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yeah…okay, should we just continue their conversation and not mention them leaving yet? Idk
maybe... i'm in the middle of my reply, so i guess you can decide what you want to do after i post it..?
@people with nobles, i guess
alright, so, i've got this idea for a noble, and i was wondering about fitting him into a family. he's like 18, and i'm currently thinking jack wolf fc. anyway, he's prob gonna be friends with draven, melody, and such. i feel like he often presents himself as being all sweet and innocent around adults, but he's... actually not lol. he's gonna be smart, but maybe kinda... idk. he's still in brainstorming, so i'm not 100% sure on his personality yet. @alpha i was considering he might be the seavey twin, but idk if he fits your vision.
also, @elizabeth
kinda random, but just a suggestionif you don't like it no prob, but, well i had been considering having draven maybe get captured, and then i know you want cal to be, so i was thinking, what if they both were, and then like... idk , had to help each other or smth? i just feel like that could lead to some character growth for both of them lol. of course, i'm not exactly sure how that would work, but i figured i'd see what you think.
@bella
uh. probably not. Sorry, it’s just that Isabella, Rory, and I already kinda discussed it on discord and we’re looping in ceonrei and Cal’s mom and her mom’s family friends so cal will already have some growth realizing people care about her and stuff?
And she’s taken bc she’s a militia leader, councilor, and her father was former serpentine so…and I think they’re nabbing her when she’s back at the fighting ring in Asterath so I have like…reasons why she’s getting taken already I’m sorry
@elizabeth
no prob. i was mostly just thinking two or three kidnapping scenarios might be too much, and that might make it a little less... much lol. didn't you and howler also have some sort of kidnapping plan..?
@Bella - I'm considering it rn. Basically what the Seavey requirements are for the twin is basically being kinda protective of Melody (cause all the brothers are). And when you say smart and 'acting' innocent I need you to elaborate? How much evil is he gonna be behind the scenes?
sorry we already just had it kinda cemented and such, we figured out details tuesday. And yeah I think so too. And no, howler and I were just tossing ideas for zahra and Kodie, that wasn’t cemented and probably will change now? We had a whole list of options lol
also Bella when you say sweet around adults but actually not, Alianna is like that so please make sure they’re different lol
@alpha
prob not too evil lol. he prob isn't any worse than the rest of them, at least not much... like i said, still in brainstorming. keeping him from being too evil shouldn't be a prob...i'd say he was a bully, and he also likes to cause chaos. btw, what about their parents? what are they like? i was thinking he would be protective of his friends anyway, so def of his sister. but anyway, if it doesn't work, that's fine
✧.*elizabeth✧.* wrote: " also Bella when you say sweet around adults but actually not, Alianna is like that so please make sure they’re different lol"i will. hmmm... i guess i could always make him not so sweet, but, idk... but yeah, they should be dif enough. although, his just being kinda crazy is always an option too... but, idk, i just... hmmm... but dw, either way, i'll make sure he's not the same as her.
✧Bella✧ wrote: "✧.*elizabeth✧.* wrote: " also Bella when you say sweet around adults but actually not, Alianna is like that so please make sure they’re different lol"i will. hmmm... i guess i could always mak..."
thanks. i just have a heightened anxiety the last few days that characters are getting too similar again
@Bella -
So the parents from my build are like an arranged marriage that didn't fall apart. It's kinda one of those ones where it was arranged and then they fell in love. Their dad is a sucker for anything that their mother says. That's a thing I know for sure.
When it comes to the parents and kids, their father shows clear favoritism to the boys. He ignores Melody except for when he disciplines her or is arranging her into a marriage. The boys get much more attention from him. They have good conversations and stuff while he makes sure the boys act in ways that will uphold the family name. When it comes to boys and mom, I think they know she sees Melody as her first priority because they're father doesn't care for Melody. They can interpret that as they wish, but their mother isn't like love one and ignore the rest. She bonds with all four and makes sure they are all healthy and okay.
Holy shit! A healthy family environment? How could I possibly XD
@alpha
well, i wasn't originally seeing him as being from a healthy family environment, but that could work.not that i would call that the healthiesthmmm...
see, this is the fc i had in mind:
so, um, looks kinda innocent, right? XD
I mean I think Isley and Alianna still have a brother claim open for calicos, and that’s a shitshow ish over there so idk
wait... they have a brother? how did i not know this?
Yes!! My idea was for a younger brother XD or like, a middle brother. Or someone younger than Alianna
Bc Eadric favors his daughters lol
XD kinda
But then he’d have to be like older or younger than 18 bc Isley is 18
Okay, maybe not the healthiest. But at least they communicate and aren't actively trying to murder each other. Let's just forget about the disowned cousin and we'll be fine.
✧.*elizabeth✧.* wrote: " XD kinda But then he’d have to be like older or younger than 18 bc Isley is 18"
oh, yeah, that's a problem... i guess one year difference could work... although, if he's a year older, that would make him the heir... oh dang. also... isn't the mom homophobic? and obviously, allianna is. here come more issues...
Alpha : ♡ New Year New Me ♡ wrote: "Okay, maybe not the healthiest. But at least they communicate and aren't actively trying to murder each other. Let's just forget about the disowned cousin and we'll be fine.
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yeah, lol, i mean, they're def healthier than the delacroixs at least. XD
✧Bella✧ wrote: "✧.*elizabeth✧.* wrote: " XD kinda But then he’d have to be like older or younger than 18 bc Isley is 18"
oh, yeah, that's a problem... i guess one year difference could work... although, if he's..."
uh only the heir when Alianna left yeah XD
UNLESS
Literally Eadric goes “not you, Isley” and had her be the heir and passes over the brother
Or hey you could see if Isley could have a twin lol and then someone else makes the younger brother
OH UH
YEAH SHE IS
Right
Alianna is yeah (poor Elliot)
i... wow, WOULD EADRIC DO THAT? oh my, at this point, he might end up teaming up with alianna if she ever decides to take out their dad. sheesh
yeah, twin is possible, i might discuss that with her. than he, and her, and draven would all be in the same class... they're like the heathers! jk lol
ok, well, Alex that's his name, btw is queer, so, um... that's nice.
MAYBE?? Like. He loves whatever sons he will have. but his favorites are his daughters because he loved his sister before she died and wants to protect them the way he feels he failed to protect her, and because he just...wanted daughters? to spoil? idk. so maybe he would lol, especially if he thinks that alex is a tad irresponsible
oops xd
okay!
um. yeah. very nice for poor alex
(other option, eadric did sleep around, so, uh, who knows, alex could even be someone elses kid and not the moms. like, hes in love with a man right now but before that he did on occasion sleep around)
and these are all options if you even wanted to place him in the family! you dont have to, just an offer <3
oh, wow, i'm um, loving all these options. i do think he's a tad irresponsible so, yeah... that last one is interesting... but then wouldn't he be, like, not raised as a calico, or..?
okay yeah, if he's a little irresponsible, eadric would be agitated, like, the man is a bit of a problem when it comes to alcohol and playing favorites and not exactly being faithful to his wife, and yknow, he's classist, but. he does love his son? even though he very well may pass over him for wanting to keep the best image possible of a very wealthy and old noble family and thus giving it to isley? who is a tad naive, but he could work with that lol
um. he would be, I think? but its possible the wife dislikes him? i could see eadric being less keen on alex if that was the case (as if it wasnt his fault), but that could be another reason he passes over him for isley when alianna leavs (yknow, pure noble bloodline and yadda yadda)
yeah... yk... that makes a lot of sense if only draven can get enough over his classism to be friends with him lol and, yk, if they have dif mothers, he could very well still be 18... i like this idea
yeah... maybe it was another noble then, but not a calico, so he'd still be of noble blood but not pure calico line? exactly! and then alianna would also dislike him even more 😈
that woman hates everyone though, so, wooo
illegitimate calico it is! the scandal! the drama! sheesh, she's got far too many reasons to hate poor alex... yeah, his mom could be a commoner, it would be fine, BUT, her being a noble would honestly add to the scandal... hmmm, i wonder if he KNOWS his mom...
hehehe I love giving eadric illegitimate kids in like every group it just adds drama and its beautiful. she does, but again, she hates everyone except maybe isley right now, except she does want her "throne" back, but alas, she ran off. and yeah, it could, because YEAH THEN HE MAY KNOW HIS MOM so
his mom being noble would make him less likely to get written off the line of succession, if you will, but, i mean, he's still illegitimate so... I WONDER WHAT HIS MOM'S LIKE.
very true. eadric would chafe placing anyone with commoner blood as the calico heir, hence why he and katarina drifted apart as friends. hes quite a classist ass. and YOUR CALL!! I can work with anything, I havent even made eadric wife yet lol.
i can't quite decide on whether his mom should be a commoner or a noble lol. hmm...
your call! I do think, eadric would be more likely to have affairs with other nobles, but I could try and work something out if you didnt want his mom to be noble
Wait so Bella can we talk about the assistant/probably delete our confusion on the other thread oops
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just a reminder that nobody is copying your characters, elizabeth. i understand anxiety, i do, but it also makes everyone else anxious when one character idea is brought up and we're afraid you're going to get upset over one similarity. there are only so many character traits/ideas in this world, we'd have issues if there were blatant copies but a simple "innocent around adults but really not" can apply to so, so many characters
I know. I just get so freaked out about it way too easily and idk how to not, I guess? I don’t know. I’m sorry. I don’t want to freak people out either so I’m sorry
✧.*elizabeth✧.* wrote: "Wait so Bella can we talk about the assistant/probably delete our confusion on the other thread oops"yeah. :) i deleted my comments there. so, did you have any thoughts?
also, on the topic of the calico thing, i was just thinking, if Alex's mother was a noble, would it be more likely for him to be considered part of her house, not the calicos? although i guess it all depends
hmm. Do you want me to link my teachers profile?
Oh yeah! Honestly I’m not sure that’s actually a very good question…probably does depend on a lot…good point…
i did read through it earlier, but i'm trying to figure out how exactly they would get along. he seems nice, so there shouldn't be any issues, but idk what exactly their dynamic would be, or if they would necessarily be friends, or just coworkers.
yeah, like, if she was also married at the time, i feel like the best way to cover up the scandal would just be to pretend he was her husband's son. of course, there's the question of said husband... and then, there's also the possibility that she wasn't married...
right…me neither. I mean we could have them just be co workers to simplify things? But I don’t know. How long as she been the assistant?
Right…that’s very true. And in both cases maybe shed have the kid be raised by Eadric then…? I don’t know
I'm actually pretty flexible on how long she's had the job.yeah, I guess that would prob be howl it would work, either if she was unmarried, or if her husband just refused to the ruse.
okay. Hmm. Okay let’s think on this XD I may have to go refresh myself with Andrew’s profile lol
Wait if her husband refused it though, that’d mean he would basically say “I know the truth and we’re not raising the kid”
lolyeah, idk. or maybe.. idk of course, she might not have been married. *shrugs*
or, she could be married, and her husband not know the truth, but then Alex would have been raised in their house, and would be even know the truth?
exactly, the rest of the conversation is the cause of some confusion...