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message 1101: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments



Okay thank you! :) sorry about that haha

We can try that, yeah!

Okay yes to his parents! I like that idea if you do, they could be upset with her choices and then avaliyahs desire to actually be a healer as well given she wants to be hands on, and is. And yeah, that could work with the parents being upset about what her mother chose to do with marrying a commoner and such.

I like the idea of a turning point, my only thing is that I believe all the hospitals are run by the Thornes! Since I believe in the group, the nobles control each of their family’s assets, BUT that being said who knows, maybe again because they aren’t there all the time whoever they left to run a clinic in their absent was a terrible person, who pretended to be kind and gave false numbers to the Thornes or something, tricking them into believing their clinic was running as their instructed? (Ie not turning anyone away)?

That’s true he probably would, though I can imagine some would dislike him for his sister marrying a commoner, albeit they’d probably be more accepting of him than her so that could work!

Possibly! However, just to add, the nobles hold different assets, and control large things, but they’re not actually the government. An elected Council is, made up of commoners, nobles; and some in between, so they’re the ones who make the Voxthain legal decisions and such. But that said nobles do have galas and such so he could still be influential amongst them I think?

I do like the idea of somehow complementing it though, we just gotta figure out how exactly, given avaliyah wouldn't care if she found out her uncle was doing this. She’d probably want any way to help people. Actually she’d be glad he uncovered any bad clinic, but the gambling, unsure (and just to remind you there’s no money in this world, it’s all trade!)




message 1102: by Kyleigh (new)

Kyleigh  | 1427 comments @Aelin

True. Evelyn probably isn't aware of the fact that it is an act. And I agree, she probably wouldn't approve of Lala's friendship with Elara and Lysa. We can see how that goes :)


@Bella Sounds good! And if she and her husband ever found out about Athena's boyfriend? Oh boy, the drama that would happen lol.


@Elizabeth

Yeah, Evelyn and Alianna probably wouldn't have interact with her each much. But they would probably get along since she acts like a typical Delacroix lol. But she truly does have a kind side, she just feels like she would bring the Delacroix name down if she showed it more.


message 1103: by ash (last edited Mar 22, 2025 11:17AM) (new)

ash | 372 comments

@ elizabeth

That's a really good point about the hospitals - completely makes sense that they're all under Thorne control! I think we can work with that corrupted administrator angle though? Maybe?


What if instead of focusing on hospitals, Kieran works at the intersection where Thorne medical resources meet other noble houses? Like maybe he discovered that some medical supplies were being diverted or misused by other houses for less noble purposes (like the Calicos using healing crystals for jewelry instead of medical equipment, or something like that).


And yeah, the gambling den would need to work differently without money - maybe it's trading in favors, secrets, or rare magical items instead? That could actually make it more interesting!


I think you're right that Avaliyah would appreciate the uncovering of corruption part - maybe that's something they could bond over if they reconnect? The tension could come from his methods rather than his goals, which would make for interesting family dynamics I think!




message 1104: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments



Ash!

Yep! And that angle sounds like it could work for me too! I’m sorry there’s so much to discuss and alter

Ooh…I like that! The calicos would absolutely do something like that too, they and the seaveys and Delacroix’s are the worst lol and very classist and traditional in many senses, they’d totally use medical equipment for like. Potions or poisons (well one would) or take like, pain medications because they want them lol. At least some members would so that’s actually a really fun idea

I like that too actually! And that’s something that, yeah, avaliyah wouldn’t like and neither would her mother so that could add some tension as well. And yes! Agreed about them bonding over that if they reconnect but having tension over some methods. Like. If she knew calicos or someone noble was using equipment in a bad way, she’d want it to stop, and she can abide by some morally questionable methods, but I think gambling would leave a bad taste in her mouth haha




message 1105: by ash (new)

ash | 372 comments

No worries! I'm just coming into the group and want to work with what's already there and developed rather than making people feel like I'm running the show. I should have really looked through the other characters before starting on him!


I've updated Kieran in my brainstorms based on our conversation. If you wanna take a look? see if I'm missing anything.

I think this gives Kieran and Avaliyah an interesting dynamic - they share core values about helping people, but his methods would definitely create some family tension. 


Maybe we can wait to see if the mods approve of this direction before I get started on making his full character sheet? I'm excited about the potential here!




message 1106: by Aurora, ᴍᴀʏ ᴀʟʟ ʏᴏᴜʀ ʙᴀᴄᴏɴ ʙᴜʀɴ (new)

Aurora (sunkissedcassia) | 4493 comments

Okay, well, I see this got handled immediately! I was going to hop in and offer guidance but I see our older members were on it immediately. Thank you, Bella and Ezzabee! And Ash, I know this group has a lot going on and that there are many pre-existing things to get information on, but I promise there's a place here for you. I know people tend to worry that they're unwelcome in older groups that have a lot of pre-established plots and dynamics, but we truly have so many areas that need characters and dynamics worked out! Just wanted to offer that reassurance, I really appreciate how receptive and understanding you are about things! 🧡




message 1107: by ellie (last edited Mar 22, 2025 12:28PM) (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments



Absolutely makes sense! And it’s okay, truly. I’ll take a look, and yeah! We can have the mods check for sure.

I agree it does! And me too :)

Okay just checked and seems good to me! Love the face claim




message 1108: by ash (new)

ash | 372 comments

Thank you both so much! It really means a lot, especially coming into an established group with such rich worldbuilding.


@Rory - I appreciate the reassurance! I was a bit nervous about joining a group with so many dynamics, but everyone has been incredibly helpful and welcoming. I'm excited to find my place in Lux and contribute to the ongoing stories.


@Elizabeth - I'm glad the updated concept works! I'm really liking how Kieran is shaping up as a character with connections to your Thorne family while still having his own distinct path. And thanks for the face claim feedback - Rome Flynn feels perfect for the character I'm envisioning!


I'm looking forward to getting the official green light from the mods so I can start building out Kieran's full character sheet.




✧ aelin - heels, nails, blade, mascara ࿐࿔ (the_real_aelin) | 4414 comments Kyleigh wrote: "@Aelin

True. Evelyn probably isn't aware of the fact that it is an act. And I agree, she probably wouldn't approve of Lala's friendship with Elara and Lysa. We can see how that goes :)


@Bella So..."


sounds good!




message 1110: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments

@ash

You’re welcome! And so am I :) this will be fun, I’m excited someone’s making another Thorne actually. And your concept is great, thank you so much for working with what I had established/your patience and I hope it didn’t change Kieran too much from your OG vision




message 1111: by ellie (last edited Mar 22, 2025 02:50PM) (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments

AIDEN
FINAL CALICO KID IS DONE?!?!

Okay Kyleigh what are your thoughts for familial relations? I see he’s angry at Eadric (who isn’t), but does he hide this anger from his father?

And before she left, Alianna probably disliked how kind and shy Aiden was, but she acted sweet to his face or when in public, but if she did bully him she probably blackmailed or threatened him to keep quiet

Artemisia probably wants to get close to him because she also adores school and is a kinder person but worries he hates her for not being his mothers daughter




message 1112: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments @Kyleigh do you wanna work on Aiden and Alex's relationship? Alex is... something else lol. also, Alex also excels at math and science, so they have that in common. Alex was potentially a part of why Aiden may have made some of those enemies in cogworks tho...


message 1113: by Kyleigh (new)

Kyleigh  | 1427 comments @Elizabeth

Finally finished him lol. So for Eadric, yeah, he mostly just hides his anger for him, as he's afraid of how he would react.

I can totally see Alianna acting like that in front him. He wanted to tell Eadric and Elara how terrible of a person she is, but he knows that they wouldn't believe since they adore her so much.

I can get by that! He doesn't hate Artemisia, just the fact that she's not Elara's daughter. Maybe they can have some type of conversation about it?



@Bella

XD. Yeah, maybe they have more a strained relationship because of that? But they could bond over their love for math and science?


message 1114: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments @kyleigh

yeah, that sounds good. there's also the whole Alex not being elara's son thing (although that is a well-kept secret). for the record, Alex also hates that.


message 1115: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments

okay cool. I hadn’t been sure so I wanted to clarify, thank you!

Yup…yeah Eadric definitely wouldn’t believe him, he’s probably fired like one staff member who dared to try to tell him Alianna was being a borderline abuser

I am down for that conversation!!




message 1116: by Kyleigh (new)

Kyleigh  | 1427 comments @Bella and Elizabeth

Sounds good!


✧ aelin - heels, nails, blade, mascara ࿐࿔ (the_real_aelin) | 4414 comments

we have a complete set of calicos <3
elara would probably love aiden a lot because he is her son and he is kind and gentle and very loving




message 1118: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments the calicos are wild, and I love it lol


✧ aelin - heels, nails, blade, mascara ࿐࿔ (the_real_aelin) | 4414 comments

which family isn’t wild? XD




message 1120: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments none haha


✧ aelin - heels, nails, blade, mascara ࿐࿔ (the_real_aelin) | 4414 comments

though which one is the most wild has yet to be decided…




message 1122: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments

in terms of the family relationship drama I say calicos, they’re definitely the biggest mess




message 1123: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments @aelin you'd think they're in a contest or smth lmao


✧ aelin - heels, nails, blade, mascara ࿐࿔ (the_real_aelin) | 4414 comments

that’s true
the calicos are the literal definition of a mess
but there’s also the delacroixs…




✧ aelin - heels, nails, blade, mascara ࿐࿔ (the_real_aelin) | 4414 comments ✧Bella✧ wrote: "@aelin you'd think they're in a contest or smth lmao"

wait they’re not?! LOL




message 1126: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments yeah, the delacroixs are also a mess...

and let's not get started on all the forbidden or at the very least not "ideal" romances...


message 1127: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments ✧ aelin - 东海龙王之女 ࿐࿔ wrote: "that’s true
the calicos are the literal definition of a mess
but there’s also the delacroixs…"


I feel like the Delacroix’s are less of a mess but they, the calicos, and seaveys are absolutely awful lol




message 1128: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments I mean, the Delacroixs response to messy situations might potentially be kicking you out of the family altogether, I guess lol


message 1129: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments

true, I think in terms of relationships though the calicos are a disaster with cheating




message 1130: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments they are...

dollhouse by Melanie Martinez fits both families really well


message 1131: by Isabella, ɪᴛ’ꜱ ɴᴏᴛ ᴇᴀꜱʏ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴏʟᴅ (new)

Isabella | 1500 comments

not everyone can be the ellington-wyvers 😎😎 unproblematic queens and their unproblematic family




message 1132: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments

No literally I was thinking they have the least overall drama




message 1133: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments taz and fae just chillin while all these crazies are falling apart lol


message 1134: by Isabella, ɪᴛ’ꜱ ɴᴏᴛ ᴇᴀꜱʏ ʙᴇɪɴɢ ᴏʟᴅ (new)

Isabella | 1500 comments

i love that we made them before any other noble family existed and now their prejudice against the other nobility is proven to be at least in part valid. they're wilding out there, including fae and taz's parents




message 1135: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments Lucien has to complicate things by falling in love with a delacroix...


message 1136: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments

he falls in love with a Delacroix??




message 1137: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments

and bella I’m working on a Hayden brother lol




message 1138: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments Lucien and lala :)

if aelin and I can convince them lmao


message 1139: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments the Hayden brother, now that's gonna be drama lol


message 1140: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments ✧Bella✧ wrote: "Lucien and lala :)

if aelin and I can convince them lmao"


OH?!


message 1141: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments ✧Bella✧ wrote: "the Hayden brother, now that's gonna be drama lol"

Ohhh yes it will be XD


message 1142: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments oh yes.

to both things lol


message 1143: by ellie (new)

ellie (rebelkitten12) | 3629 comments

bella! obviously I'm gonna change the first three pictures but this was my thought so far xd https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...




✧ aelin - heels, nails, blade, mascara ࿐࿔ (the_real_aelin) | 4414 comments ✧Bella✧ wrote: "Lucien and lala :)

if aelin and I can convince them lmao"


will take some time…. XD




message 1145: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments @elizabeth first of all: I love him
second of all: so will Draven ;)


message 1146: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments @aelin yeah... quite some time. slowburn rivals-to-lovers :)


✧ aelin - heels, nails, blade, mascara ࿐࿔ (the_real_aelin) | 4414 comments

slow burn as in very very very slow




message 1148: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments VERY slow like, it's barely even burning at all yet slow XD


✧ aelin - heels, nails, blade, mascara ࿐࿔ (the_real_aelin) | 4414 comments

ye… we need a turning point
OMG THE MASKED GALA




message 1150: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6529 comments OOOH


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