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he found out when he was fourteen. so, that would have been after alianna left, right?
as for personality, here's what i've got although the bitterness has kind of been since she left, not before...:
Alex is reckless, impulsive, and has a bit of a violent streak. Not that he would necessarily want to actually hurt anyone - well, maybe he would, under the right circumstances. He’s also smart, having gotten excellent grades during all of his time at Cogworks, and is a strong magic user, as well as being good at science. He's essentially a genius, but he might also be slightly insane... He’s very protective of his friends, and anyone who ever dared to be a jerk to any of them ended up on the losing side of a fight. He also has a tendency to hold grudges, as well as an inclination for revenge, and has a lot of bitterness toward both of his parents. A part of him is very rebellious, and doesn’t give a damn what anyone says, but he also knows the power of appearing innocent, something he is ridiculously good at doing. He could be bullying someone, or even cooking up a literal explosive, one minute, but as soon as a parent or teacher showed up, he would appear to be the sweetest boy. He can always tell when something is wrong with his friends, and does his best to help, even if he is an absolute mess himself. To be fair, he’s a lot better at fixing other people’s problems than his own.
probably? Or right before? Unsure.
Hmm. Okay. I think artemisia may be slightly afraid of him? But she’s also super intelligent so who knows if they get along maybe they study together at some point?
Alianna. Well. She’s also like that though, sweet in front of people and teachers and such, but she’s also a terrible person and probably worse than him? So I don’t know. Maybe she taught him poisons and stuff idk
ok. I currently have it that she left when he was like 13, but I do need to make sure I did the math right lol. I can easily change that.hmm... I see. yeah, I guess that would make sense lol. but, studying together is honestly such a cute idea? not sure if it would work tho...
oh, that would be wild if she was the one who taught him about that stuff. but it would kinda make sense?
Okay so Alianna left at eighteen, and so I think thirteen is right for Alex! Since I believe they're roughly five years apart. And yeah, if he found out at fourteen, then she wouldn't know, UNLESS Esmeralda told her. I don't think Eadric told Alianna her brother was illegitimate. She knew her youngest sister was, but that was probably because Alianna didn't buy the story he probably told, idk
me neither, because their personalities are very different? alex is more like, chaotic I feel, or would act on the bitterness he feels, whereas artemisia is quieter and she just wants to make everyone smile. she's also very bitter and angry at her father, but she would never want to hurt him or anyone else? she's very anxious, perfectionist-like mess who feels pressured to be a perfect noble so much it's stifling, and she is very very intelligent, mostly in history and politics, sometimes science? but she doesn't invent things and make explosives like alexander or make poisons like alianna, so maybe they wouldn't then? idk. their personalites are just very different I think. but who knows, maybe they got closer after alex realized he'd also illegitimate?
it would. I don't know, that's what I'm trying to figure out, because on one hand they're both violent (or can be, for alex), but alianna is actually not impulsive. she will bide her time, think through her murders, cover her tracks. here's a question: if alex knew about alianna's sadistic nature, would he care? bc most of her siblings don't know (artemisia knows shes a bully), but the whole murder thing? idk
alright, good. i don't think esmeralda would have told her, so she prob wouldn't know, unless she figured it out somehow.
yeah, they're def very different. and alex is like, a good student in all subjects, but i feel like science is his best. and maybe math that just came out of nowhere lol. but math and science go together so... he is very chaotic lol, and much mor likely to act on his bitterness. i mean, idk how much he really has, but he would def like to. and he is pretty impulsive... i do think it's def possible that got closer after he found out.
hmmm... yeah, like alex is smart, and can see the sense in stuff like that, but he has a tendency to get caught up in the moment, and just... lose it. so yeah... but, i mean, he has managed to mostly get way with stuff by pulling the innocent act. good question, i'm not 100% sure. i feel like... he wouldn't really mind too much. i mean, i think she's def worse than him, and maybe there's a point where he would think it's too far, but, like... i really don't think he'd be as bothered by it as he should be lol.
sounds good. I'm going to go with she doesn't know. if she did she'd probably endlessly bully him when they were younger and that complicates things so we'll say no for now, more drama later on (on that note I cannot have alianna die in runalithe yet until she gets her drama sorted out with this family xd)
works for me! math and science I agree do seem to go together. and I think those are artemisia's 'worst" subjects, and yeah, she wouldn't act on it. if she did, it'd be more angrily going off verbally, she'd never hurt someone unless she desperately had to, and wants eace and a loving family deep down. and that works! I think she is a bit wary of how impulsive alex is, and what he makes with explosives and such, and she probably tells him to be careful when he's reckless. she will sneak out a lot, but she doesn't, like, I don't know, do things that could accidentally get people hurt
alianna, too, she hides all she does behind closed doors and arcane lock and such, and she was always sweet to teachers and her parents, and she threatened the people she bullied to stay silent. and the few people who tried to tell teachers or her father got punished for it by alianna, or her father, if it was a servant.hmm. yeah she is, she literally would and has killed close friends for her own purposes and selfishness before, she's literally a murderer, so. so does he know she bullies people then? probably not that she's killed before and makes dangerous toxins but idk
alright, good. she doesn't know, we'll leave that for later maybe. and yeah, the drama must be sorted out lol.
alright then. so, he kinda scares her, cause he's too impulsive, and that worries her. but they might possibly have ended up bonding because they really both want a loving family, and sure, alex's dad loves him, but between him learning the truth about his mother, and getting passed over for the inheritance, he doesn't feel very loved, so... they're prob not liek super close, but... closer than before?
he prob knows about her bullying people. he did the same thing. he draven and melody were prob like the bullies during their time at cogworks. prob doesn't know about the murder, no... she would prob keep that from him, right?
perfect! xd yep
I think so! Alianna also scared her, as she kept quiet about it under threat, but she is very glad alianna is gone and I think she really tries to get through to alex? like now that they're...closer than before?...she sometimes tries to like, calm him down or stop him from bullying people? or like, acting super rashly? but yeah, that makes sense why he's angry about the inheritance passing over him, I would be too xd. but yes, not super close but closer
got it. and so they had no issue with one another bullying others, and yeah, makes sense. Alianna was definitely the Big Bad in her years at Cogsworks as well, and in noble society she was always a problem too, though more subtly at galas so she wasn't caught often. got it. and yeah, for sure. like. maybe she has always egged on alex's experiments and explosives? like when they were younger, she'd always just be amused by his own work, but as he was only thirteen when she left, she definitely hid her murders from him. she killed people starting when she was fifteen so he'd only be ten, and so no, she'd not have told him that
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yeah, sounds good. good luck, artemisia lol. i think she might possibly succeed somewhat... sometimes. not super close, but closer it is, then.
alright. this family has issues lmao. the way that draven is also a part of the family. smh i feel like alex would be the type to sneak of during galas, and like smoke, or something lmao. although maybe he'd stay for draven... oh my word the two of them are prob such a... idek but, yeah, good. her egging him on sounds perfect. omg when she comes back... he's gotten worse, and like super bitter towards both of his parents since she left, and just... that's wild. but then, there's also the matter of her possibly finding out that he's illegitimate, or queer, or... well.
oh sorry I forgot I had to reply here!
okay! yeah, works for me. she'll try xd
they do lol. got it. yeah, alianna didn't sneak away, she adored parties and galas tbh, and she probably thought alex's smoking hobby was disgusting. okay! and yeah, she'd probably not care if he got worse, honestly, but yeah if she finds out any of that he'll drop a few notches in her eyes (all this being said, alianna may just wind up in prison so)
I'm honestly not sure when he started smoking tbh. but yeah. I feel like Alex might stay at galas for only two purposes: 1. flirting, and 2. standing next to Draven and telling jokes and/or plotting mayhem, while Draven is trying desperately to keep a straight face. XDI guess we'll see how things play out.
what would everyone’s relationship be like with elara?
so far my notes are:
- always overshadowed by her elder sister
- a kind, gentle and pure soul
- loves alex and artemisia as her own children even though they don’t realise
- sum her up in 2 words: unrequited love
- elder sister and parents mistreated her and she doesnt want any of eadric’s children to feel like she did and isolated
- a couple years younger than eadric and loves him even though she knows that he doesn’t love her back
- quiet and hurting all the time
- puts on a brave face
- smart
- cares for everyone in her family
✧Bella✧ wrote: "I'm honestly not sure when he started smoking tbh. but yeah. I feel like Alex might stay at galas for only two purposes: 1. flirting, and 2. standing next to Draven and telling jokes and/or plottin..."got it. xd I love how he is now. friend of draven, but they're cousins so makes sense
— aelin [one look give ‘em whiplash] ✧ hiatus wrote: "what would everyone’s relationship be like with elara?
so far my notes are:
- always overshadowed by her elder sister
- a kind, gentle and pure soul
- loves alex and artemisia as her own childre..."
omg?? I kinda love that?? i had in mind she was like, homophobic and that was another reason eadric sometimes had affairs with men behind her back, but I can work with this and say he was afraid bc his own parents were and was scared of elara maybe being as well, and because he's just a jerk sometimes who has affairs with everyone
sure I can make her homophobic if you wish! I’ll fit that into her history somehow
maybe a bit like how eadric has affairs with men behind her back, her father had affairs with men behind her mother’s back and somehow that led to her mother’s death? I’ll find a way XD
welp guess she doesn’t know
— aelin [one look give ‘em whiplash] ✧ hiatus wrote: "sure I can make her homophobic if you wish! I’ll fit that into her history somehowmaybe a bit like how eadric has affairs with men behind her back, her father had affairs with men behind her mothe..."
no no its okay! that was literally just an excuse for why he had affairs lol before I knew someone would make the mom! i can work with anything!
sure! honestly im totally up for it - opportunity for more trauma dumping lmao
what would her relationship be like with alianna and artemisia?
xd i get that.
hmm. so, artemisia's mother is still in the picture, as a protected staff member, and eadric I do think tried to cover up that she wasn't born to elara. but artemisia feels a lot of pressure to hide that half of herself and keep up the public lie elara is her mother, but she knows she's not. so maybe she's wary of her in a sense? like you said elara loves her, but maybe its hard for artemisia to believe? even though she wants to, she's afraid the kind demeanor is a lie? but she also wants to make elara smile because she knows her father cheating on her was wrong?
alianna...well. alianna is a terror, but she usually hid that from her parents best she could, so...
that’s fair
I guess like a strained relationship? artemisia tries to avoid her, but when they’re together she is really nice?
alianna… well I suppose knowing elara she would be devasted that alianna left without any word and she still doesn’t believe that one of her own children by blood could be like that?
that could probably work? and she wants to trust her, but worries she too would be angry, or have too much pressure on her, or hate her or something?
that's fair! alianna probably always played her, like pretended to be loving and sweet around her mother, but always saw her as weak in her own opinion. and i dont know if alianna's murders have had any proof yet, i think they still have been hidden from most people
yeah! I think that works really well
sounds like alianna lmao I can just imagine sweet words and as soon as elara’s back is turned alianna rolls her eyes and smth
so... what exactly did you have in mind for elara and alex's relationship?
✧.*elizabeth✧.* wrote: "✧Bella✧ wrote: "I'm honestly not sure when he started smoking tbh. but yeah. I feel like Alex might stay at galas for only two purposes: 1. flirting, and 2. standing next to Draven and telling joke..."yeah... like half of my chars are related at this point lmao. but tbh, i fear the two of them may just be a disaster waiting to happen.
✧Bella✧ wrote: "so... what exactly did you have in mind for elara and alex's relationship?"honestly? no idea
probably a bit similar to artemisia’s but probably more nice? I mean alex doesn’t know his true heritage so
well... he actually found out when he was 14... the year after he found out his father wanted to pass over him for the inheritance, actually
i feel like he might actually be closer to her than his father tho, at least since he learned the truth. like, he is upset at everyone for lying to him, but he's not as angry at her, because, well, he's not even her son, but she's always been nice to him, and, besides, she isn't really to blame for everything. but, idk, i feel like, at least when he first found out, he prob avoided her a lot, because, obvious reasons.
@snail
so... I'm working on Alex, who's one of the calico siblings (you can find his partly made profile on my thread). he's the same age as Isley, but they have different moms. however, since their dad would have wanted to avoid a scandal, I was thinking they might have grown up believing they were twins, as long as you're cool with that. he's also gonna be friends with Draven, so I was thinking that the three of them are all close? I know Isley seems like she would be the nicest one of the friend group, but anyway, let me know what you think.
@alpha
Alex is also potentially another friend for Melody. he and Draven are close, so maybe they were like all part of the friend group in cogworks (he was also involved with the whole prank war)
@bella
questions for you!
1.) does elliot go by a different surname in the militia bc he's cagey about his family line?
2.) are you good if i start the message thread?
i'm pretty sure he just goes by delacroix.
yeah, that's good. :)also, i swear i'll get toe market rp soon. i literally started my reply the other night, but i've only got one paragraph so far.
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okay! :) no its okay, we're almost done I'm sensing anyway, at least in that location, take your time!
@Bella,Yeah, twins sounds good for Isley and Alex! I love the idea! I think she and Draven and Alex would probably all be good friends too, especially since they all grew up together. Isley might be a little nicer than them, but she definitely has some blind spots as far as her family is concerned. Would she know that Alex isn't her real twin or was that kept from her?
Also, if she knew about it his experiments/explosives stuff, she'd think it was a lot of fun and probably would want to help or at least watch lol.
yay! alright, so neither of them knew they weren't actually twins at first Alex found out when he was 14, so idk for sure whether he would have told her. I mean, I guess prob eventually? and, yeah that's great, I can so see her helping with the explosives.
Okay, sounds good. She probably wouldn't really care if she ever found out they weren't actually twins. Like, after thinking of Alex as her twin for so long, she'd probably still see him that way regardless and it wouldn't change how she felt about him or anything. She might be slightly miffed at first that it was kept from them, but I can see her getting over that fairly quickly.She's not bitter or violent like he is, but she does have a chaotic streak and an attraction to danger and breaking the rules. I can see them getting into a lot of trouble together haha. She'd probably sneak into his room and try to drag him out of bed at some absurd time of the night to go out adventuring with her.
yay! that's good. :)yes, they prob get into SO MUCH trouble together lol. and manage to drag Draven into it a lot of the time too lol. oh, btw, Draven and Alex were both involved in a prank war against Elliot and his friends a few years ago... I'd guess Isley would have been a part of it too?
Yes I love it! Chaotic twins lol. Yeah, she would have wanted to be part of the prank war, especially since Draven and Alex were involved.
✧Bella✧ wrote: "i feel like he might actually be closer to her than his father tho, at least since he learned the truth. like, he is upset at everyone for lying to him, but he's not as angry at her, because, well,..."Yeah that works!
She's not finished yet, but I have Venus, a Voxthian councilor. I was thinking of possibly doing some collaborations with her and a few of the other councilors? If anyone has a councilor and is interested, let me know :)
I've got a councilor, Lucien Wyver. not sure what you had in mind. do you have any info on Venus posted yet?
haha, i’ve got lucien’s (current) enemy lorelei delacroix?
my councilor doesn't exactly like nor trust most of the others, sorry xd especially since venus is highborn
alright, I've looked at Venus's profile. I noticed that she and Lucien are the same age, so maybe they were in the same class at cogworks? just a thought. Lucien's mother was also a councilor, although he is a noble he does try to get along with the other councilors as much as possible. he doesn't necessarily like them all, but he tends to put on the charm.
he tends to avoid more controversial issues as much as possible, and is working hard on trying to find a solution to the shadow of.
imma just say: if venus gets along well with lucien, she’s unlikely to get on lala’s good side
else: lala will be happy to befriend her :)
when did Alex find out? Because Alianna may not have known yet either? Also what’s his personality?