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kk! here is fine if you wanted since we started it here haha. and yeah I think so. so alianna probably hasn't told her where the runalithe base is to keep up her cover for the crew, but she does aim to cause havoc, let them get some of their magic, and then she probably wants to kill the whole crew after honestly
and she also wouldn't mind sharing targets with esmeralda, and vice versa, but she ultimately is out for revenge against her father, cal, and honestly, i could see her wanting to take elliot down simply bc he's...well, she doesnt like him, either lol
here works. so, yeah, that makes sense. very interesting, very interesting.
so, yeah, that would go well for both of them. except... well, Esmeralda is horrible, but idk if she'd be on board with all of that. Cal, fine, Eadric, nah. As for Elliot... but Alianna prob wouldn't share about any of that, right? Anyway, the fact that he's investigating the murders her crew is responsible for only adds to her reasons to go after him...
yessss
aha. yeah. bc eadric is her brother, that makes sense, like I know they dont get along but, still.
I think she's just angry with her father because, well, I don't know, feels he should have rigged council somehow? to let her on? and also she wants to be the head of the house and almost blames him even though she ran off on her own. I don't remember if he even discovered her wrongdoings yet, I don't think so, he was still in denial lol
And then she hates cal, was always hating her bc she got the councilo spot but also bc shes not noble blood, and so alianna was always abusive, cruel, bullying, etc, towards her, and wants her dead. also bc, well, shes a militia captain and alianna is now a runalithe member
and elliot, YES absolutely, maybe we do a scene where she sees him investigating and like, realizes he has to go as well. she never liked her cousin bc he was gay and bc of the pranks, as alianna is an asshat, but this would make him a target. she probably wants him, the other investigator, and both haydens dead since they run the militia
yeah, esmeralda would not be behind the killing eadric thing, so allianna would have to not tell her about that.
she would be fine with killing off cal tho. since she's not noble blood, esmeralda sees her unworthy of being the hayden heir, or even a councilor, so yeah, she would have no problem with that.
YES, we should. And yeah, that would make total sense. Also, fun fact, I don't think Elliot's family even knows that he's an investigator.
Got it. And honestly Eadric is the least of Alianna’s personal priorities right now anyway so she would keep this to herself, probably knowing Esmeralda wouldn’t like that and not wanting to risk her telling Eadric his daughters out there somewhere murdering people
Okay yeah, makes sense. So Alianna’s probably using Esmeralda to keep tabs on her then, and oh fair point about the heir thing.
YAY!! Yep. And that’s okay! Alianna then would probably tell Esmeralda when she sees him? Or she’d keep that to herself and go after him in secret once she finds out he’s working for the Hayden’s and actively against the runalithe crew
yeah. alright, gotcha. but, yeah, i just don't think esmeralda would be down for that.
yes, she would keep tabs on cal for her.
NICE. Yeah, I guess it would depend on what you think would be most in character for her. I'm not sure how exactly Esmeralda would react to finding out...
makes sense! Maybe Alianna knows that and so she doesn’t tell her. That said, if for some reason Esmeralda does try and make her marry draven later on, she’s probably wanting to eventually take draven out too simply bc she’s power hungry and wouldn’t mind becoming the head of the calico and Delacroix households lol
Okay great! I think Alianna wants to drain both Elliot and cal of magic when she gets to that point, just to keep up the pretense for runalithe, but at the same time if it doesn’t work out, all that matters to her is that her cousin and the Haydens die even if it’s not drained via magic
WOOOOO WICKED PLANS!! Okay yeah. Hmm. She’d probably see him when she’s in Asterath or something when Elliot’s down there and like, realize she has to add Elliot to a kill list too. Not that she cares, she’s never liked him
yeah, sounds good. speaking of which, should esmeralda try to get them to marry? i feel like she would, but at the same time, if she suspected alinanna's true plans, she'd prob go another route.
makes sense. i still have no idea how they're doing that, actually lol
sounds good.
right….okay I’m not so sure. Because on one hand maybe she and Eadric had planned for Draven and Alianna to marry if all else failed one day? Okay ideally. Eadric would have wanted one of his kids to marry Katarina’s kids, but as kat only had one and she’s not blood related, then Eadric would absolutely not consider that anymore bc he’s classist and refuses. So maybe out of desperation he wanted Alianna to marry Draven? I don’t know
Yeah. I mean same
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yeah, maybe. I really don't know. yeah that sounds about right. the question is whether Esmeralda broaches the idea to alianna later on, or not, since she ran away.they've got some sort of technology...
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@Elizabeth, BellaHi! I posted what I've gotten worked up so far for the Calico daughter in the workshop. I finally was able to work out her personality enough to write it up. She sort of strayed away a little from my original vision for her
@Snail I love her. And she and Draven are gonna be so fun together. Platonic soulmates?
Thank you! I think platonic soulmates would be so fun! I was aiming for that sort of dynamic when I was working on her yay :DI’m assuming they have probably known each other since childhood considering they’re cousins?
Yay! The grumpy and sunshine is perfect.Yeah, they would have.
As far as I can see right now she’s fine! I think Alianna won’t like how peppy and whimsical she is? But she won’t see her as a threat growing up. However, ever since running away, I think Alianna knows that means her sister will now become head of the house after their father which she really can’t stomach so maybe she wants to take her down now XD As for Eadric, he would love her! And give her whatever she wants and finds her attitude charming honestly
Sheesh, Alianna has a vendetta against everyone lol.
Hey, I said *maybe* lolBut yeah Alianna is a b
And sadistic
And cruel
OH but she did probably try and hide her nasty behavior around Izzy! She does pretend tor the public and teachers that she’s the perfect noble, gracious and rich and kind, and sweet and generous but like yknow, she’s not. Eadric wouldn’t listen to most people if they told him the truth
speaking of which... draven somehow finds out Alianna is targeting Elliot, and warns him?
Unsure how Draven would find out though is the thingBecause she won’t tell Esmeralda, just in case
yeah, idk. I guess maybe he wouldn't... but who knows.
@Elizabeth,Oh no, I hadn't thought about Izzy being the next heir lol. She's going to hate that too. Her whole life has been spent being content with her lack of responsibility and not having to be in charge of anything because Alianna was older. She'd be so happy if Alianna came back because she absolutely does not want to be the next Calico house leader omg. She enjoys her frivolous lifestyle too much to want to give it up to be reliable and responsible; I'm dying laughing right now.
I think she probably has a blind spot where her sister is concerned and thinks of her as this perfect, saintly person, especially if Alianna was hiding her cruelty from her.
@Bella,
Glad you like how she turned out! I'm thinking she probably always tried to drag Draven into all her shenanigans and hare-brained ideas when they were growing up, but I don't know how successful she would have been at that haha.
What kind of relationship do you think she'd have with the other Delacroix family members, Elliot and Esmeralda? I'm outlining ideas for her history, so I'm trying to figure out how well she does or doesn't get along with the rest of her extended family.
@snail I was figuring that as well, lol. As for how successful... prob not TOO successful, but... also yes. I guess it was different for different situations Idk. I feel like Esmeralda might have been more or less indifferent? She doesn't really like kids as a general rule, so she prob didn't have much to do with her. As for Elliot, I'm thinking maybe they were a little closer when they were younger, and he and Draven were still close, but he had his own friends, do they prob didn't spend too much time together?
Snail—That’s great XD I honestly like where this is heading lol the whole thing is funny in a way, but also I think it’s good!
@Bella - Is the arranged marriage thing still a maybe or do you have a decisive yes or no?
@alpha it's still a maybe just now, sorry. I'll try to give you a definite answer soon.
@Bella,Okay yeah, that makes sense. She probably tried to include him in things a lot even if he turned her down or was too busy. She lets rejection roll right off her back, so even though he usually doesn’t go along with whatever silly adventure she has planned out, she’d still invite him on the regular anyway lol.
I think she’d really like Elliot when they were kids. Maybe they had like a surrogate older brother - annoying little sister relationship? Then yeah, they probably drifted apart once they got older and he had his own friends and stuff.
As far as current time goes, now that Izzy is 18, is her and Esmeralda’s relationship any different from when she was little or is Esmeralda still indifferent towards her?
@Elizabeth,
Me too! I can’t wait to finish her and get her approved :D
@snail
yeah, that sounds about right. and, honestly, that sort of persistence is the only way she'd prob ever get him to go along lol. i feel like, sometimes, when he really needed a break, he would join her.
yeah, that sounds good for her and elliot. they would have drifted apart, because he got different freinds, and started spending less time even with draven, so since she and draven are so close, when the brothers drifted apart, elliot and izzy prob did as well, except, maybe even more so..? idk
idk, i feel like she's still sorta indifferent, but she also wants to keep an eye on her since she and draven are so close. i feel like she wouldn't like her all that much.
@Bella,Gotcha! Draven is probably one of the only (if not the only) person she’d try to be still and just chill with every now and then if it meant they got to spend time together.
Yeah I think that sounds right for her and Elliot. She probably misses him and wishes they hadn’t drifted so far apart though.
I think the feeling is probably mutual there. I don’t think Izzy is too keen on Esmeralda either, so she’ll mostly just avoid her if possible.
@snail
yeah, and i feel like izzy's prob one of the only (prob only, now that elliot's gone) person that would be able to get him to do.. whatever it is she gets him to do lol. also, make him smile, which he needs.
yeah, sounds good.
yeah, that's prob best for all concerned lol.
@Bella,Aww, she will definitely do her best to make him smile!
I think that answers all the questions I had for now. I’ll pop back on here if I think of anything else.
just hit me Eadric is Draven and Elliot’s uncle
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Right
Okay. Probably loves them and sends gifts and stuff but the man loves his daughters more lol. Elliot has probably agitated him in the past, but he’s probably a bit worried about Draven given he’s wary of his sister Esmeralda. Like they’re similar but different? Idk. I don’t think he approves of Esmeralda disowning Elliot, though he was probably not a fan of Elliot’s pranks
oh wow, why did i never think of that..?
that makes sense. now i've gotta work out their side of it, um...
okay, so, uh, elliot obvs doesn't have the best opinion of him, as for draven... idk. what WOULD their relationship look like?
clearly, neither did I xd
understandable. Idk...can you give me a rundown of draven?
take your time lol its fine, honestly i should just go read his profile oops
alright, so... draven.
he's not really a people-person. kinda sarcastic, condescending, also... dramatic.XD he's sort of a mama's boy, in that he's always trying to make his mother proud, and basically does anything she tells him to. he doesn't necessarily always actually agree with her, but he tends to gaslight himself into thinking he does, if that makes any sense. he's actually kinda shy, and prob an infj, if we're gonna talk mbtis. he tends to come across as cold and, well, not the nicest person lol. he doesn't do what he wants, he does what he feels like he has to for the family, and just... tells himself it's what he wanst. like, when elliot suggested they run away together, he actually wanted to conflicted feelings, but still, but he knew their parents would have tracked them down, because one of them had to be the heir. he's also got a bunch of mental health issues, but that's nothing new for our rp characters, right?
Gotcha. Okay, thank you! Hmm. I think Eadric probably both respects and dislikes Draven. Because while Eadric is like, similar to Esmeralda, I think he’s wary of his sister as well because he knows she disliked some of his choices, and he probably isn’t a fan of Draven doing whatever Esmeralda says. That being said, he probably also approves of Draven being a harsher head of the house one day, and like, a responsible person at least from the outside?
alright, that makes sense. hmm... i guess it would prob be a similar feeling on both sides. idk for sure. like, eadric IS similar to esmeralda, so there's that, but, hmm... is eadric like, known to be an alcoholic, and how exactly is that perceived, if so?
ah, right. well. honestly, I'm not sure. among some of the noble houses, yes, like the haydens know because katarina was once very close to him, and I presume esmeralda knows honestly, that he struggles with wine and stuff? but beyond that, probably not unless somehow others found out.
He did used to be on council, and he probably always had a glass of wine with him though
alright then. i was just thinking, draven wouldn't really like his uncle having a bad reputation, in that way. as if i haven't considered draven might have some sort of potion addiction...
makes sense. who knows then, maybe some others do know. okay but that could be interesting
just wanna add more, do we?
i always like adding more character pain and problems, its me we're talking about xd besides, you get it lol
yeah, I get it lol. hence the potion idea...
lol yeah
btw, since cole and elliot are leaving the market at the end of what we're writing, at what point did you want to move them and/or end the roleplay? (not saying i want to, just bc we're at the point with the last paragraph where we should talk about next steps!)
yeah, i was wondering about that. if we're moving it, i guess it would be to the night riders base? but, should I do one more post at the potion night market, or... when exactly would we end/move it?
probably? though I don't know the layout of it but I guess thats probably okay. and yeah, maybe? see, because the rest of their conversation isn't done, is my only worry
I can discuss either place
yeah, I feel like they would still be in touch. and then, I believe we were planning for her to be like in on alianna's murder spree thing. so, I guess it sort of depends on alianna's plans, as well as how much Esmeralda knows.