you wore modest clothing, put others first, and children were best seen and not heard. Yet, as different as we are, we still love each other. My heart hurt so much when her parents passed. As awful as that pain is, it will probably be easier for her to move forward with what she has to do in the future without much of a past to go back to.
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[Betsy]

1-25%
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Truth serum would freak me out too. It's like everyone has an invisibility cloak and you're just going about your business as normal, or everyone can read your thoughts but you can't read theirs. Tris is handling Four's confession well... that she's the reason he stayed in Dauntless. While it is romantic, dang that's a lot of pressure.
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25-50%
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I like that these past few chapters we really get to see Tris evaluating and making choices of her own. If the other characters could see her inner thoughts like we can, they'd understand that even the Dauntless are human and have to live with their actions. They're still human.
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50-75%
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Tris and Four's relationship is cute. I'm glad they're finally opening up and sharing things though... that whole "I'm not going to communicate" thing was really frustrating.
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75-100%
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What I love about this series is that it is all about understanding that we're all more similar than not; the world is a better place when we try to understand each other and appreciate each other's differences. And that ending - who is this Prior? So many questions! Even though I've read this series before, I can't remember what happens next. I can't wait for the next book!
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[Betsy]

1-25%
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I love that we get to see things from Four's perspective! I love how much Four loves Tris. I'd be really creeped out if my every move was watched. I mean, we're already on the way there anyways with our information everywhere. Some things should just stay private though...
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25-50%
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Four and Tris' relationship isn't perfect, but they're working it out. Four should trust Tris, as her instincts are often correct. She could have been a little more understanding though; Four is going from trainer to non-Divergent awful-parentage normal person.
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50-75%
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A realistic relationship in a YA book is so nice to see.... it's not perfect, they have to choose each other time after time. I feel for all of the characters in the books... so many losses in such a short period of time. Grief is such a hard emotion, because you're dealing with the finality of another's life. Through this grief, though, we see some amazing perseverance and grit from these wonderfully imperfect characters.
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75-100%
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This book really stayed with me. There's not a happy ending; Tris dies. She sacrifices herself (which is a really Tris thing to do), but leaves Four behind. She knows how hard it is to be left behind, and yet she leaves Four behind. It's hard to forgive her for it, but I understand her decision. I really liked Four and Tris' relationship, which is probably why it was hard to accept this as their ending. Still a fantastic series to read, though.
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[Betsy]

The Transfer
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Four has a little spunk in him - I like it! Nobody should have to grow up in such an awful environment. His dad is not only physically abusive, but the fact that he actually believes that this is for Tobias' good is a sick kind of emotional abuse as well.
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The Initiate
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Janeen has a background story in here... she's afraid of not being able to control, not being able to know everything. We get to know a little more about Lamar and how close he and Four were. Four's mom on the train was interesting... I wonder when they meet up?
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The Son
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I knew Four was amazing, but it's even more awesome to know that he went through the training portion and then, at the last part of the training for the leadership position, turned it down. Eric's obvious appointment into Dauntless by the Erudite is something that was alluded to in the books, but really gets cemented in this chapter.
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The Traitor/ First Jumper/ Careful/ You Look Good
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It's interesting to see how much Four was involved with getting information behind the scenes. I wonder how he got away with monitoring Max, and talking openly about Eric with Max. Dauntless leadership seemed to want obedient daredevils, not mindfully courageous leaders with a need for justice.
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[Aly]

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[Kira]

Chapter 1 – 8 : (view spoiler)[Dauntless is and always will be my favourite faction lol, I felt relieved when bothe Caleb and Beatrice chose factions other than that because personally I can’t ever imagine anyone being a part of Abnegation voluntarily (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 9 – 16 : (view spoiler)[Beatrice is clever and brave and has a great presence of mind, I shudder thinking about her in Abnegation. The moment she realises that her mother used to be Dauntless is epic and her fight with Molly is just……….AMAZING! Ugh I hate Molly, Peter and Drew for bullying her so much and I also feel bad for Al, he seems depressed (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 17 – 24 : (view spoiler)[Al’s death made me sad…I mean I know that what he did was so wrong on every level but come on…I wish he had help or atleast someone to talk to. I honestly don’t remember who is pulling Eric’s strings so that mystery element is intact for me and I love it. The simulations fascinated me and I keep wanting to read more about the serum and how they work (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 25 – 32 : (view spoiler)[When Four and Tris go through the simulation together, that right there is my favourite part probably in the whole series – it just feels so intimate and trusting, I adore both of them. Anddddd Erudite’s leader is the one behind all of it, I wonder how it will play out. Molly and Drew got kicked out as well so YAYYYY (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 33 – End : (view spoiler)[The simulation sequence with the Dauntless is so well penned out and executed, I love the details about how, when and where. Tris’ parents sacrificing themselves to help her was sad. I liked how they were all so very different from each other but came together at the end to achieve a common goal. Four confessing his feelings to Tris was just a little bit cheesy but hell I loved this book! (hide spoiler)]