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message 51: by ✦Artemis✦ (new)

✦Artemis✦ | 119 comments MidnightButterfly wrote: "So if someone steals from you, you should kill them? Theft?"

no bcs you can get that item back hopefully and theft is not on the same level of rape. you cant make trauma go away and you cant get your virginity back


message 52: by ✦Artemis✦ (new)

✦Artemis✦ | 119 comments Griffin wrote: "Are these your opinions mini? Or are you just countering I can’t tell 😭😭😭"

fr TvT


˚₊‧⁀➷Chadlotte˚₊‧⁀➷ BANANA LECLERC | 332 comments Austin wrote: "Lol are we assuming before or after or just in general? There is a whole of assumptions going on here lol."

DEFININATELY NOT BEFORE
just like "man this guy looks super weird and is followed me *stabs him*"
meanwhile the guy just wanted to ask you for directions


butterfly is back (barely, mostly on insta) (midnightbutterfly23) | -155 comments Griffin wrote: "Are these your opinions mini? Or are you just countering I can’t tell 😭😭😭"

Lol I'm countering I do that all the time, you can find out my real opinions by asking me on my topic :P


butterfly is back (barely, mostly on insta) (midnightbutterfly23) | -155 comments Faith wrote: "no not stealing"

But rape is stealing?


˚₊‧⁀➷Chadlotte˚₊‧⁀➷ BANANA LECLERC | 332 comments MidnightButterfly wrote: "So if someone steals from you, you should kill them? Theft?"

no not that
Call the cops, yes
murder, no


message 57: by Faith (new)

Faith Fonté (faithers90310) | 115 comments ˏˋ°•*⁀➷Chadlotteˏˋ°•*⁀➷ (Semi- Hiatus) wrote: "Austin wrote: "Lol are we assuming before or after or just in general? There is a whole of assumptions going on here lol."

DEFININATELY NOT BEFORE
just like "man this guy looks super weird and is..."


well i mean like if it is about to happen

if it has already happened, might as well wait for trial


message 58: by Faith (new)

Faith Fonté (faithers90310) | 115 comments ✦Artemis Chaos ✦ wrote: "MidnightButterfly wrote: "So if someone steals from you, you should kill them? Theft?"

no bcs you can get that item back hopefully and theft is not on the same level of rape. you cant make trauma ..."


so agree


message 59: by ✦Artemis✦ (new)

✦Artemis✦ | 119 comments MidnightButterfly wrote: "Griffin wrote: "Are these your opinions mini? Or are you just countering I can’t tell 😭😭😭"

Lol I'm countering I do that all the time, you can find out my real opinions by asking me on my topic :P"


ok bcs for a second i was pissed at you TvT


butterfly is back (barely, mostly on insta) (midnightbutterfly23) | -155 comments ray :P wrote: "MidnightButterfly wrote: "So if someone steals from you, you should kill them? Theft?"

theft doesn’t inherently cause physical harm
if physical harm is occurring, then you are legally within your ..."


but self defense to what extent, should you kill?


message 61: by Sai :), Assistant Moderator (new)

Sai :) (the climate catastrophe is real) | 1506 comments Mod
rape is one of the worst crimes in my opinion but i don't think she should be allowed to kill him. punch him or kick his penis or whatever is fine, but i don't think killing him would necessarily be okay
honestly though if someone was trying to rape me i wouldn't bother trying to kill them i would just hurt them enough to get away


message 62: by Cassie:) (new)

Cassie:) | 336 comments I think, that she should be allowed to fight back, and if she accidentally kills him, than that's not 100% okay, but the police should understand. So like first run, then hit and if he doesn't get away, then max. Like I am a Christian, so I would definitely pray for help.


message 63: by Max (new)

Max | 50 comments rape is the only unexusable crime. killing could have been self defense. stealing could be because someone is starving. but rape? no excuse. that's why I totally believe that a woman should be allowed to do anything to her rapist in order to fight back, even kill him


˚₊‧⁀➷Chadlotte˚₊‧⁀➷ BANANA LECLERC | 332 comments Sai :) wrote: "rape is one of the worst crimes in my opinion but i don't think she should be allowed to kill him. punch him or kick his penis or whatever is fine, but i don't think killing him would necessarily b..."

Yes. Thats my main thing actually
However my question is should it be legal if you accidentally kill them? Obviously ( i think) that its illegal and one would be charged but do you still think its okay if its accidental?


message 65: by Sai :), Assistant Moderator (last edited May 07, 2025 02:32PM) (new)

Sai :) (the climate catastrophe is real) | 1506 comments Mod
if it's accidental it's still not okay but i don't think she should be punished excessively, definitely not more than her rapist would have been


Madelyn (Maddie) (GFB) Cassie:) wrote: "I think, that she should be allowed to fight back, and if she accidentally kills him, than that's not 100% okay, but the police should understand. So like first run, then hit and if he doesn't get ..."

i agree!


ashh ³³ ᵈᵘ ᵈᵘ ᵈᵘ  (adiexe) | 60 comments self defense is self defense. if killing them is what it takes to keep yourself safe, absolutely


message 68: by kitcantspell (new)

kitcantspell ( semi hiatus ) ashes and diamonds wrote: "self defense is self defense. if killing them is what it takes to keep yourself safe, absolutely"

preach i agree


audrey (completely gone rn) | 21 comments ✦Artemis Chaos ✦ wrote: "MidnightButterfly wrote: "Also this is not black and white. What about forgiveness? What about redemption?"

i will never forgive a rapist. they know what they did and i hope they burn in hell for it"


realest answer ever. forgiveness for rape is not real.


audrey (completely gone rn) | 21 comments MidnightButterfly ~ exam semi hiatus wrote: "How about maritial rape?"

marital rape is still rape. unfortunately, many women dont consider it to be so.


message 72: by kitcantspell (new)

kitcantspell ( semi hiatus ) ashes and diamonds wrote: "KIT HI"

ASH HI


message 73: by allywaggy (new)

allywaggy | 4 comments yes, 100%.
if it comes to it, then sure. but if she has a way to escape without harming the rapist, sure as well.
but if i got raped. i would 100% kill him/her if i had the chance. most rapists get away with rape too.


°.*• Evangeline •*.° | 5 comments Yes, a woman should be able to kill her rapist in self-defense if her life, bodily autonomy, or safety is under immediate threat. Rape is a violent, deeply traumatic violation, and in the moment of an attack, the victim has the right to use reasonable force—including lethal force—if it’s the only way to stop it. Just as we defend the right to self-defense in cases of robbery or attempted murder, we must extend that same right to victims of sexual violence.
And let’s be clear—this isn’t just about women. Men also experience rape, though it’s often overlooked or dismissed. A powerful example is the Menendez brothers, who claimed years of sexual abuse by their father, which ultimately led to them killing their parents.

Rape has nothing to do with sexual desire, it’s an act of violence used as a show of power.


message 75: by LulaBean (new)

LulaBean (lulabeanreads) ray pines ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆ wrote: "MidnightButterfly wrote: "So if someone steals from you, you should kill them? Theft?"

theft doesn’t inherently cause physical harm
if physical harm is occurring, then you are legally within your ..."


But yet they sometimes charge women with murder if they end up killing the person in self defense. It's stupid and the justice system sucks


⋆⭑★ Kipp ★⭑⋆ (kipperdoodle) | 645 comments Austin wrote: "Well think of the family of the person who broke into your house too. That burglar had a mom and maybe it was their circumstances that made them break into your house. After all why would you equat..."

well, if the person had broken into your house to rape you, I don't think their circumstance should matter all that much, rape is rape


message 77: by Sky ~take from you like you took from me~, Assistant Moderator (new)

Sky ~take from you like you took from me~ | 378 comments Mod
⋆⭑⚝★ Kipp ★⚝⭑⋆ wrote: "Austin wrote: "Well think of the family of the person who broke into your house too. That burglar had a mom and maybe it was their circumstances that made them break into your house. After all why ..."

Agreed. Although, it might cause the person being r@ped some trauma later on from k!lling someone.


D1bs (kpdh's version)୧ | 78 comments Skybird (Nickname Sky) wrote: "Agreed. Although, it might cause the person being r@ped some trauma later on from k!lling someone."

but if they didnt kill them they'd have truama from being raped, and soooo many others would have to bear that trauma if the rapiest is let go... its a lose, or LOSE situation


message 79: by Kylie (new)

Kylie M ྀིྀིྀིྀིྀི  | 13 comments I think so but only if you have to not just like if someone slapped you liked if you can defend yourself and get away without killing great that’s what I want but if you can’t and somehow killing is the only option I don’t think your in the wrong


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