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LGBT etc.
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How many genders are there?
also, Ray, the Bible does NOT depend on the reader's interpretation. 2 Peter 1:20 KJV — Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
This means that all these passages only have ONE meaning.
no, obviously transgender wasn't a word till recently. that doesn't mean it wasn't addressed. first off, the Bible is more than 3000 years old, though the Gospels and Epistles were created 2000 years ago.
secondly, they are not mistranslated. I already stated that you can look at the interlinear to the original Greek/ Hebrew. It proves you wrong.
thirdly, you aren't taking a "deeper look, " you are twisting Scripture.
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2 Peter 1:20 KJV — Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
This means that all ..."
But we don't know the TRUE real meaning.
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first off, the Bible is more than 3000 years old, though the Gospels and Epistles were created 2000 ye..."
Actually, there is proof they were. Take the word "Helper" used to describe Eve for example. The ACTUAL Hebrew word would translate closer to "Rescuer", but since the guy translating was a huge misogynistic jerk, he make it helper instead.
I just gave you a whole bunch of verses, with a whole bunch of different reasons why they aren't just misinterpreted.💀also, your said the Bible's "message" depends on how the reader interpreted it. message isn't the same thing as the reader's opinion.
➶ ｡˚ ° Pierce Samuel ˋ°•*⁀➷ wrote: "Ethan wrote: "now it gets kinda gray for me cause it's kinda hard figuring WHAT laws are not needed anymore. the ones listed as abominations will still remain as abominations, as God doesn't change..."werent u the one that agreeed with me about not having to follow the old law after Jesus rose from the dead?
it actually means more like "succour," or really just "help. "plus, doesn't the Bible also refer to God as our help, too?
yes and that includes ten commandments and all that but what about the Sabbath and not touching dead animals and not eating pork?
well, Ray, you should have said that. you didn't say that the first time.
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Yeah, I was making an exaggeration lol
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plus, doesn't the Bible also refer to God as our help, too?"
Absolutely, but when the first woman is categorized as a "helper" instead of her own independent person. AND the translater is LITERALLY misogynistic, I'll let you do the math.
could you expound on your point on the translator being misogynistic? also, that's the literal interpretation, sooo
also helper literally implies that the person they're helping can't do it on their own. that's not an insult.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/5Vv-E3n1ZT... This video explains it well!!
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Watch the video I just sent.
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yeeaah it does look he was misogynistic 😅 but the point still stands that translated directly from Hebrew, it does come pretty close to help, rather than rescue. again, God was described as a Help.
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Oh kinda like how white isn't a color, more so the absence of such?
➶ ｡˚ ° Pierce Samuel ˋ°•*⁀➷ wrote: "adrienne ♡ wrote: "idk I think two? but only bc I wouldn't really call using they/them or neo pronouns it's own GENDER, I would say it's more of an identity. yk what I mean? like boy/girl are gende..."wait are you being sarcastic or genuine bc honestly idk I just feel like the point of non binary is that it isn't in a category, so saying it's a gender turns it into a binary thing, if that makes sense idk😭
ray pines ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆ wrote: "adrienne ♡ wrote: "idk I think two? but only bc I wouldn't really call using they/them or neo pronouns it's own GENDER, I would say it's more of an identity. yk what I mean? like boy/girl are gende..."no totally I think I get what you're saying. but yeah like what I said to Pierce, I feel like the point of non binary is that it isn't in a category, so saying it's a gender turns it into a binary thing, if that makes sense idk😭 but no I totally get what you're saying and that makes sense fs
no Ray, you didn't. as I said, you did not mention opinion the first time. look back dude. there's a difference between message and opinion.
"Pierce is doing his own research though and it is leading him to his own conclusions because the Bible's MESSAGE DOES DEPEND ON HOW THE READER INTERPRETED IT. That's how we have groups like Jehovah's Witness and the Mormons and Catholics and Protestants and Fundamentalists and so on" that's what you said bro.
and meaning and message is the same thing
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No I'm being genuine lol!
you then said this"yeah... funny thing about that... everyone has a different opinion of that one meaning
so basically only the original authors and this God that is spoken of would know the original meaning of what was written, everybody else just guesses"
we weren't talking about opinion, we were taking about what the Bible truly means. not just like, "this is what I think the Bible says!" "oh cool! this is what I think it is!" we're having a debate to find the true meaning of the verses.
my problem is that you were intellectually inconsistent. look at the comments I just brought back.
sounded like you were just expounding on what you said rather than correcting an error.
like next time could you actually contribute something to the conversation? you contributed nothing.
bro this is a debate group😂 you wanna say something? expect to get replied.
I'm not the one who wants the discussion to end, Ray💀you're the one that was cussing me out😂 talk about civil
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you're the one that was cussing me out😂 talk about civil"
Then why do you keep engaging if you want it to end?
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I think 4, yes. But I think it would be Male, Female, Non-binary, and Gender Queer.
personally i fee like trans is te giant umbrella then theres nonbinary under it with gednerflui, agender, etc
pierce did you even read what I said😂 i said I wasn't the one who wanted it to end anyway I'm done you guys lost.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night, mate.
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I'm actually in AP English, and a published author, but I love the enthusiasm <3
Love how we are resorting to "insults"
still failed to read💀 I got 1st place in an English tournament last year
ye mb guys I take back all of that I'll try to be more professional
sure buddy you haven't said a word at all this discussion.
yes exactly let's start the discussion then
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Then try to capitalize the beginning of your sentences <3 And sure, you may be good at reading, but being good at reading and being good at media literacy and reading between the lines are two different things.
Hello...?? You are actually making zero sense to me. Because I DON'T answer every question w/ ..."
Me when transgender people aren't mentioned in The Bible, so they must not exist (Transgender was not a word until more recent years)