Never Never by Colleen Hoover → Start Date: May 2nd, 2015

[Clementine]

Please feel free to join Evergracefully and me. :)

[Clementine]

Chapter 2: (view spoiler)[I really like this quote: "I'll grasp any piece of her that might convince me I'm not losing my mind." I'm kind of confused about what may make two persons lose their memory... I'm trying not to get all neuro and scientific about the probability of their situation. I'm really trying lol. :P (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

Hey Clementine! is it okay if I jump in here?? I'd like to read this one too!!

[Clementine]

Sure, please do jump in here! :) Evergracefully messaged me to tell me she will join us shortly. ^_^

[V. A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but Goodreads editors won't tell you to include it in the choice awards]

I always say that I can trust Colleen Hoover to break my heart to pieces only to later rebuilt it all new. I trust this woman with my feelings.

[Clementine]

I'm currently reading chapter 5: I like it so far, but some things written in Silas' POV are just too cheesy for my taste. I just needed to say it. :P

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

Clementine wrote: "I'm currently reading chapter 5: I like it so far, but some things written in Silas' POV are just too cheesy for my taste. I just needed to say it. :P"

lol! I'm start now! I can't wait to post (and read the cheese! HA!)

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

alright based on some high lights....looks like I should keep track of people

chapter 1
Charlie(view spoiler)[ is our main character. sounds like she's a trouble maker.
dating Silas? they seem awkward though. (hide spoiler)]

Annika(view spoiler)[ best friend? (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

Chapter 2

Silas (view spoiler)[ boyfriend of Charlie
HA! he's got the same thing! He doesn't know her?! Holy crap! (hide spoiler)]

Friday night(view spoiler)[ certainly seems like most of the school is mad at them for something they did....possibly over the weekend??? (hide spoiler)]

[Clementine]

@Trisha: Hahaha, cheese is sometimes good but the whole: "I'm lost in her" had me rolling my eyes. :P

Regarding your spoilers: (view spoiler)[It will make more sense once Silas' POV is introduced but yes they are supposed to be dating... I did get the same 'awkward' vibe as you did because as I read on it made less and less sense that they are actually dating. You will understand what I mean once you get to chapters 5 and 10. (hide spoiler)]

[Clementine]

Trisha wrote: "Chapter 2

Silas boyfriend of Charlie
HA! he's got the same thing! He doesn't know her?! Holy crap!

Friday night[spoilers removed]"

Friday night: (view spoiler)[I thought that too! They don't seem popular yet everyone is ALWAYS staring at them. XD (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

chapter 3

okay so more hints!

Brother(view spoiler)[ alright, we've got a little brother...and possibly happy but growing unhappy parents(view spoiler)[

and (view spoiler)[ skimpy halloween evil & good matching costumes (hide spoiler)]

and Silas Nash(view spoiler)[ he has odd photos and they think he might do that as a hobby

but why the calluses?? from football and weight lifting? (hide spoiler)]

hmmmmmmmm

they are still cute, not cheesy yet! LOL (hide spoiler)] (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

ch 4

holy moly (view spoiler)[ their parents...are in business together??
Wynwood (her) Nash (him) financial group is on the pen! (hide spoiler)]

hands(view spoiler)[ he's left handed
but the bloody print is right handed. Might mean something, might mean nothing (hide spoiler)]

and just because(view spoiler)[
in order, what he noted as he turned:
1. dirt on my sheets
2. blood-smeared handprint

could me everything
3. remember basics but not people
4. clothes I'm wearing
5. color of her nail polish (red)
6. camera on my desk
7. photos on the wall:
a. homeless man against a wall with a blanket
b. woman sitting on a bench crying into her hands
c. a gypsy with a hand around her own throat (empty eyes)
8. the clock above my door
9. half-empty glass of water on the desk (hide spoiler)]

dads (view spoiler)[ ut oh. we now find out the families are feuding - maybe over the company?? (hide spoiler)]

phones(view spoiler)[ OMG I've been dying for them to find their phones!! GO THROUGH PHOTOS ALREADY!!! OMG!! lol
and seriously, check social media. Their weekend issues HAVE to be on there!! (hide spoiler)]

[Clementine]

LOL, Trisha, we had the same instinct about the phones ;)

I just finished it: (view spoiler)[This is SO frustrating! I dearly hope there is a spark (or two) of paranormal in there otherwise, I will go wild and snarling at the way this book got amnesia wrong. (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

chapter 5

mom (view spoiler)[ Yikes, they sound like they live in a house that is no longer "nice" but still have nice expensive "things"
and her mom cried into her hands - like the one photo. means nothing, means something? lol (hide spoiler)]

Amy(view spoiler)[ sent text "where are you" (hide spoiler)]

Brian(view spoiler)[ text "missed you today. Did you tell him?"
ut oh....REALLY bad
tell "him" who?? (hide spoiler)]

Charlie(view spoiler)[ is impatient and manipulative.
yikes. (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

ack!!! I'm not done yet!! Dying to click your spoiler tho :)

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

oh no....just 3 stars??? Did you like it? plan to read the next one?

[Clementine]

I flew right through it... The writing style is sooo addictive. :P

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

chapter 6

Charlie (view spoiler)[ changed clothing?
to a skirt and black scarf? Why didn't she note she changed?
is she an unreliable narrator? (hide spoiler)]

hands(view spoiler)[ wrapped around throat - Brian (like photo?)
(hide spoiler)]

dad(view spoiler)[ Yikes. charlie's dad is in for 10 - 15.
is that manslaughter?
or embezzling? fraud? (hide spoiler)]

Do not delete(view spoiler)[ huh. I wonder why THAT video is marked do not delete (hide spoiler)]

Andrew(view spoiler)[ Annika was headed to his house
I wonder who he is (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

Clementine wrote: "I flew right through it... The writing style is sooo addictive. :P"

it is addicting and so easy to read. lol
I'm picking it apart though, looking for clues!! :)

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

ch 7

Dover(view spoiler)[ who's this guy?
and he wasn't implying he was her boyfriend too, was he? why did he call her that name?

and why did he say "you might have liked it here if Silas hadn't ruined it for you"

um...what was she doing there?? (hide spoiler)]

[Vicki]

I love reading your posts on this thread. I read this one solo and I was SO FRUSTRATED with the ending. I can't wait to see what you think of the end, Trisha.

[Vicki]

Clementine wrote: "LOL, Trisha, we had the same instinct about the phones ;)

I just finished it: [spoilers removed]"

I felt EXACTLY the same and normally (view spoiler)[I don't mind cliffhangers, even though they can drive me crazy, but this ending for me was totally WTH??? LOL (hide spoiler)]

I'm so ready for book 2!

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

I've just pre-ordered book 2.
I'm not done with this one yet but seriously

why is there only one arm in the water
and why does the other side look like there's....blood in the water :(


looks like we'll need to ALL Buddy read it!! :)


OH and Vicki, I just got
wanna buddy read??

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

chapter 10

ahh maybe this book is just coming at the right time (view spoiler)[ but I'm loving the cheese!! LOL
I Love that he wants to love her again and he wants her to love him. I can't imagine how hard it would be to wake up and know no one but know one person is there with you. and that there used to be something between you. It's true, it just feels like you want to root for them (hide spoiler)]

I'm wondering(view spoiler)[ if their "we're not really together" was a lie. I wonder if they cheated and agreed to not see each other to throw everyone off.

what if THEY were the ones that stole the money that got her dad put away
I wonder if they planned to run away together.
The photos seem like documented proof.
but why do they have no memory (hide spoiler)]hmmmmmmm......

[Vicki]

Trisha wrote: "I've just pre-ordered book 2.
I'm not done with this one yet but seriously

why is there only one arm in the water
and why does the other side look like there's....blood in the water :(

[bookcover..."

YES! :o) When were you thinking?

[Vicki]

Trisha wrote: "chapter 10

ahh maybe this book is just coming at the right time but I'm loving the cheese!! LOL
I Love that he wants to love her again and he wants her to love him. I can't imagine how hard it wo..."

I must admit that when I was reading this I hadn't thought about the possibility that (view spoiler)[they'd stolen the money. (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

and if they don't (view spoiler)[ starting following the trail of photos, I'm going to smack one of them! LOL

Place ONE should be the ONLY photo in her room!!!! UGH! This is killing me (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

Vicki wrote: "Trisha wrote: "I've just pre-ordered book 2.
I'm not done with this one yet but seriously

why is there only one arm in the water
and why does the other side look like there's....blood in the water..."

anytime!!!

[Vicki]

How about next Monday, May 11?

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

perfect!! are you okay to make the thread??

I'm going to read more! LOL almost done!!

[Vicki]

Yes, I'll make it.

[Vicki]

Here you go, Trisha... https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

and I"m done! Ha! I'm totally good with the end.
I really liked where it ended. I like that I feel like we at least have an answer or two

NOW we know(view spoiler)[ why there were love letters and photos in the attic
did you catch that there was a photo of her bare shoulder (where the tattoo is maybe?)

and we know that this has happened more than once and they don't know why. (hide spoiler)]

Do you guys(view spoiler)[ have any guesses???

sounds like....they were possibly experimented on or maybe they are time traveling? no, probably not time traveling....

why would someone want them to forget?
or why would they forget?
I still go back to the missing money
and the fact that they dreamed about running away together
(hide spoiler)]

gate(view spoiler)[ I can't help but think that she went back to that gate and tried to figure out what it meant (hide spoiler)]

I'm dying to see what you guys think!! LOL

[Clementine]

Trisha wrote: "and I"m done! Ha! I'm totally good with the end.
I really liked where it ended. I like that I feel like we at least have an answer or two

NOW we know ..."

Some of their decisions made me want to smack their heads together. Why is it that they didn't (view spoiler)[go to the hospital?? We have tons of patients who show up and have no idea who they are or what they have been doing in the last couple of hours. They are scared and confused and we evaluate them. No biggie. Amnesic patients aren't sent to the psych ward, for god's sakes. They could be walking around with brain trauma! Maybe it's because it's my field but I don't understand why the "let's go to the hospital" thing was dismissed so carelessly. Amnesia is a medical condition. I hate when authors demonize hospitals. (hide spoiler)]

My hypothesis: (view spoiler)[I think Charlie may have been taken by Brian. It's either that or Amy and Andrew have something to do with it since Charlie was supposed to go back and ask them for a lift. As for the 'memory loss at 11 am', I'm hoping it's a paranormal twist. Maybe they made a spell to forget each other because their family was feuding and it went wrong? Maybe they forget each other again every time, they fall back in love...? At 11 am lol. Okay, I just needed to put it out there. :P If it's an experiment I will go on a very long rant why that is scientifically impossible. I don't think it's time travel either... I must admit I flirted with the idea of them having to fix something before 11 am in a time travel scenario. However time doesn't stop and rewind according to the letter so I think that means time travel is out. If they are aliens though, I will rage-quit, I swear. (hide spoiler)]

[Clementine]

@Vicki and Trisha: yesss! We should all buddy-read it once it comes out. *_*

About the missing hand: (view spoiler)[I think it's meant to show that Charlie's disappeared? I don't think CoHo and Fisher have it in them to kill off a main character, so I'm not too worried. ;) (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

OMG YES!! (view spoiler)[ My husband and I were both reeling at the fact they didn't go to the hospital! UGH! (hide spoiler)]

I didn't even(view spoiler)[ really think about the idea of aliens.
seriously, if it's aliens, I'm with you! I WILL NOT read book 3 and I will only finish book 2 out of sheer stubbornness. PLEASE don't let it be aliens! LOL (hide spoiler)]

[Vicki]

Oh my gosh, I'm cracking up! Trisha, what was that one book that we read about a tsunami in Hawaii and at one point we were both like, "WHAT? OH, HECK NO!" and it killed it for us? LOL This had better not be about aliens! Haha!

I kind of thought that possibly (view spoiler)[Amy and Andrew were involved, but I never got really strong feelings or predictions that I stuck with. LOL (hide spoiler)]

The missing had (view spoiler)[could be indicative of Charlie's disappearance, but I hadn't thought of that at all. (hide spoiler)]

It's a book, so that's why they didn't (view spoiler)[go to the hospital. LOL Of course, I had the same frustrating question! (hide spoiler)]

[Vicki]

Clementine wrote: "@Vicki and Trisha: yesss! We should all buddy-read it once it comes out. *_*

About the missing hand: [spoilers removed]"

Yes! I want to know what the heck happens! LOL

[Evergracefully]

Sorry i've not been active recently studies call :)
JUST FINISHED (view spoiler)[Can't believe the ending! So frustrated at the way it ended (hide spoiler)] But this book was surprisingly short though - i was so surprised when it ended!

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

Vicki wrote: "Oh my gosh, I'm cracking up! Trisha, what was that one book that we read about a tsunami in Hawaii and at one point we were both like, "WHAT? OH, HECK NO!" and it killed it for us? LOL This had bet..."

OMG that book was so awful. I still have people "liking" my review because they just read the book.

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

so theories

I love(view spoiler)[ the idea that Brian grabbed her. That makes so much sense. for some reason, I thought we saw him afterwards (at school or something) so I thought no...but that really is feasible. (hide spoiler)]

ooooh Vicki(view spoiler)[ I never even thought about Amy and Andrew being in on it
but that would make SO much sense. They seemed to be around every corner.....if you aren't thinking of them as just good friends, it really can look kind of sinister - like they wer keeping tabs and following them (hide spoiler)]

but (view spoiler)[ I still can't figure out the "how"
how would this happen, why would it suddenly happen....
(hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

Evergracefully wrote: "Sorry i've not been active recently studies call :)
JUST FINISHED [spoilers removed] But this book was surprisingly short though - i was so surprised when it ended!"

Yay Evergracefully, I'm glad you got it done even through studies! I know, it WAS short, I just kept a close eye on the % on my kindle because I knew it was going to end quickly and end on a cliffhanger. lol

You in for book 2 with us?

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

Now that everyone is done
should we set up book 2 buddy read???

[Clementine]

Trisha wrote: "so theories

I love[spoilers removed]"

You know what I thought about something... (view spoiler)[What if Charlie DID take the money and she was just an unreliable narrator? What if she disappeared with a bag of cash because leaving both your cellphone and your wallet behind... I don't know. She's either very stupid or very bright. (hide spoiler)]

[Clementine]

Trisha wrote: "Now that everyone is done
should we set up book 2 buddy read???"

It comes out on May 17th, so should we say beginning of June so that everyone had the chance to get a copy? :)

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

Clementine wrote: "Trisha wrote: "so theories

I love[spoilers removed]"

You know what I thought about something... [spoilers removed]"

oooh that's a good point
(view spoiler)[ I definitely think she stole the money
I just think they stole it together
and what ever has happened to them is blocking them from remembering they stole the money! LOL

Gah, I hope she isn't trying to skip town and run :(
but I do think she's not a totally reliable narrator..... (hide spoiler)]

[Trisha, lives on coffee]

Clementine wrote: "Trisha wrote: "Now that everyone is done
should we set up book 2 buddy read???"

It comes out on May 17th, so should we say beginning of June so that everyone had the chance to get a copy? :)"

I'm good with starting whenever!
I've pre-ordered the kindle version so I'll have it the day it releases.

[Vicki]

Trisha wrote: "Vicki wrote: "Oh my gosh, I'm cracking up! Trisha, what was that one book that we read about a tsunami in Hawaii and at one point we were both like, "WHAT? OH, HECK NO!" and it killed it for us? LO..."

LOL You are popular on here, girl. That book was so funny in a sad way. LOL

[Vicki]

I also think that (view spoiler)[they probably both stole the money. LOL But I am baffled and don't have any good ideas as to what the heck is going on. I had the same thought about her leaving behind her cellphone and wallet. That's too odd unless she was taken. (hide spoiler)]

I'm glad you two brought the notion of the (view spoiler)[unreliable narrator. That makes total sense and for some reason I hadn't even thought about that. (hide spoiler)]

I also pre-ordered by book way back in February so I'll have it when it comes out. I'm good for most any day.