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Should a Person be Able to Kill Their Rapist in Self-Defense?
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Austin wrote: "Lol are we assuming before or after or just in general? There is a whole of assumptions going on here lol."DEFININATELY NOT BEFORE
just like "man this guy looks super weird and is followed me *stabs him*"
meanwhile the guy just wanted to ask you for directions
Griffin wrote: "Are these your opinions mini? Or are you just countering I can’t tell 😭😭😭"Lol I'm countering I do that all the time, you can find out my real opinions by asking me on my topic :P
MidnightButterfly wrote: "So if someone steals from you, you should kill them? Theft?"no not that
Call the cops, yes
murder, no
ˏˋ°•*⁀➷Chadlotteˏˋ°•*⁀➷ (Semi- Hiatus) wrote: "Austin wrote: "Lol are we assuming before or after or just in general? There is a whole of assumptions going on here lol."DEFININATELY NOT BEFORE
just like "man this guy looks super weird and is..."
well i mean like if it is about to happen
if it has already happened, might as well wait for trial
✦Artemis Chaos ✦ wrote: "MidnightButterfly wrote: "So if someone steals from you, you should kill them? Theft?"no bcs you can get that item back hopefully and theft is not on the same level of rape. you cant make trauma ..."
so agree
MidnightButterfly wrote: "Griffin wrote: "Are these your opinions mini? Or are you just countering I can’t tell 😭😭😭"Lol I'm countering I do that all the time, you can find out my real opinions by asking me on my topic :P"
ok bcs for a second i was pissed at you TvT
ray :P wrote: "MidnightButterfly wrote: "So if someone steals from you, you should kill them? Theft?"theft doesn’t inherently cause physical harm
if physical harm is occurring, then you are legally within your ..."
but self defense to what extent, should you kill?
rape is one of the worst crimes in my opinion but i don't think she should be allowed to kill him. punch him or kick his penis or whatever is fine, but i don't think killing him would necessarily be okay
honestly though if someone was trying to rape me i wouldn't bother trying to kill them i would just hurt them enough to get away
honestly though if someone was trying to rape me i wouldn't bother trying to kill them i would just hurt them enough to get away
I think, that she should be allowed to fight back, and if she accidentally kills him, than that's not 100% okay, but the police should understand. So like first run, then hit and if he doesn't get away, then max. Like I am a Christian, so I would definitely pray for help.
rape is the only unexusable crime. killing could have been self defense. stealing could be because someone is starving. but rape? no excuse. that's why I totally believe that a woman should be allowed to do anything to her rapist in order to fight back, even kill him
Sai :) wrote: "rape is one of the worst crimes in my opinion but i don't think she should be allowed to kill him. punch him or kick his penis or whatever is fine, but i don't think killing him would necessarily b..."Yes. Thats my main thing actually
However my question is should it be legal if you accidentally kill them? Obviously ( i think) that its illegal and one would be charged but do you still think its okay if its accidental?
if it's accidental it's still not okay but i don't think she should be punished excessively, definitely not more than her rapist would have been
Cassie:) wrote: "I think, that she should be allowed to fight back, and if she accidentally kills him, than that's not 100% okay, but the police should understand. So like first run, then hit and if he doesn't get ..."i agree!
ashes and diamonds wrote: "self defense is self defense. if killing them is what it takes to keep yourself safe, absolutely"preach i agree
✦Artemis Chaos ✦ wrote: "MidnightButterfly wrote: "Also this is not black and white. What about forgiveness? What about redemption?"i will never forgive a rapist. they know what they did and i hope they burn in hell for it"
realest answer ever. forgiveness for rape is not real.
MidnightButterfly ~ exam semi hiatus wrote: "How about maritial rape?"marital rape is still rape. unfortunately, many women dont consider it to be so.
yes, 100%.if it comes to it, then sure. but if she has a way to escape without harming the rapist, sure as well.
but if i got raped. i would 100% kill him/her if i had the chance. most rapists get away with rape too.
Yes, a woman should be able to kill her rapist in self-defense if her life, bodily autonomy, or safety is under immediate threat. Rape is a violent, deeply traumatic violation, and in the moment of an attack, the victim has the right to use reasonable force—including lethal force—if it’s the only way to stop it. Just as we defend the right to self-defense in cases of robbery or attempted murder, we must extend that same right to victims of sexual violence.And let’s be clear—this isn’t just about women. Men also experience rape, though it’s often overlooked or dismissed. A powerful example is the Menendez brothers, who claimed years of sexual abuse by their father, which ultimately led to them killing their parents.
Rape has nothing to do with sexual desire, it’s an act of violence used as a show of power.
ray pines ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆ wrote: "MidnightButterfly wrote: "So if someone steals from you, you should kill them? Theft?"theft doesn’t inherently cause physical harm
if physical harm is occurring, then you are legally within your ..."
But yet they sometimes charge women with murder if they end up killing the person in self defense. It's stupid and the justice system sucks
Austin wrote: "Well think of the family of the person who broke into your house too. That burglar had a mom and maybe it was their circumstances that made them break into your house. After all why would you equat..."well, if the person had broken into your house to rape you, I don't think their circumstance should matter all that much, rape is rape
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⋆⭑⚝★ Kipp ★⚝⭑⋆ wrote: "Austin wrote: "Well think of the family of the person who broke into your house too. That burglar had a mom and maybe it was their circumstances that made them break into your house. After all why ..."
Agreed. Although, it might cause the person being r@ped some trauma later on from k!lling someone.
Agreed. Although, it might cause the person being r@ped some trauma later on from k!lling someone.
Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Agreed. Although, it might cause the person being r@ped some trauma later on from k!lling someone."but if they didnt kill them they'd have truama from being raped, and soooo many others would have to bear that trauma if the rapiest is let go... its a lose, or LOSE situation
I think so but only if you have to not just like if someone slapped you liked if you can defend yourself and get away without killing great that’s what I want but if you can’t and somehow killing is the only option I don’t think your in the wrong
yes you should be able to and honestly it's kind of sickening if you say no. however i do not encourage it in an avoidable scenario. if someone is being sexually assaulted and find themselves in a situation where the choice is them or their rapist, yes, you may use deadly force to protect yourself. however if it is not an imminent threat (in the past) or they are able to overpower and reach guaranteed safety without needing to kill them, i personally do not consider this as falling under necessary self defense
i definitely think you should be able to, especially since Texas has already made abortion punishable by death (and a lot of other states in the US are actually considering it 😭) you can't take away a woman's means to defend herself and then force her to deal with the consequences. as per the argument that it would cause worse trauma than just putting up with being assaulted, that's your personal opinion. yes it would be traumatic, but it's ultimately up to the person who is put in that situation who they want to defend themselves
ash ³³ ᵈᵘ ᵈᵘ ᵈᵘ wrote: "yes you should be able to and honestly it's kind of sickening if you say no. however i do not encourage it in an avoidable scenario. if someone is being sexually assaulted and find themselves in a ..."preach 👏





no bcs you can get that item back hopefully and theft is not on the same level of rape. you cant make trauma go away and you cant get your virginity back