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The Diversion / The Ultimate / The Absolute / The Sacrifice (Animorphs #49-52)[January 1, 2025]
Is this the finale? Or one more after... I mean, I could just look at the schedule, but I'm feeling lazy.
#49 The Diversion Huh, so I knew Michael Crouch was a familiar name, but I only just figured out that he narrated Rick Riordan's Magnus Chase books. (view spoiler)
Tobias's family gets retconned like 50x in the series... it's one of the more commented things online, since basically Tobias didn't know what happened to his parents, and I think the convenient storytelling thing is he just told a convenient lie to cover how little he knew...
LOL I wasn't even thinking about that--I mean, he's an orphan in a shitty situation. Of course he's going to have a lot of stories about who his parents really were.... But I always thought, (view spoiler)
We've discussed this a bit in the past, regarding possible plotholes and how the morphing technology works, but honestly...
The simplest headcanon that explains how morphing technology works, is that expectations shape the morphing process... it explains all Cassie's super abilities as the child of a veterinarian with better understanding of animal biology and less fear of the process causing random things to balloon out first... elegant...
It explains why haircuts aren't reverted, but injuries are...
It explains why Tobias' human version of himself morph isn't stuck at the age he acquired it, and instead slowly grows as he ages up...
It explains why the above thing with Tobias is possible, and when they morph humans (on rare occasions), they turn into them at the age of acquiring and not a middle school / high school aged version (since DNA is DNA after all, and may as well work that way, with other peculiarities)...
And probably explains anything else I'm forgetting, or is tacked on in the future as a plothole...
Not sure how to explain things like the allergy/etc... but this explains more than most...
The simplest headcanon that explains how morphing technology works, is that expectations shape the morphing process... it explains all Cassie's super abilities as the child of a veterinarian with better understanding of animal biology and less fear of the process causing random things to balloon out first... elegant...
It explains why haircuts aren't reverted, but injuries are...
It explains why Tobias' human version of himself morph isn't stuck at the age he acquired it, and instead slowly grows as he ages up...
It explains why the above thing with Tobias is possible, and when they morph humans (on rare occasions), they turn into them at the age of acquiring and not a middle school / high school aged version (since DNA is DNA after all, and may as well work that way, with other peculiarities)...
And probably explains anything else I'm forgetting, or is tacked on in the future as a plothole...
Not sure how to explain things like the allergy/etc... but this explains more than most...
And finished... I knew this was coming, from all the spoilers I've read, but it was still a super dramatic book we've been waiting for for a long time... (view spoiler)
Timelord Iain wrote: "We've discussed this a bit in the past, regarding possible plotholes and how the morphing technology works, but honestly...The simplest headcanon that explains how morphing technology works, is t..."
I like this explanation.. Works for a lot of things.
One thing that always confused me was in the dinosaur book when Tobias wasn't healed when he morphed out of his hawk and then back to his hawk? I was pretty sure in other instances when they were injured as their normal self, if they morphed to something and then back they were healed...
They were... plot inconsistency...
The books are honestly riddled with them... luckily, we miss most of them... they're all noted on the wiki...
Alot of the mistakes involve describing people as being morphed into the wrong type of bird, or using thought speak in human form, or forgetting who is and isn't morphed...
One of the worst ones was Cassie's barn suddenly having internet access when the early books said it didn't...
The books are honestly riddled with them... luckily, we miss most of them... they're all noted on the wiki...
Alot of the mistakes involve describing people as being morphed into the wrong type of bird, or using thought speak in human form, or forgetting who is and isn't morphed...
One of the worst ones was Cassie's barn suddenly having internet access when the early books said it didn't...
Most mistakes, especially past book 15-20, is because of all the ghostwriters... Applegate & her husband were just writing the outlines and assigning them to ghostwriters, and hopefully doing an editing pass at the end... which is what made it possible to release a book every month for 4-5 years...
Timelord Iain wrote: "We've discussed this a bit in the past, regarding possible plotholes and how the morphing technology works, but honestly...The simplest headcanon that explains how morphing technology works, is t..."
I had been thinking of it similar to Stormlight healing--so pretty much the same idea...
Interesting about the ghostwriters. And lol on the internet... back in the early 2000s late 90s that's a pretty big discrepancy. Like, was wireless even a thing yet?re: #49--Jake definitely drew the short stick...
Read #50 The Ultimate today, and I totally see what you're talking about with the Buffy comparison... (view spoiler)
#51: The Absolute: another great entry... very fast paced, now that the stakes are real and things change at the drop of a hat... (view spoiler)
Caught up on #49 and #50! love the momentum to an ending we've been having lately. These are two very plot heavy books... (view spoiler)
We’re 2 books from the double length finale at this point… rushing lots of developments / setup…
Nirkatze wrote: "Read #51 The Absolute today, and am rather sad that our little pet theory.."Yeah (view spoiler)
Tonari no Emily wrote: "Nirkatze wrote: "Read #51 The Absolute today, and am rather sad that our little pet theory.."Yeah [spoilers removed]"
That bothered me enough that it knocked a star off my review. Of every other real-life issue the author deals with with... and this was just dropped? For shame.
Nirkatze wrote: "Tonari no Emily wrote: "Nirkatze wrote: "Read #51 The Absolute today, and am rather sad that our little pet theory.."Yeah [spoilers removed]"
That bothered me enough that it knocked a star off m..."
Agreed!
Also agree... I feel like Nora was created because they ran out of mom plots, so they added a stepmom... but the second the plot was ready to move forward and de-Yeerk mop, Nora was discarded pretty callously, and ignored ever since...
Nora! That was her name. Thanks Iain. She really got done a dirty...Read #52 The Sacrifice yesterday, and agree about the (view spoiler)
On an unrelated note--did anyone else think that Ax's narrator was a bit off his game this one? Like, normally I'm so impressed with the Animorphs narrators, in that they do each of the other characters so well I usually don't even notice that we've switched narrators. But this one, I had a hard time telling who was talking as they all sounded like Ax.
I listened at work, pausing and playing alot... (view spoiler)
I dunno... that's all I got as explanation :D
I dunno... that's all I got as explanation :D
Kinda makes me want to go back and try some of the earlier Ax books, to see if it was this book specifically, the narrator in general, if I was just paying more attention...
Even with Nirkatze's comment about the narration, I don't think i really noticed a difference in the narration from other Ax books.. I think the other narrators might just be a bit better at differentiating voices than the narrator for Ax... And there's not as many Ax books as there are the other kids
Nirkatze wrote: "Nora! That was her name. Thanks Iain. She really got done a dirty...Read #52 The Sacrifice yesterday, and agree about the challenges Ax faced with his moral compass. He's struggled with that thro..."
I would have like to see (view spoiler)
Jake's the next book... then the final book is more like a Megamorph book with all POVs, I think...
Timelord Iain wrote: "Right?... so many books read... I'm glad you guys joined me..."I'm glad you suggested it! Would've missed out on this classic. Totally recommending this series to my friends with middle-grade kids...
I am trying to catch up... The last two books before The Diversion were a couple of the best so far! I have two questions though... (view spoiler) I can't lie, both of those made me really sad and even some tears were shed...




Happy Reading!