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In my opinion, I don’t think lgbtq Should be in all kinds of books. Where i’m from, They’re starting to read books with lgbtq content to kindergartners! It’s fine If you’re reading it as an adult or a teenager book, But I don’t think it should be Taught to little kids.
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It’s not being taught it’s being included. I understand if it’s a book about dating but if it’s two moms instead of a dad and mom why is that a problem? That’s just normalizing stuff that needs to be normalized!
Tessie wrote: "Alina wrote: "In my opinion, I don’t think lgbtq Should be in all kinds of books. Where i’m from, They’re starting to read books with lgbtq content to kindergartners! It’s fine If you’re reading it..."Sorry, but that not what I meant 😅. Where I’m from, There now TEACHING it to kids. Like, books about having feelings about the same gender. And books about people having two dads or two moms. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing cause they’re trying to familiarize it, But I don’t think it should be taught to kids at such a young age.
why not? if kids can learn about straight/ heterosexual relationships, why can’t they learn about lgbtq ones?
Well, this is just my opinion. I just think this would be better taught at home. Because your parents might not want their children learn about it the way teachers say. No hate to people that are lgbtq! We all just have different opinions:)
i get that! it’s just that by saying that it’s ’up to the parents’ kind of feels like teaching kids that lgtbq is weird or not okay. by teaching them that it exists and there’s people that feel that way, we can stop kids from growing up to be homophobes and we can also show kids that feel that way that it’s normal. personally, if i knew that being lgbtq was an option early on, i wouldn’t have had to have this whole identity crisis later down the line 😔
It’s not weird! lgbtq is everywhere, so I understand why people would want to teach it earlier.
and also idk how i feel about them having to learn it form parents. especially kids of christian households that re taught it’s so wrong and they’ll go to hell for even thinking about it. (i’m a christian, my parents are homophobic, i’m lgbtq, it sucks 😔✊🏻)
(ty :)) question though, what age would say is ‘appropriate’ to learn about lgbtq?
I guess it depends on what you believe. As I Muslim, I learned about it at age 11. But It varies on what you believe in 🤷♀️
So I’m just going to drop my opinion.I think lgbtq+ is fine in middle school books or in upper elementary school grades (4th to 5th grade) but I feel like it shouldnt be for kids younger than 4th grade. Not because of religious purposes but because sexuality is a deep deep topic. A kids mind is still developing in preschool to 3rd grade, which is why I don’t think religion should be forced upon a child at this time too. During a child’s very young age they should be enjoying life and focusing on their education not getting into deep topics like sexuality, politics, or religion. But if a toddler is reading a book and a gay couple pops up I think it’s fine as long as the kid doesn’t start pondering about sexuality and being transgender (you know cause that’s a toddler they shouldn’t be even learning what sex is). When they’re older and understand what sex, reproduction, etc etc is then they should be thinking about topics like sexuality politics, religon.
This is my opinion💐
MEL!! and also i think that toddlers just shouldn’t learn about romance in general tbh. but all the young kids ive seen exposed to lgbtq relationships just.. get it? they don’t have a hateful bone in their bodies yk?
۶ৎ Melody ˖ wrote: "So I’m just going to drop my opinion.I think lgbtq+ is fine in middle school books or in upper elementary school grades (4th to 5th grade) but I feel like it shouldnt be for kids younger than 4th..."
I agree!
sieraqvt🇻🇳 semi-ia (school) wrote: "MEL!! and also i think that toddlers just shouldn’t learn about romance in general tbh. but all the young kids ive seen exposed to lgbtq relationships just.. get it? they don’t have a hateful bone ..."Right young kids shouldnt be exposed to romance. Yeah it’s probably cause they’re young and don’t even understand what religon is so they don’t see anything wrong about being queer. Which is why I think religon shouldnt be forced upon a kid at a young age too, you know what I mean?
Alina wrote: "۶ৎ Melody ˖ wrote: "So I’m just going to drop my opinion.I think lgbtq+ is fine in middle school books or in upper elementary school grades (4th to 5th grade) but I feel like it shouldnt be for k..."
Yay🙂↕️
the parents can decide to buy them/show them to their children if they want a certain enviroment for their kids to grow up in
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And you can’t really tell me it’s not okay for kids to know about lgbtq relationships so young… when they are already sexualized with dress codes and older women saying ‘oh she/he’s gonna be a heartbreaker’. I’ve heard older women and men comment on a TODDLERS privates in a ‘oh that’ll do them well in the future’ etc type of way. How is ‘girls can like girls and boys can like boys’ different?
Tessie wrote: "What about religious books? There’s a lot of in appropriate stuff in say, the Bible than there is with lgbtq, yet children read to bible or the children’s bible. Why is that okay and gender inclusi..."I totally agree I don’t think children should religious books until they’re older and have a better grasp and understanding about this world. Thrusting religion on an undeveloped mind is wrong.
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yeah, i agree. just like subtle. i mean as long as its not forcing it onto the child
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No. LGBT books just encourage kids to question themselves and believe they're something they're not. They can make them think they want to kiss the same gender or be a different gender and obviously that's harmful and confusing. There's enough "representation" elsewhere, you don't need it in kids literature.
As for religious content, Christian values should be incorporated in every book we can. So we're teaching kids the true way to grow up and be a good person.
As for other religion, save that for books specifically about that religion or culture, for specific classroom/study uses. Those religions are wrong and harmful and should not be presented like Christian values
As for religious content, Christian values should be incorporated in every book we can. So we're teaching kids the true way to grow up and be a good person.
As for other religion, save that for books specifically about that religion or culture, for specific classroom/study uses. Those religions are wrong and harmful and should not be presented like Christian values
Why should christian values be put in every book we can? Other people embrace different religions its not “harmful” it’s simply what someone believes in. Some people/children don’t even believe in a godly being. And as for lgbtq+ there’s nothing wrong with it being in children’s books because it’s representing love and encouraging acceptance. It’s today’s reality, we can’t shield it from children forever. And if the child is born with those feelings those books can show them they are accepted and it’s okay to feel that way. If you don’t want your child coming into contact with those books just find other books. Same goes for religion, we should have a variety of books containing different religions to make everyone feel acceptable. Not every children’s book has to have LGBTQ+ or religion in it but that doesn’t mean no children’s book should.
Agreed! I think it’s important that children learn to accept and respect other religions and cultures along with their own.
Steve *JESUS IS MY SAVIOR, TRUMP IS MY PRESIDENT* wrote: "No. LGBT books just encourage kids to question themselves and believe they're something they're not. They can make them think they want to kiss the same gender or be a different gender and obviousl..."Amen
i actually want to ask why other religions are harmful beyond the basic nonsense like they dont believe in jesus, what harmful values are they teaching?
ashh, thats what i wanna know but im not getting an answer
Side Note; There's a Christian horror movie coming out called "The Carpenters Son" and Nickolas Cage is going to play Joseph. I'm gonna watch it.
For religion, I feel like there are multiple answers. I don't like if a a book would make you want to convert religions, but if it’s a book that teaches religion to other students so simply then I would like that. I remember being a kid and having the biggest smile when the teacher would read a book about Islam and i would be so excited to talk to my peers about it. However I don't thing it should be taught to kids that are very young and are already exploring there own religion.
just be chill bout it dont force it onto people be polite and just let people be well just that people people have been queer and regilous since we could think
deleted user wrote: "No. LGBT books just encourage kids to question themselves and believe they're something they're not. They can make them think they want to kiss the same gender or be a different gender and obviousl..."'harmful' ??
so would u say that kids shouldnt see ANYTHING with kissing? or is it different with straight couples
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Sai :) wrote: "i think kissing really depends. like a lot of animated kids' movies have kissing and that's perfectly fine. but no full-blown making out or anything weird"yeah definitely
Sai :) wrote: "i think kissing really depends. like a lot of animated kids' movies have kissing and that's perfectly fine. but no full-blown making out or anything weird"yeah exactly
I think Christian books, depending on the content can be for any age, though I don’t think kids should read the Bible or things about that until middle or high school.