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@Alpha Speaking of councilor relationships, did you have any thoughts for Venus and Lucien?
@Bella - Ask Kyleigh for that. I have Sapphira lol
Oh wait, I meant Sapphira, sorry lol.
@AlphaI like that idea! That would make sense not knowing the other councilors that well if she's only been on the council for three months. Venus's main goal is to help stop the shadowfog, and is also wanting equal rights for all Voxthian people regardless of their social status.
@alpha oh yes! any thoughts on a relationship between sapphira and lala?
@Kyleigh -
Okay, that's good to know. Do you think they'd have any connection over being citizens and not nobles? Or was Venus raised too high-class to notice that poverty and stuff?
@Bella -
Alright, so from my understanding Lucien is not a people person. He prefers to be alone. And he tends to keep his head down and do his work. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
For Sapphira's character, she doesn't trust nobles. That much is a clear part of her personality. You have to earn her trust when you have a noble status, same thing applies to everyone on the council.
For Lucien, their interactions would most likely be limited. In another RP I have with Sapphira, it was mentioned that most of the information she knows about the shadowfog was given to her by Lucien. So they can have those interactions. They've also obviously had general interactions. Otherwise, I'd say she's kept things business and nothing more till she knows who to trust.
What kind of relationship do you think would fit them? Strictly colleges, something with some drama, etc?
@Aelin -
So far, Sapphira's knowledge of Lorelei is that the girls a bitch. The description I used in another RP was that she heard her screaming at someone when she was in her office on night. I'd figure because of that, they have strained relationships.
General introductions aside, Sapphira probably tried to avoid her to avoid the toxicity. So probably something strained. They work together so they have to see eachother but Sapphira is probably really scared and nervous around Lorelei. Especially considering the Cogsworth history.
What do you think we should do with that?
honestly, im not too sure if lala is the type to scream at someone in her office when she knows others can hear her, but she would definitely scream within the estate. sometimes. rarely. depends lol
cogworks is an issue - draven used to bully sapphira, right? ig that would affect their relationship - even though lala was never that type in cogworks herself (sapphira wouldn’t know though)
yeah, i guess lorelei would try and act nice in front of the girl and make her feel welcome, but if she’s sticking with cal 24/7 then lala would mostly ignore her
if she sees sapphira interacting with lucien though, she may try and put a stop to it
so strained, yeah. but lala would definitely try to get the girl on her side, instead of lucien’s
@Alpha
Well... yes and no lol. He really isn't a people person, and I guess in a way he does mostly keep his head down and focus on his work? Like, he doesn't like getting involved in any rivalries or anything, and mostly steers clear of controversial topics. He does have a tendency to turn on the charm, however. Tries to be nice to everyone. Kind of a people pleaser, in a way, even though he doesn't really like people.
He is really focused on the shadowfog, and yeah, that would make sense. I think Lucien has picked up on the fact that Sapphira has a thing against nobles, but I don't think he's likely to acknowledge it. Although he probably thinks it ironic if he knows she thinks of him as privileged, or anything like that.
Idk for sure. I mean, if Lala is trying to get Sapphira on her side, Lucien is prob gonna do the same XD.
all this is making me realize I never talked about this with most of you lmao
How would Caledonia get along with Lala and Lucien? Presumably not well with Lala, she loathes nobility like that and has a temper and has a thing against selfish people so
oh, oops lol. i'm really not sure. like i said, lucien tends to try to get everyone to like him, even though he doesn't really tend to like anyone lmao
see the thing is; she’s probably wary of Lucien. Cal too dislikes people (nobles and men) and she doesn’t trust either of them and is probably worried Lucien has some hidden bad agenda, being a male noble? She’s had awful experiences with nobles and men so she doesn’t trust him and outright hates Lala
makes sense. i'm assuming they'd end up having to work together on the whole shadowfog thing tho? i mean, it's not like lucien and lala are currently intending to work together on it tho, so idk lol
@AlphaI think that Sapphira could trust Venus a little more since they both don't have noble status, but she might be caitious around Venus if she thinks she's faking her kindness? Venus probably wouldn't recognize Sapphira being cautious (at least at first) and would try to help her get adjusted to the job. And Venus would definitely recognize the fact that they're both ordinary citizens and not nobles
probably, but she won’t be outright pleasant to him. She refuses to meet with Lucien unless it’s in a public space with other people present, or a room with others in it. And she’d probably be all business with a side of unable-to-hide-her-sharpness when she speaks to him
alright. now i'm trying to figure out how lucien would react to that. like, he's prob wondering why she refuses to meet alone with him.
ah…yeah. she probably won’t tell him unless he picks a fight about it and she loses it but I also don’t think she cares that it may piss him off (view spoiler)
yeah, maybe he just doesn't pick up on it. idk. i think he might be slightly paranoid just now, with lala trying to learn all his secrets lol
your call. could add more complications if he does pick up on it haha. bc yeah she’s paranoid too, so not a good combination lmao
they're both paranoid, splendid. XD i mean, that could be fun. not for either of them, of course it all depends, really. i think he might pick up on it at some point, fi he hasn't yet. maybe he gets worried that she know somehow, idk.
XD right?! exactly so let’s do it who cares about their feelings? Lol and yeah that works! I don’t think she does know. I can’t see her getting to the point to going through his stuff yet, but she’s also one to never meet with male citizens alone, or the other male councilor (Isabella’s character), but to her Lucien is also noble so he’s worse in her mind? And no matter how nice he acts to her is a little afraid of him for both those reasons and that fear comes across as more coldness and anger
✧.*elizabeth✧.* wrote: " all this is making me realize I never talked about this with most of you lmaoHow would Caledonia get along with Lala and Lucien? Presumably not well with Lala, she loathes nobility like that an..."
oh yeah definitely not
lala doesn’t like cal because she wasn’t born into nobility and she knows cal doesn’t like her which makes it even worse
@Aelin -
Okay, maybe just a random night she ended up in the office a bit later then expected and heard something she shouldn't have. Kept it to herself.
Yeah, that'd probably be a whole thing. She hates Draven, the boy was ruthless to her. She's very skidish and mistrusting of nobles because of it so she most definitely won't be super eager to spend an excess of time around Lorelei.
So far, she isn't 'sticking' with anyone. She's wandering lost looking for her footing. She doesn't have a single person she trusts entirely on council but she's getting to the point where she's building bonds and learning what her goals and stuff are and where to start. With that, she's relying on Cal a bit as a mentor with meetings about Voxthain citizens and what they need to do to help. Otherwise, idk the other councilors relationships with her.
Alright definitely strained. And she can be a middle monkey. A new toy. Although, she might have a mind of her own. Or not once her father dies... Really up to who plays the game better on that one.
@Bella -
For some reason I feel like they'd get a long. Sapphira is just a kind girl looking to help rn basically. So with him being quiet, and his determination, I bet he could probably win her over.
The two can maybe develop something over shadowfog? Although, Sapphira doesn't see the majorness of that threat. Once he dad is murdered she'll be a crying mess and lock in on the murder cases. So if that changes anything let me know. Cause Rory and I are killing the dad rn. Does he do well with grief and support and stuff?
@Kyleigh -
Yeah, she's definitely a bit skeptical in case Venus adopted any habits from the nobles but they should have a connection. Venus would probably make a good fit for like an office guide and lunch run buddy and stuff? Am I wrong?
@AlphaShe could absolutely be a lunch buddy and guide for Sapphira! They could probably be acquaintances, but might not interact with each other much unless they're in a meeting with the other councilors or if they need to report something to each other. They'd probably just have more of a casual friendship, if that makes sense.
@Kyleigh -
Yeah! Totally agree. For Sapphira's profile how does this sound:
Venus and Sapphira get along fairly well. The two share the similarities of being non-noble and working on the council. They have a casual friendship, most of their time spent on lunch breaks or quick conversations. When it comes to working, they don't have plenty of one-on-one time. Instead, they only work together in large council.
Give any critiques or corrections you think of please!
Alphie : ♡ Mental Health Semi-Hiatus ♡ wrote: "@Aelin -
Okay, maybe just a random night she ended up in the office a bit later then expected and heard something she shouldn't have. Kept it to herself.
Yeah, that'd probably be a whole thin..."
yeah, that works
Alphie : ♡ Mental Health Semi-Hiatus ♡ wrote: "@Kyleigh -
Yeah! Totally agree. For Sapphira's profile how does this sound:
Venus and Sapphira get along fairly well. The two share the similarities of being non-noble and working on the coun..."
Sounds good to me! I like it!
@Aelin -
Alright, for her profile how's this sound?
Lorelei and Sapphira have a very strained relationship. The two only interact when they need and generally dislike being around one another. While the possibility of faking things doesn't cross Sapphira's mind, the same can't be said about Lorelei's possible plans to manipulate her. Even so, the two keep their distance and prefer to keep things strictly profession for their minimal interactions.
sounds good!
Imma start simple and get into details later:
Does anyone have an OC that would potentially be willing to have murdered my ip OCs twin brother? Somebody that my OC can hold a grudge against and want revenge for?
Now the context, I'm channeling my anger into an OC. He's going to be a sword mage in the fighting ring. He's one of those people that live for only blood, and when he's not fighting, he's probably drunk and yelling. However, his redeeming traits include: his parents were useless drunks, he and his twin became snakes at a young age, and then he watched his beloved twin brother get brutally murdered.
So, is anyone interested in having my OC want revenge on theirs basically?
(details can be determined later once my OC is done)
I have the Serpentine Head who would absolutely have murdered him and grinned while doing it, but do you want a gang leader or a normal gang member/citizen to have done that?
I do have a snake (normal) if that’s the case? Actually two. One is an Asterath councillor and one is a normal snake
Oh my gosh, so many ideas lmao. Imma just ask questions to figure out what works best with OCs.
Rory, does the serpentine head kill gang members randomly or with reason? If the second,can you give me a few examples please?
Elizatbeth (can I call you Liz for short?), is the Asterath councillor a loyal snake or a spy snake to take the gang down?
you can call me Liz :)
And she’s a loyal snake so more drama bc she hides that part of herself in council but tries to help the snakes in her politics
I'm sure it'd work best with Elizabeth's normal gang member more than my Head but your choice!
Randomly and with reason both. He likes killing so if someone yawns near him, he'll probably kill them for amusement. But he also kills if someone wrongs him and his gang for sure. Kills one of his own, is just annoying, any reason that offends him or for none at all.
mmmk...
Liz, would your normal snake be up for pissing off the head and having a bad history of murdering a brother snake?
@alpha I know we considering potentially doing an arranged marriage with Melody and Draven, but since I love drama, I was wondering what you would think if they are engaged, but there ends up being smth between Draven and one of the Seavey brothers (I could ask if anyone else wants to make him) thoughts?
Alphie : ♡ Mental Health Semi-Hiatus ♡ wrote: "mmmk...
Liz, would your normal snake be up for pissing off the head and having a bad history of murdering a brother snake?
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probably? You can look at Zahra and Taja in my thread to see which one you’d prefer! Idk if they’d piss the head off tho?
✧Bella✧ wrote: "@alpha I know we considering potentially doing an arranged marriage with Melody and Draven, but since I love drama, I was wondering what you would think if they are engaged, but there ends up being..."hmmm... I doubt there would be drama with her brothers? Unless Draven tries to like kill her or something? Although, if you want drama... Melody is bi, and Draven does have a sister.... if you see what what i'm laying down...
✧.*elizabeth✧.* wrote: "Alphie : ♡ Mental Health Semi-Hiatus ♡ wrote: "mmmk...
Liz, would your normal snake be up for pissing off the head and having a bad history of murdering a brother snake?
"
probably? You can ..."
if there is a random murder of a fellow snake I believe that would piss of the head? and I'll go look rn
Okay so the option in my mind are:
Zahra saw his brother as a threat and didn't hesitate to eliminate no matter the consequence. (idk what threat though...)
Taja was manipulated (gullible trait) and paid to kill the brother, not knowing the target would be placed on her head. and now she has a man trying to kill her.
@alpha Draven doesn't have a sister, but he does have female cousins... including one who's still uncreated... and that's legit an idea I had ngl. anyway, it would be drama cuz they're engaged, and idk about the Seaveys, but Esmeralda would be 100% against it
Alphie : ♡ Mental Health Semi-Hiatus ♡ wrote: "✧.*elizabeth✧.* wrote: "Alphie : ♡ Mental Health Semi-Hiatus ♡ wrote: "mmmk...
Liz, would your normal snake be up for pissing off the head and having a bad history of murdering a brother snake?..."
Oh good point
Yeah zahra wouldn’t care and Taja it depends
Alphie : ♡ Mental Health Semi-Hiatus ♡ wrote: "Okay so the option in my mind are:
Zahra saw his brother as a threat and didn't hesitate to eliminate no matter the consequence. (idk what threat though...)
Taja was manipulated (gullible tr..."
ooh
Either of those options would work with me tbh
I have a zahra collab kinda with howler right now if he’s still active later so I wanna say Taja but also I am totally down for either so whoever works for you!
✧Bella✧ wrote: "@alpha Draven doesn't have a sister, but he does have female cousins... including one who's still uncreated... and that's legit an idea I had ngl. anyway, it would be drama cuz they're engaged, and..."
The dad would be against it. Mom probably would be too. Both parents want her married (dad cause it's like business and mom because she thinks it'll make the girl happy). Her brothers will be fully focused on her happiness though.
Ooops, well, she can still fall in love with a cousin? Draven possibly finding Melody making out with a cousin would be lovely drama in my opinion.
And for the engagement, do you want to make it so they already are? Or do you wanna do an RP of them getting engaged? Also this is forced engagement right? Or do they 'love' each other anyways?
Yeah so with that, this is actually for an OC history. This happened like a few years ago in time. It's what caused my OC to go mad. Maybe I forgot to specify that. So it doesn't really matter, unless they are new snakes?
i see. and I assume they would feel the same about their son? as for the cousin thing, I know ash said she wanted the youngest cousin (who is still over 29, I think, going off what I've mentioned in other profiles) not sure if she still does.
if she's with his cousin, and he's with her brother... it would be wild lol. ( imagine the cousin and brother were supposed to marry lmao)
they're not engaged yet in either thing I've got going with Draven, so rp, I guess. and yeah, it's forced.
