At what point would you become sceptical that the recent tropical cyclones are no longer natural

[Kelly]

Twin tropical cyclones Lam (Category 4) and Marcia (Category 5) made landfall at almost exactly the same time. Lam battering areas in the Northern Territory and Marcia hitting parts of coastal and inland Queensland near Rockhampton and Yeppoon.

Then only a couple of weeks later twin tropical cyclones Olwyn and Nathan suddenly appeared. No one could predict what Nathan was going to do because it was extremely slow moving and just seemed to hang around the ocean as a lower category cyclone for days. At first they thought it might head towards Townsville. Then it moved towards Cape York and the Northern Territory and lasted a lot longer than expected and did more damage than expected. Olwyn on the other hand went straight down Western Australia.

Cyclone Pam didn't make it to us, and got to New Zealand as a Tropical Low.

A lot of places that have been hit/ expected to be hit by recent cyclones have military bases somewhere nearby (eg. Darwin, Townsville, Perth, Brisbane). Other than if an area like New South Wales was affected (which does not normally get hit by Cyclones), when would you become sceptical that these tropical cyclones are no longer natural?

[Laureen]

We all suffer from media overplay these days. When I was young, we only heard about weather events in our very local area. Now we get to here of catastrophes all over the world and it creates fear.

I am not saying that humans have nothing to do with the current climate change but I do question it. In the past we have had huge changes to the Earth due to volcanic explosions, rising sea levels, Islands sinking beneath the ocean, countries breaking away from the mainlands, the ice age, the age of dinosaurs, the greenhouse effect etc etc.

Now, I am fully aware that these ages happened over thousands of years and the current fear is that we are speeding up the process of change. I just have this feeling that there is a pattern that evolves into answers for our future as time goes bye.

However, we are the messiest house-keepers and need to get our house/planet in order. That does not mean throwing the baby out with the bath water.

[James, Group Founder]

Laureen wrote: "We all suffer from media overplay these days. When I was young, we only heard about weather events in our very local area. Now we get to here of catastrophes all over the world and it creates fea..."

I think possibly Kelly was implying top-secret weather modification technologies rather than man-made climate change, but correct me if I am misinterpreting your post, Kelly.

[Feliks]

What recent tropical cyclones?

Anyway yes I believe in climate change. When the world's scientists get together as they did a while ago and presented a unified-consensus paper to the UN, its time to listen.

[James, Group Founder]

Agreed. Climate Change is real...But there are other things going on too of course...